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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: goldy] #1847208
02/22/10 10:11 PM
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Good Post Tim

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: ] #1847221
02/22/10 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: dcampbell
I had four doubles today 7 yotes and 1 grey fox. One side of the road was a dirthole variation and on the other side was a post or flat set. the flat set i pretty much use Lenons Nature call Yote lure and fox pee. I catch lots of big toms on the post sets with either of the Yote or Cat Nature Call lures. If you trap yotes and havent given the Natures call lure a try I think you should. I have had fantastic results with that lure for the past two or three seasons.

Nice catch.Congrats.

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: ] #1847244
02/22/10 10:22 PM
02/22/10 10:22 PM
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North Alabama
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Originally Posted By: Denny Emery
Barns always seem to have a "smell", be it manure, animal, rotted hay, who knows they just always seem to have an odor. Maybe if the sets were around farmland it wouldn't "smell" but I would think if it was placed out in the middle of a pine forest it would indeed stink and be out of place.


Thanks Denny, The dirt was Very Very Dusty like Pete, but heavery of course...but had a distict smell. I tried to blend with native dirt and leaves, but struggled. The weather turned, Now I'm able to use Native dirt, Im catching Yotes and Foxes again...lol


"Just remember ole buddy that you have to move to get a better spot. And it takes a strong man to move out of his comfortable spot."

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: ] #1847259
02/22/10 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: dcampbell
I had four doubles today 7 yotes and 1 grey fox. One side of the road was a dirthole variation and on the other side was a post or flat set. the flat set i pretty much use Lenons Nature call Yote lure and fox pee. I catch lots of big toms on the post sets with either of the Yote or Cat Nature Call lures. If you trap yotes and havent given the Natures call lure a try I think you should. I have had fantastic results with that lure for the past two or three seasons.


Yes Mr.Lenons lure are absolutely excellent.

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: LockJaw] #1847280
02/22/10 10:36 PM
02/22/10 10:36 PM
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thanks for the tips Mr.Caven. I love getting on this site and reading the posts from all the experts,and thanks for that Mr.Dobbins.

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: LockJaw] #1847288
02/22/10 10:38 PM
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Ohio
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Good post Tim. I remember reading articles like this in "Tim's Tips" in your catalogs years ago. Muskrats, slide wires for fox, etc. Brings back memories... grin

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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: PocketJax] #1847397
02/22/10 11:20 PM
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I had the exact same situation here in MN last fall. They wouldn't touch a dirthole at the onset of season (coyotes were in the wet corn and eating it. Coyote poo looked like coon poo...100% corn). They were not interested in anything in the dirthole. Posts were picking them up so I went to that with great success. Lenons Coyote Natures Call is my post lure.

After about 7 days (and the onset of trying Lenons Bobcat All call lure), they started hitting the dirholes but only the ones that had Lenons Bobcat All call in them. Still wouldn't touch my tried and true lures. They finally came full circle and went to almost exclusively dirholes. posts were still working to a much lesser degree now.

I suspect something similar (to our wet corn feeding frenzy) was happening down there in TX. Any particular food source getting hit? When their not hungry...go to posts. And/or give Asa's bobcat lure a try.

BTW, I have no bobcats where I/m at...but I/ll be trading up Asa for some Bobcat lure this spring.

Last edited by Calvin; 02/22/10 11:22 PM.

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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Calvin] #1847677
02/23/10 03:33 AM
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Necedah, WI.
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I will go back to this/your post as a instructional, thanks


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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Bruce T] #1847774
02/23/10 07:05 AM
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Thanks for the pictures!

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Tim Caven] #1847777
02/23/10 07:09 AM
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Southeastern Pennsyltucky
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Tim ........... very informative and generous ........... thanks for sharing


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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: STINGER] #1847815
02/23/10 07:55 AM
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Nice job splainin smile sets looked great!

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: timrose] #1848042
02/23/10 10:01 AM
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When I make a grouping of sets I always add one or two post sets amongst the dirthole sets lured with Fox, Coyote, Bobcat or Mink Nature's Call lure. More often than not the post sets are the ones holding the older wiser more wary coyotes and no cat will pass them either. Asa

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Bruce T] #1848106
02/23/10 10:34 AM
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Georgia
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Enjoyed this post. Thanks for the good info and pics. I try and blend a little better here too. Never experimented with it though.


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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Bruce T] #1848122
02/23/10 10:41 AM
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Nice pics and great info!


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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Bruce T] #1848135
02/23/10 10:46 AM
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Good post, thanks for taking the time with all of the pictures.

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: VaBeagler] #1851205
02/24/10 04:16 PM
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What? No Mafia's ? smile

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: LT GREY] #1851265
02/24/10 04:52 PM
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love the way the post lean away from the set. I seen where some folks lean way toward the set. It seems to me like your method would work alot better because you are pulling the animal towards the trap. Cool.


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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: furkiller] #1851295
02/24/10 05:05 PM
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Great post Tim, thanks for taking the time to share.


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Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: Freepop] #1851710
02/24/10 08:12 PM
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great post. and great catch

Re: When dirt holes aren't clicking [Re: john1182] #1854322
02/25/10 09:28 PM
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Furkiller, I always lean my post back when trapping in the south where the catch could equally be a coyote, bobcat, grey fox, or red fox. In Minnesota where the odds are 90% that it will be a coyote I mix it up between straight up and angled back just changing the positioning of my trap when I change the angle. When angling back you also reduce the amount of blocking that you need on the backside which saves time. I put all my posts in by drilling a hole with my power auger and bury them well. I don't want a bobcat that misses the trap on its initial approach to be able to tip the post over if it gets to rubbing on it.

When making artificial post sets I want that post to be the most obvious structure that the animal encounters. Obviously to make one in a clear cut with lots of nature debris you would lose this effect so I would choose another type of set in this situation. When trapping in Texas with Dave Campbell I found that he had a excellent eye for natural post sets, much better then I. One of the great benefits of trapping with different folks, always something to learn.


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