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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3747065
04/06/13 07:54 PM
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That is the reason behind the stops .when a moose our caribou gets caught in one it will not tighten up on there leg and they will kick intel it brakes.


Okay now I am totally confused Team V. I thought the moose and caribou slipped out of the snare because it didn't tighten down with the stop on it? Something breaks? What breaks?

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when a wolf gets caught it tightens up and takes the play out of the snare


What does this mean? Takes the play out? Why does it not choke him out?


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what we have found it takes a jerk or a snap to get it to pop not just a pull.
What pops. Are we still talking about the stop on the wolf snare.
Sorry but either you have changed gears or I am lost on the intentions of the stop on the wolf snare.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3747162
04/06/13 08:55 PM
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FT I think what he is saying is that the stop button keeps the cable open, not cinching down on the leg. Once the moose realizes there is something around its foot it kicks or jerks. During that process the cable is still open with wiggle room. After a few hard jerks the cut loc pops.
For the wolf when the snare tightens there is no wiggle room, it gets tighter with each pull until it taps out, and that should happen before the loc even comes close to the stop button.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3747205
04/06/13 09:18 PM
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Okay I reread things. I was thinking Team V was using only the stop instead of the cut lock. Leaving room for the moose to pull out of the snare not popping a lock. This is only to keep the cable from tightening down so tight that it cuts the skin. Seems like a good idea too. Thanks for the clarification. ;0)

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3747480
04/07/13 12:12 AM
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HFT is correct on hi description .just try to do less damage to a moose by not cutting the skin or by causing the leg to freeze if it can not pop lock.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3747513
04/07/13 01:04 AM
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team v. i use bridger #5 alaskan. more affordable and have only lost one wolf with a toe catch and that was my mistake on trap placement. i stick mostly to snaring but have a dozen in the box for [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot] posts and occasional trail sets.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749525
04/08/13 11:52 AM
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Time to swap out the 22long rifle revolver cylinder, for the 22 mag.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749584
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I'd change it out for a .375 H and H bore.... smile


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749607
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749659
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Good advice Kusko. That's on the agenda, when the big ones start coming out!

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749760
04/08/13 03:15 PM
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pellet gun .177 cal would be a bit more interesting laugh


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749774
04/08/13 03:26 PM
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I've been chasing beavers a bit. This is the biggest one so far, tacked out to 37 x 29. How's that size wise for an interior beav? I know, gotta perfect my board a little more!






Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749821
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66 would be about a 40 lb beaver here. Some of mine were still not completely primed up either, normally by March ours are pretty much all white on the flesh side.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749942
04/08/13 05:21 PM
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In my area 66 is on the small side of large. I just got done with the last of the beaver for me this year had to drill holes for most of these only a couple places where they had started crawling out and with the temps back down near 0 this last week none are coming out anymore unless starving


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3749979
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I figured it was 40-45 lb range, didn't weigh it. The others were around 60". Spek are you saying they will be prime right before they get "springy"? I'm fishing in a spring fed stream, nice not dealing with ice!

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3750008
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ST, this is the first year I have had where we had so much open water in march. In the past it has always been under ice trapping for me, but this year was all open water trapping.
I've always only trap them in March because they are the primest here then. By April they are losing prime. But this year, I don't think they ever did get fully prime here. Most looked
about like your's or bluer. But I'm no beaver expert, just what I have seen in this area. I usually just take 15 or 20 per year, just what my wife needs for making hats.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3750015
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Otterman, that's about the same here. Most of them run around 60 to 64 inches, and will weigh maybe 30 to 35 lbs.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3750061
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Was thinking of making a beaver hat, but someone here told me that beaver gets stiff when it's really cold, unlike some other furs. Anyone have any comment on that?

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3750116
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Stiff fur is not true IMO. But if I were to make hats in the future again it would be from otter hands down. Wears much better than beaver. Especially if your some one that wears goggles. Just pulling them off repeatedly will pull your forehead guard hairs out over time. Never see that on otter.

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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3750139
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I'd agree with that on the otter. Although I've worn beaver for years I think otter would hold up better.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3750185
04/08/13 07:27 PM
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Not many otter around here. Got a couple a few years ago and was going to keep them for sewing, but ended up selling them. Oh well, I needed an excuse to try and find more!

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