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Just calling someone a Czar is a worry to me. #1137080
01/19/09 10:01 PM
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A regulatory Czar that is also a zealot. Spooky beginnings.


Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:40:25 -0800
Subject: Obama appointee has AR history (Dallas Morning News)

> Dallas Morning News
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> Is Obama appointing an 'animal rights zealot' to high office?
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> Jeffrey Weiss
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> Fri, Jan 16, 2009
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> http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/01/is-obama-appointing-an-animal.html
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> Perhaps discussion about the ethical treatment of animals is going to
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> be higher on the new administration's agenda than one might think? On
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> an average day my e-box is filled with partisan screeds from a broad
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> spectrum. And usually I roll my eyes at the more extreme claims and go
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> on with my day. For instance, how about a headline that claims "New
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> Radical White House Appointee: No Hunting, Meat, or Medical Testing?"
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> Laughably implausible, yes? As it turns out: No. Overstated, to be
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> sure, but not as far as you'd think.
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> The fellow in question is Harvard professor Cass R. Sunstein, tagged
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> by Obama to be administrator of the Office of Information and
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> Regulatory Affairs, which is part of the White House Office of
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> Management and Budget. A quick Google turned up a paper he published
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> in 2002 titled The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer.
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> Head to the jump for excerpts.
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> On appropriate legal restrictions on the treatment of animals:
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> We should focus attention not only on the "enforcement gap," but on
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> the areas where current law offers little or no protection. In short,
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> the law should impose further regulation on hunting, scientific
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> experiments, entertainment, and (above all) farming to ensure against
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> unnecessary animal suffering. It is easy to imagine a set of
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> initiatives that would do a great deal here, and indeed European
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> nations have moved in just this direction.
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> Require low-suffering farming and ban recreational hunting:
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> "If we focus on suffering, as I believe that we should, it is not
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> necessarily impermissible to kill animals and use them for food; but
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> it is entirely impermissible to be indifferent to their interests
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> while they are alive. So too for other animals in farms, even or
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> perhaps especially if they are being used for the benefit of human
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> beings. If sheep are going to be used to create clothing, their
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> conditions must be conducive to their welfare. We might ban hunting
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> altogether, at least if its sole purpose is human recreation. (Should
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> animals be hunted and killed simply because people enjoy hunting and
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> killing them? The issue might be different if hunting and killing
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> could be justified as having important functions, such as control of
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> populations or protection of human beings against animal violence.)"
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> Put animal cruelty in the same moral context as human slavery:
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> "The problem is that most of the time, the interests of animals are
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> not counted at all--and that once they are counted, many of our
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> practices cannot possibly be justified. I believe that in the
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> long-run, our willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering
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> will be seem a form of unconscionable barbarity--not the same as, but
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> in many ways morally akin to, slavery and the mass extermination of
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> human beings.
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> To be fair, he also makes the case that medical experiments can be
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> justified. And knocks down the idea that animals should be recognized
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> as possessing the same kind of autonomy as people. And it's not as if
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> he's been appointed as Secretary of Agriculture or Interior, where his
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> animal-rights positions might be directly relevant."
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> But boy, howdy, I'd pay to see a confirmation hearing with this guy
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> where some of these issues got aired.


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Re: Just calling someone a Czar is a worry to me. [Re: Mira Trapper] #1137097
01/19/09 10:04 PM
01/19/09 10:04 PM
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great...cant wait for the next election. have 50,000 chickens plus beef cows and i hunt trap and fish...this guy hates me.


Sit back and enjoy the show as a nation of sheep unquestioningly and unknowingly follows their perceived savior off a cliff.
Re: Just calling someone a Czar is a worry to me. [Re: Mira Trapper] #1137100
01/19/09 10:06 PM
01/19/09 10:06 PM
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Now who,s grinning??

Re: Just calling someone a Czar is a worry to me. [Re: StatelineRunner] #1137781
01/20/09 08:11 AM
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All animal use people are in a precarious position when zealots such as this guy with his stated track record, are made CZARS. One also has to wonder about the King that created such a Czar. I am pretty sure the Medical researchers , farmers and Wildlife Conservation Biologists are quite challenged and nervous over such a choice.

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