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Gland Removal Post #1191185
02/14/09 12:03 AM
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I was looking in the archives and came up with only a few posts on actual gland removal. I'm hoping to create a post with pictioral and videos as well as written paragraphs about gland removal for trappers who have limited experience finding and removing glands from fox/coyote/bobcat/rat/beaver...etc I would encourage all to throw in their 2 cents on this one. I'll start...
I start skinning a rat by drying it out and then opening it up from foot to foot like this as well as cutting off both front feet right away.


I then cut around each leg and around the back of the tail and pull down a bit.


On spring rats like this one there are engorged glands on the stomach that I remove, bottle and use in my lures.



I like to clean skin my rats as best as possible. As I pull the fur down I cut off as much fat and muscle as I can all except the saddle. Once down to the legs cut carefully and use mostly pulling to remove around the front legs.

I tend to go slower around the head and eyes because the skin is clingier to the neck and skull. Make sure you don't cut the eye holes too big.


Here's a skinned out rat. As I put it on the stretcher I cut off all excess fat and muscle with great care.




There! A finished rat ready to dry.

Last edited by witrapper; 02/14/09 02:10 PM.
Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1191229
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so they don't have that much for glands in the fall and also not so much on muskrats but on other critters i have a hard time cutting the eye holes out does it come with practice since i'm inexperienced or do i need to do something different thanks jd


Re: Gland removing [Re: jd purdum] #1191239
02/14/09 12:26 AM
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I run my blade along the skull, not the pelt when cutting the eyes. Cutting a skull no problem, cutting too big of eyeholes one swift kick in the arse.

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Re: Gland removing [Re: jd purdum] #1191243
02/14/09 12:28 AM
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witrapper ... Thank You!
Have never done much in glands 'cept for castors/sacs. Have really wanted to do more this year, and have thought about a post like this. Hopefully it works out.

Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1191245
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ya i hear ya there i kicked myself in the butt plenty of times this year mostly fleshin but ya live and ya learn i guess do you just slide your knife or do you swipe it


Re: Gland removing [Re: jd purdum] #1191250
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I slide it with the blade pretty much perpendicular to the skull.

Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1191252
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hey witrapper, how do you preserve the gland after removal, lets say to market them. Approximately how many rats to get a pound of fresh gland?

Re: Gland removing [Re: skratmandoo] #1191255
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i'll give that a try next year thanks witrapper can you do one on coyotes next that would be great


Re: Gland removing [Re: jd purdum] #1191278
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Skratmandoo-It depends on my market. If it's to a big-time lure maker then I freeze dry. If it's to fellow trappers then I dehydrate and freeze. I usually just freeze mine until I make some lures and dry them out for 3 days before grinding.

Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1191491
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how do you freeze dry em


Re: Gland removing [Re: jd purdum] #1191902
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I have a mini freeze drying machine. Bought it from a chemistry materials supplier magazine.

Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1192101
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I just sold my 2 full quart jars of Red Fox glands to a lure maker for $50. All I did was freeze them.

Re: Gland removing [Re: Cougar] #1193247
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Can I get one of the mods to sticky this to the top?

Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1193483
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4mv91_national-outdoor-show--muskrat-skin_events

A couple of years ago I changed the way I skin I pull the pelt over the head first the pull it down the belly from the head I rarely ever tear the belly open these days kina like the young lady does in the vid HTH

and heres a guy that does it the way I used to do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sS_A-jjg1w


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Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1193487
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I save Weasel glands for lure use. While they are tiny and it takes a bunch to have any volume they are quite aromatic !


You can see the two small yellow peas next to the vent. I grab the vent with a tweezers and raise it slightly. The glnds will also raise slightly and you can slide a sharp exacto knife under them. It does not hurt at all to take a short length (3/8") of intestine with them.
The whole package gets dropped in a jar keeping the glands wet with a little glycol and store them in the freezer. It would take 100 Weasels to fill an ounce jar. Weasel glands make an excellent K-9 curiosity lure and work very well to grab the attention of any passing Mink.

Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1194375
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Re: Gland removing [Re: ] #1194528
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looks good them coming.. any for beaver or yote?


just a guy who is happy to be able to trap.. for whatever the price is

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2049655/1.html
Re: Gland removing [Re: countrysmith] #1195000
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another way shown clearer to get at those rat glands HTH


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Re: Gland removing [Re: aprophet] #1195077
02/15/09 10:06 PM
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Don't post those photos -- some anti might see them!

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Re: Gland removing [Re: James] #1195080
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why not post these photos? this is a big part of trapping.


Re: Gland removing [Re: Michigander] #1195105
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To assess the seriousness of my comment, see white17's post. lol

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sorry i thought you were bein serious there. blush


Re: Gland removing [Re: Michigander] #1195144
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Well, I'm guilty of a lot of things, but not often of being serious. lol

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Re: Gland removing [Re: James] #1196056
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i like your way of skinning aprophet. I might have to try it that way but it's hard to break a habit.

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Hello Witrapper that is not me skinning that is just how I started skinng a coupla years ago. The last vid just shows it a lot clearer the first vid is how I used to skin a rat when I first started out HTH Pal


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Re: Gland removing [Re: aprophet] #1198451
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I was hopeing to see more on this topic. So I'm going to try to give it a boost. In PA we don't have a spring rat season, are the glands still useful from fall/winter rats. What about raccoon, fox, mink, beaver, skunk, OPOSSUM, lol. I would like to be able to take as much as I can from the animals I trap. I think I may have seen some stuff about fox and beaver in the archives, but figured since this post was already up, wouldn't hurt to try to find some new info.
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Re: Gland removing [Re: spikexdeuce] #1198571
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Glands from fall and winter rats are basically non existent. They usually don't become engorged until spring. I would like to see a movie or pictorial of removing bobcat glands. I don' catch many very often so if I do I would like to make the most out of them.

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Song dogs 0/2
Reds 1/5
coon 3/0
possoms 1/0
beaver 7/5
rats 60/100
mink 5/10
fisher 2/3
bobcat 2/1
Re: Gland removing [Re: bmead] #1203058
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beaver 7/5
rats 60/100
mink 5/10
fisher 2/3
bobcat 2/1
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catches/goals
Song dogs 0/2
Reds 1/5
coon 3/0
possoms 1/0
beaver 7/5
rats 60/100
mink 5/10
fisher 2/3
bobcat 2/1
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Let's keep this post rolling!

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Nice job on that Western Red Squirrel lurking in the background there witrapper. smile


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Updated 7 September 2012 to allow users to get to the video. Tom


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