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neck snareing coon #1628604
12/01/09 10:20 PM
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what would it take to neck snare coon every time?is it a matter of blocking them down hard to get them on the neck more than the body?anyone who knows chime on in and lets talk about it


i live and work in this city but am truly alive on this river......tom burns
Re: neck snareing coon [Re: mr. finch] #1628614
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what would be the correct size of loop and height off the ground. i know we got some wicked snareman on this fourm so maybe this could be a talk for the arcives


i live and work in this city but am truly alive on this river......tom burns
Re: neck snareing coon [Re: mr. finch] #1628618
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That's a good Question I would like the answer to that also. Every time I have caugt one it's around his mid section.

Re: neck snareing coon [Re: Hal Aggers] #1628653
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You will never catch all coons on the neck every time. I set 6-7" high with an open hand size loop. I will block them down if the trail allows. The size of coons varies greatly so there is no "perfect" answer. The archives will give you some tips.


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: Hal Aggers] #1628663
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This was discussed early fall this year and alot agree that they can be hard to consistantly neck snare due to the variance in size. I know a guy that uses a 4 inch loop about 1 inch off the ground and says that is how he does it. And, yes, I would agree that more blocking would be necassary but I think the others here like Lt. Grey,ADC,Opposum Skinner,Newt,etc. would be valuable in their ideas.

Re: neck snareing coon [Re: tbn] #1628671
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I will add that my son snared his first coon last week in his first attempt and did notice that he made his loops smaller than what I do.It was about 5 or 6 inches I would say and was a perfect neck catch.

Re: neck snareing coon [Re: tbn] #1628694
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Originally Posted By: tbn
This was discussed early fall this year and alot agree that they can be hard to consistantly neck snare due to the variance in size. I know a guy that uses a 4 inch loop about 1 inch off the ground and says that is how he does it. And, yes, I would agree that more blocking would be necassary but I think the others here like Lt. Grey,ADC,Opposum Skinner,Newt,etc. would be valuable in their ideas.


If you are snaring grass tunnels in marshes it is easier then having to block down trails a lot of my snaring is grass tunnels and crawl unders so far it is working good on coons and greys 4-5 X 4-5 a little larger and higher I start catching red fox HTH


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: aprophet] #1628719
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ask ADC

Re: neck snareing coon [Re: coontrappernick] #1628777
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Originally Posted By: coontrappernick
ask ADC
maybe him or rally hess will be willing to share on this one


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: mr. finch] #1628782
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thanks to all that posted maybe we all can get to an answer on this one


i live and work in this city but am truly alive on this river......tom burns
Re: neck snareing coon [Re: mr. finch] #1629671
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You won't consistently get a neck catch.
There is just too much difference in coon size.
Also add into the equation terrain.
Have a good 1
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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: just] #1629780
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Kirk Miller had a pic of two neck snared coons.......But some nice..............or should sugarcoat it and say wisetails posted some crap about the trappperman booth he did for the Kids at the Kansas rondy. The word I got he is planning on being a lurker......so the nice people on here caused another information book to be closed. Your loss.


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: Cletis Richards] #1629795
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If you set your small loops just the right height off the ground you'll neck snare all the coons you catch. I'd start with a 5" loop and set it 6" off the trail. Use an agressive non relaxing lock with fast loaded cable and you should neck snare most all the coons you catch, and with the right locks they won't work the loop either on farther or off themselves.... That said you'll miss ALOT of coons, get many knocked down snares, avoid any fox, and be all around disgusted with the results on the sets where the coons weren't just the right sized or chose not to play be the rules.

For me I just choose to use the right cable and locks and set-ups to avoid as much snare mark as possible and target them right behind both front feet on the 2x or bigger coons I target.

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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: ] #1629890
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ADC seems to know what he's talking about here, and that's been my experience too - although I'm the first to admit I'm not a good snareman, on coons or anything else.

It's been my experience that half the time or more, if a coon gets snared around the neck he'll just take it off. I suppose a loaded loop and an aggressive nonrelaxing lock, like ADC recommended, would help some in that regard, also like ADC said, snaring coons leads to LOTS of knocked down snares and a lot of disgust with the results.

Here comes some heresy, but I just don't think a snare is a very good tool for coon trapping. Too many more good alternatives.


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Originally Posted By: Jim Spencer
Here comes some heresy, but I just don't think a snare is a very good tool for coon trapping. Too many more good alternatives.


You were doing god up til that line. lol

A snare is the prefect tool to use to catch snares on parts of my line. There are places where I could set nothing else. Since my fur buyer does not dock me for the faint marks my snares leave on the pelts I see no reason not to use them. You have to realize your talking to a whole world of trappers on here. Many have very different situations than others, so a blanket statement like that, while true for you may not cover everyone. I have locations through thin grass where a 220 would never work, its high profile so dog proofs are out, prone to loose pets so foot holds are not a good option, if I passed on all those locations my catch would be way down.





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Well, that's true, ADC. Well put. Caught me with egg on my face, didn't you? Snares just don't work good for my situation, is what I should have said. The folks I've sold to down through the years haven't been as forgiving when it comes to snare marks, so I've gotten away from using them for coons. I still snag a few every year in beaver, otter and cat snares, but I don't set very many snares any more on purpose for coons. I'd just rather use a leg-hold or a bucket or a cage or a DP.


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: Jim Spencer] #1631897
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You don't use kill poles? It looks like you would run out of trail after a few catches.


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: Cletis Richards] #1631945
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Originally Posted By: Cletis Richards
Kirk Miller had a pic of two neck snared coons.......But some nice..............or should sugarcoat it and say wisetails posted some crap about the trappperman booth he did for the Kids at the Kansas rondy. The word I got he is planning on being a lurker......so the nice people on here caused another information book to be closed. Your loss.
in hope not i sure like talking to him


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Re: neck snareing coon [Re: mr. finch] #1631962
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For me I just choose to use the right cable and locks and set-ups to avoid as much snare mark as possible and target them right behind both front feet on the 2x or bigger coons I target.

~ADC~maybe we can pm each other and talk about that too? thanks jamie


i live and work in this city but am truly alive on this river......tom burns
Re: neck snareing coon [Re: mr. finch] #1631965
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thanks to all who took time to post replys here


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