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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3745782
04/05/13 09:47 PM
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Well you get sum rope . get it around a leg opposite of the leg that is snared pull it tight .then play Rock Paper Scissors with your trapping partner to who is going in there to cut the snare.cut snare run like [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot].the rope we use is the flat stuff used to pull wire it will not tighten up on it self .then your partner drops the rope it will loosen up right away and fall off shortly . We had to do a large moose once it is nerve racking after that moose stop every thing.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3745800
04/05/13 09:56 PM
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No trapping partner.

I've never held a moose for more than a few seconds after I started using cut locks. Unless they get the snare around their nose they are usually free immediately.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3745825
04/05/13 10:10 PM
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Me and my partner ran different lines but meet up at cabin at night .if one does not come back we now were to look for them.long store short you can always pull it tight and tie it to a tree if available . then cut snare .in my case just go get partner .but we only ever got the one after that moose stops

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3745973
04/05/13 11:37 PM
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Just listen to the pros and cut the lock. I learned to never question what some of them tell me. Saves time and energy.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3745987
04/05/13 11:44 PM
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I do cut the locks but I also install the stop so that it will not cut into leg before it brakes .

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746006
04/06/13 12:01 AM
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How far from the cable end do you place the stop?

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746026
04/06/13 12:21 AM
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I know in the lower 48 they have to use them for deer in some places. It seems to make a lot of sense to me.
I know that some guys have had a lot of problems with large wolves getting the cut locks pulled through and getting away. That seems to be what I remember from Nooksack and Spec if I remember right.
The stop you have on seems allow a pretty large loop. Picture and my imagination may be deceiving. ;0)
Larger than what you would think a leg and hoof would need to get out. And not tighten down enough for a good choke out. Are you having them choke down well enough in the setup? What is the final sized loop after tightened up.
How come it hasn't been a method mentioned in Alaska Wolf snaring. Has to be some reason against it. But it sure seems to be working for you. That is a respectable number of wolves for sure.

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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746030
04/06/13 12:24 AM
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About 10 to 11 in makes about a 3.5 circle when closed will put wolf down pretty fast but big enough it fill not cut into moose leg.this year I caught 5 to 6 moose and they were all gone when I got there no blood so I assume they work . All wolves dead on arrival . On a another not has any body used the bridger #5 Alaskan .i know #9 are the way to go .it is getting them that hard just asking. I own 750 to

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746040
04/06/13 12:46 AM
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Yeah snaring animals must be a whole different ball game than trapping them I've never snared anything ever, my 11 year old knows more than me he snares rabbits.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746042
04/06/13 12:51 AM
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Well proof is in the pudding so they say. And I am never too old to learn a new trick. Not that I do anything with wolves, YET. ;0) But I will keep store this info for later use some day.
I had the notion to try something similar on lynx snares a few years back. I was tired of feeding fox my snared lynx for dinner so I put out a few snares with stops on them to see if I could keep a snared lynx alive. Never connected on one to find out.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746053
04/06/13 01:08 AM
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This is what I use on lynx and fox snares .if you use the crimp tool for them moose and caribou will break free . i get them at snare shop

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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746070
04/06/13 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: white17
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Priceless! Mine started helping pack firewood a couple weeks ago, can't wait to get him into the woods with a rifle!



Need to get him a 22 soon!



Holy cow ! that kid couldn't even mumble when I saw him last. Is he one you had in a closet or something ?


He's going on 19 months now! Yay for moose soup and lynx enchiladas!

Cool info on these wolf snares!


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746074
04/06/13 02:00 AM
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Thanks! Good to know. I'm switching all my gear out this year. Going with all BADs on all the fox and yote snares. It ain't the big one's I have to worry about, it's the little guys. I had to have the troopers come out and help me release one this year. Momma was not a happy camper. It all ended well and they went on thier merry way, but after that rodeo, never again! Still toying with the set up for wolves.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746084
04/06/13 02:25 AM
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Wow mixed ways to go for each area. See this is why trapperman is awesome, we get to evolve as efficient trappers fast. This snaring bit I'm paying attention. My mentor shared some same info.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746085
04/06/13 02:27 AM
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If and when we get a real population of wolf, ill apply it!


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746880
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Lots of guys have had really bad luck cutting locks. I know several old time wolf trappers very well that have lost MANY wolves due to cut locks and will simply not use them anymore. Sure would be nice to come up with something better. I still haven't found anything that I personally like.

I'm a little confused on snaps comment about caribou. Your cut locks actually release on caribou? I've always figured that a bit wolf caught by the neck would fight a snare every bit as hard or harder than a caribou caught by the neck. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I've seen caribou that died in their tracks practically. I've also played the caribou release from #9's game, not much fun...

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746887
04/06/13 05:35 PM
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I snared one by the antlers one time. Talk about a whirling dervish ! No way to even get close let alone release it. The lock wasn't even close to opening either.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746908
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That is the reason behind the stops .when a moose our caribou gets caught in one it will not tighten up on there leg and they will kick intel it brakes.when a wolf gets caught it tightens up and takes the play out of the snare .what we have found it takes a jerk or a snap to get it to pop not just a pull.have we lost A wolf yes .one in two years from the lock popping it was a big wolf.but we have saved a ton of caribou and moose . By using this set up .it is not perfect but it works

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3746981
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I had a bou break a lock and leave several weeks ago. I had another one. And the lock was not cut completely and the wolves had a hot meal. It's easier to deter a moose or caribou for me with snares than traps.
I have not lost a wolf yet with a cut lock, knock on wood. My day
may come though. I can't count the moose that have got out of a snare.
Before I cut the locks it was a different story though.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3747036
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