Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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When there are topic discussions about using different kinds of hardware fasteners to affix and secure to traps, chain, cable, stakes, snares, drags, drowners, etc., names of devices are mentioned - often without photos. Most of us tend to assume that other trappers already know what we are talking about when tossing out a connector term. And, there are always those times that we need a replacement part for something that we already own, or we may want to make and rig up something without knowing what to call the parts that we need when shopping for the components to make it. For those younger and beginning trappers who may not be familiar with their names or what they look like, here are illustrations of the more popular ones used for those purposes as a reference assembled under one cover for easy access to know and learn what they are. These are commercial devises available from most trapping supply houses and local hardware store outlets, and the majority of the photos were taken from online trapping supply, hardware fastener dealer and manufacturer catalogs - the malority of the photos are from Minnesota Trapping Products and F&T Fur Harvester catalogs. It is by no means intended to be all inclusive, but the best examples that I could assemble for an overview of what I found available that could be used by trappers. I puposely did not include homemade devices in the main content of this introductory post - that is a separate topic that has been covered and discussed numerous times with several examples of what they are and how made already in the Archives here and on other trapping forums. However, I will include some to show how the homemade commercial counterparts are used in practice on traps, chains, etc. Those will be easily recognized compared to the manufactured products. These names are as close to what I believe to be hardware industry standards for them. Individuals may refer to them differently, and they even may have different regional terminology. The list of photos is in no special order, but are grouped in categories as close as I could come up with for now. Hopefully, as this post may progress, members will share photos as to how they apply and use these different devices on their gear, and anyway else on the trapline. This is an open invitation for those to show their respective applications to compliment this narrative. Contributions of examples from member trappers that arrive on this thread will be included in an Appendix at the end of this draft. There will be duplicates of some of the same connectors to view them from different perspectives to show variations in size, gauge, shape and manner of manufacturing assembly. *** IF? *** You are wondering where to find any of these for purchase, you can find the majority of them through Minnesota Trapline Products or F&T Fur Harvesters online catalogs, or through any other reputable trapping supply dealers of choice. TAKE SPECIAL NOTE There are over 50 photos in this post and unfortunately the forum would only record half of them. The narrative and all of the photos can be found here: Trap Hardware Jonathan
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Jonathan, as usual, very informative.
Andy
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Does anyone happen to have any example photos of how they use some of this hardware in combinations on the trapline?
Jonathan
Camera Gear: Canon EOS 7D-MK-II, Canon EF-S 10-22mm, EF 28-135mm, EF 100-400mm and EF 400mm lenses.
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Anybody else know about all of this stuff? I never did 60 years ago when I started out.
A TTT of sorts looking for examples to feed my intent of the original ink drop.
Jonathan
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Excellent info even for us experienced beginners, Jonathan! Here is a connecting device I use a lot as an inline swivel for snares and extention cable for bodygrips. They are brass barrel swivels that are anodized black. Pictured are size #8 (which are rated at 900 lbs.) being used with double ferrules and 3/32" cable. These swivels are available through commercial fishing dealers or Rally Snares.
Last edited by 4 Fur; 01/29/10 09:19 AM.
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Here are a few examples for the Appendix. Jonathan "Basic Sets" Forum - Trapperman.com ADC, IA - Assorted Snare Locks Possumskinner, VA Phil Brown, PA - Cable Stake Rigging Jim Blakley, MN - Chain Drowner Swampfox, DE - Rebar Stake Puller Unknown 2poor, MN - Conibear Anchor 2Chase, MI Trapp, British Columbia - #110 Spring Connector Unknown Jim Bauer,MN - Rebar Drowning Slider Goldy,MN - Drowning Rods
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Livetrap, That didn't bother my ingrown toenails the least bit. Thank you for the contribution of that valuable example. That is the exact type of ingenuity that I was shopping for to add to this thread. Neat!!
Chain is in fact hardware and an obvious connecting device and I will put it in the Appendix.
Jonathan
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Jonathan, Here are a few we use for cats and you can use a smaller version for attaching smaller traps for say marten, or kill traps. Easy to get traps on and off with gloves on in the winter, yet critters can't get them off as you have to be able to push the nail/metal rod against the cable to get it to come back out. Akntpr on the Wilderness side has a version he sells with a loop where I have the two ferrils that you can then push the nail part through to make a loop around a tree if you wanted to. Very ingenious, but I will leave it to him to share. -TJ
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Jimmy, Thanks for sharing that variation on a theme. I've only seen a similar application as your "connector" strategy once before, and it was for water trapping.
Jonathan
Camera Gear: Canon EOS 7D-MK-II, Canon EF-S 10-22mm, EF 28-135mm, EF 100-400mm and EF 400mm lenses.
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Thanks all for the info/new ideas.
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Here is another one to keep this thread flowing for a little while longer. Jonathan Trapper Rod,NY - Rebar Drowning Rod
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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White17, Thanks for that stutter. Found a few more to add in content/context while waddling through the night on the wake of my full moon electromagnetism. Jonathan Jwilson,WI - MTP (Minnesota Trapping Products) Sliders On Exhibit Jason Dufrsne, MN - Homemade Slider On Drowning Rig With Smooth Rod Tim Bauer,MN - Drowning Slider And Railroad Tie Plate Anchor
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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A simple example of one of my double stake swivels. I was experimenting with cold-dyeing using a black walnut solution. Jonathan
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Denny, Thanks for that photo showing the connectors on that spring and how it affixes to the chain. I'll add it to the Appendix later.
Jonathan
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Before this thread dissolves into infinity, I am casting for more examples of this "hardware" in use before I park it for good somewhere so others may be able to learn a little bit from the presentation at a later date.
End of the hunt!
Anybody else got photos?
Jonathan
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Found one more for reference. Jonathan Kyboy, KY - Trap Drag And Chain Assembly
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Re: Trap Hardware Connecting Devices
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Thank you to all for sharing your examples to beef up this thread.
Regards,
Jonathan
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