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Helmsey's fortune DID NOT go to the DOGS> #1315764
04/21/09 04:50 PM
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Looks like charities got the money that animal right thought they were getting..

Associated Press
Helmsley estate: $136M to charity, $1M to dogs
1 hour ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gSIObOX6ZhrQxo005cw0tdyVpLkAD97MVQPO0

NEW YORK (AP) — Trustees of real estate baroness Leona Helmsley's
estate say they're giving $136 million to charity — with just $1
million going to the dogs.

Helmsley's estate announced its first round of charitable grants on
Tuesday. The largest, $40 million, goes to New York-Presbyterian
Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center. The majority goes to New York
City hospitals and other health care systems across the country.

Helmsley's estate distributed $1 million to 10 animal rights groups,
including $100,000 to the ASPCA.

Animal rights groups rejoiced last year at reports that Helmsley — who
died in 2007 at age 87 — wanted her multibillion-dollar fortune to go
exclusively to dog-related charities. A court ruled in February that
the trustees had sole authority to decide which charities could
benefit from her estate.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


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Re: Helmsey's fortune DID NOT go to the DOGS> [Re: Mira Trapper] #1315796
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im glad the anti groups arent gonna get a windfll but it seems to me like if she made that money she should be able to do whatever she wanted to with it even after she was dead if she had it set up in her will. just my .02.

why should the trustees be allowed to go against her wishes? shes the one that earned the money , afterall.


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Re: Helmsey's fortune DID NOT go to the DOGS> [Re: cathryn] #1315843
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I'm with Cathryn on this one. On one hand, it's great that this money isn't going to go all to dog related charities, but on the other hand, it IS what she wanted, and it WAS her money to do with what she wanted.

Then again, I guess it all comes down to how it was actually written in that will, which we aren't privy to, and how it's perceived. If donating to these causes some how saves the life of a budding veterinarian or next president of HSUS, I guess through that logic, it kind of applies. If by donating to hospitals, it saves pet owners, then it's good for dogs.

Also, the Canine Health Foundation, Orthopedic Foundation For Animals and other organizations that actually do something to benefit dogs aren't likely going to get any of the money. That 1 million dollars is going to bogus organizations like PETA, HSUS and ASPCA (which actually has a worthwhile purpose, I feel, even if they are not always right on target).

I wouldn't be surprised if this gets appealed.

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if ya rally think about it it kinda calls into question whether your final wishes will carried out.

i mean if they arent gonna be whats the point in even having a will?

they should have done what she wanted them to do with her money.


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Re: Helmsey's fortune DID NOT go to the DOGS> [Re: cathryn] #1316006
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I agree too. I mean, don't get me wrong. I never like to see ANTI groups get money, I'm sure there are dog groups that aren't conserned with huntig and trapping. But, it was HER money, and instructions were left in HER will. It should be done how SHE wants.


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Re: Helmsey's fortune DID NOT go to the DOGS> [Re: Boomhawr] #1316245
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If you want someone to have something,
then give it to them now. After you're
dead you have little or no control.
Wills are often times so blessed stupid
that no court could up-hold them.


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Re: Helmsey's fortune DID NOT go to the DOGS> [Re: David Underwood] #1316606
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whether someone thinks anothers last wishes are stupid or not , shouldnt they be honored?



i do agree though that the only way to insure someone gets what you want them to have is to give it to them before you die. that leaves you with another dilemna though..how soon is soon enough. you wouldnt want to give your stuff away fpor fear your will wont be honored then end up without means to live yourself.


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NOTE: A list of the animal related organizations receiving funds can
be found at: http://www.helmsleytrust.org/grants/other-grants/

New York Times
Trustees Begin to Parcel Leona Helmsley’s Estate
By SAM ROBERTS
Published: April 22, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/nyregion/22helmsley.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion

The first $136 million from the hotelier Leona Helmsley’s disputed
multibillion-dollar estate has been distributed, trustees announced on
Tuesday, but the bulk went to medical centers instead of dogs.

Only $1 million of the estate, valued at about $5 billion, was donated
to the care of dogs, which Mrs. Helmsley had designated as her primary
beneficiary.

“This is a trifling and embarrassingly small amount,” said Wayne
Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States. “Mrs.
Helmsley’s wishes are clearly being subverted.”

After Mrs. Helmsley’s death in 2007, it was revealed that she had
drafted a mission statement four years earlier listing two specific
priorities for the distribution of her estate. The first was helping
the poor, which she struck from the document a year later. The second
was to provide for the care of dogs, although she added “and such
other charitable activities as the trustees shall determine.


In February, a Manhattan judge ruled that the trustees had sole
discretion in disbursing her assets and that the entire estate did not
have to go to the dogs.


Mrs. Helmsley, whose husband Harry was a real estate magnate, also
left $12 million to her own Maltese, Trouble. The disclosure that
Trouble was the largest named beneficiary in the will prompted death
threats against the dog.

Another judge reduced Trouble’s trust fund to $2 million; the dog’s
security costs the estate $100,000 a year. (The judge also negotiated
a $6 million settlement with two of Mrs. Helmsley’s grandchildren who
were explicitly left out of her will.)

The grants on Tuesday represented a fraction of the estate.

Mr. Pacelle of the Humane Society said, “We are extremely disappointed
that less than 1 percent of the allocation announced is going to
animal-related organizations, and only one-tenth of 1 percent is going
to animal welfare organizations.”

“We are in touch,” he continued, “with the interested parties and are
hoping to have a satisfactory resolution — a much larger percentage
than 1 percent.”

The biggest beneficiary was a digestive diseases center at New
York-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center, which received $40
million. Mount Sinai Medical Center received $25 million to create a
Helmsley Center to study the electrical properties of cells and
tissues and $10 million for a Helmsley Inflammatory Bowel Disease
Center.

The $1 million for animal rights and welfare was divided equally among
10 charities, including the A.S.P.C.A. and Guide Dogs for the Blind.

An additional 43 grants were distributed to educational, conservation
and anti-poverty programs.

Among about $15 million to health care groups in South Dakota was $3.5
million for Abbott House Foundation, which runs a center for victims
of sex abuse. The Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation received $2.5
million, and $2 million was given to endow a scholarship at the
Cornell University School of Hotel Administration. The National
Geographic Society received $750,000, and City Harvest,
Citymeals-on-Wheels, Common Ground, the Doe Fund and South Brooklyn
Legal Services each received $200,000.

The trustees of the Leona M. and Harry B. Helmsley Charitable Trust
are Mrs. Helmsley’s brother, Alvin Rosenthal; two of her grandsons,
Walter and David Panzirer; one of her lawyers, Sandor Frankel; and her
friend John Codey.

The trustees, in a prepared statement, said, “Throughout their lives,
the Helmsleys were committed to helping others, through the
innovations of medical research.”
They did not address the controversy
over dogs.


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hah. I was wondering how it was worded. Clearly she didn't intend for it to ALL go to the dogs. She clearly expected her fortune to be dolled out by people who she respected (the trustees). smile

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Originally Posted By: Lil' Bit
hah. I was wondering how it was worded. Clearly she didn't intend for it to ALL go to the dogs. She clearly expected her fortune to be dolled out by people who she respected (the trustees). smile



Knowing Helmsey's type of personality, I suspect she was playing lip service to the ARA & Animal welfare folk.


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“This is a trifling and embarrassingly small amount,” said Wayne
Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States. “Mrs.
Helmsley’s wishes are clearly being subverted.”
Wow! This guys got some nerve! Calling a Million bucks trifling?
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Aw. Come on. IF you were told you were going to get a 20 dollars weekly for an allowance and 'anything else mom says', and you show up on monday before school with your hand out and only get 5 dollars, because mom spent 15 dollars on new underwear and socks for you, you'd throw a tantrum too.

That's what he's doing. He's throwing a little tantrum. Big freaking baby.

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