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Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: ] #1508101
09/23/09 09:44 AM
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when you say set 4 1/2 inches off center,you mean the center of trap pan should be 4 1/2 inches from the middle of the location in between guide sticks?

Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: coonman220] #1508407
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Originally Posted By: coonman220
when you say set 4 1/2 inches off center,you mean the center of trap pan should be 4 1/2 inches from the middle of the location in between guide sticks?
That is correct. Beaver are wide animals. I'm convinced a common reason for sprung traps is that some set them too close to center and the beaver has a large part of it's foot on the jaw/dog when it fires. The closer to dead center between the jaws the foot is when the trap fires the better off you will be. 4 1/2" offset puts the outside trap jaw right against the guide stick on one side with guide sticks 14" apart.

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Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: ] #1508447
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Originally Posted By: Kre
OK Goldy...not to bust your chops here, but what am I supposed to believe?

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I know this, if a beaver puts it's front foot in my trap, it will be there in the morning.


Originally Posted By: goldy
When I first got mine I lost 3 out of the first 5 beaver by setting them shallow.


I'm just trying to make a point here: Each season I catch a couple beaver that have twisted off a front foot. Never in my whole life, have I caught one missing a back foot.

Nothing is 100%. Things go wrong for even the best trappers. I just believe the chances of something going wrong goes up with a front foot caught beaver...especially for an inexperienced trapper.
I'm saying I try to set all traps shallow EXCEPT 85's. I don't use many 85's, partly because I haven't needed any new traps for years. I'll use them when I want to get a foothold set in and there's no shallow water to set in and I know there's no chance of a front-foot catch. I lost the three out of five beaver in 85's because they pulled out, not twisted off.

I've caught many 3 legged beaver. I'm convinced the reason for 3 leggers is because of poor drowning systems, which includes too shallow of water. I've seen footholds set that were wired to a tree on the bank. I've seen many traps set where the end of the drowner was in 1'- 2' of water. Stuff like that is just begging for twist-offs. When you say nothing is 100%, it has been for me. Maybe I've just been lucky with no twist-offs, but it sure has been a pile of beaver over the years. I just think the odds of losing a hind-foot caught beaver are much greater than setting shallow and hoping for a front foot.




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Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: goldy] #1508507
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which way do you offset the trap to target the front foot of those 3 legged beaver?

I use laminated offset traps if not drowning, sometimes cabled to a tree or a 4' stake, never caught a 3 legged one or had twistout problems. i do avoid entanglement when not drowning.

Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: ccary] #1508528
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Target the side with the leg. LOL.


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Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: goldy] #1508559
09/23/09 06:27 PM
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Bingo! you said it critrgetr! The lamination is the key to not loosing beaver on a front foot catch! The narrow jaw of a stock regular jaw will work on those front feet!

Re: Beaver and Hind Foot Catches [Re: ] #1508648
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LOL goldy, i hear ya.

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