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Pricing- per animal charge #1937891
04/06/10 02:48 PM
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I have started doing a little ADC work
I am getting a few more jobs to do my question is
what do some of you guys charge per animal from moles to beaver
please pm me with any help


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Re: per animal charge [Re: N.W.MISSOURI] #1938264
04/06/10 06:34 PM
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I usually charge per the job, not by the animal.

Re: per animal charge [Re: Tri-State Wildli] #1938285
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Missouri. it would probably serve you better to have a friend or relative call local ADC guys and find out what the going rate is in your area, whether it's by job or animal. That's what we did when we were new to the business. Now I'm the old guy and people call us to establish a price.

Re: per animal charge [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #1938515
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There is only one guy with in 25 miles of me that I can find doing ADC work and I called him he pretty much told me to go to south of heaven


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Re: per animal charge [Re: N.W.MISSOURI] #1938575
04/06/10 09:02 PM
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You know when I started my competition never said nothing and refused to.

So had the wife call around and she got prices over the phone as a customer and I was able to get some favorable base to start with. I gave up on per animal charges just did not work for me too many variables and to me all a job was my windshield time, time on the property, use of my equipment, wear and tear and baits and lures.

NW Missouri tell me your town and county and I should be able to tell you who is and not in your area. Guys drive farther for the bigger bat and bird jobs . The average critter on the ground mileage is about 45 miles. I know guys who go further and many that won't even drive 20.

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In Sarasota Fl my whole area of business usually was within 13 miles of my home but I had over a half million population to work with and all the beach resort areas.Traffic was a big variable and my worst enemy even working 13 miles from home.


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Re: per animal charge [Re: Robb Russell] #1938770
04/06/10 10:32 PM
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It depends on the job.

I always charge by the job for chipmunks, squirrels, voles, muskrats

I charge per catch for raccoons, woodchucks, beaver, coyotes

I go either way on skunks and other species depending on the job

Re: per animal charge [Re: Nathan Krause] #1938797
04/06/10 10:46 PM
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I Do a Inspection an set up fee which covers my drive time an time at the job site an then a per animal fee to pay for baits carcass disposal, an them any other expense I have for that job. I do not do the per animal fee with bats or birds.


Joe Herrman
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Re: per animal charge [Re: nighthunter2] #1938821
04/06/10 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: nighthunter2
I Do a Inspection an set up fee which covers my drive time an time at the job site an then a per animal fee to pay for baits carcass disposal, an them any other expense I have for that job.


I do the same set up/ inspection fee for jobs that I charge per animal.

But my question is do you charge the same per animal fee regardless of the animal?

If you charge $50 for a raccoon do you charge more for a coyote or less for a mole?

I couldn't see charging the same for a beaver and a vole and that is why I switched to set prices for certain animals.

Re: per animal charge [Re: Nathan Krause] #1938895
04/06/10 11:45 PM
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Yes my per animal fees very from different types of animals an depending on the area I live near a few rich towns such as Aspen an Snowmass so my per beaver fees vary from 100 dollers up to 250 dollers depending on how hard it is to set the stupid suitcase traps that we are now reduced to use in the state of colorado. They scare me to I feel more comfortable settin a 330 conibear then those live beaver traps.


Joe Herrman
Paramount Wildlife Management
Glenwood Springs
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Re: per animal charge [Re: nighthunter2] #1940204
04/07/10 05:49 PM
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Sam here as above!

Re: per animal charge [Re: LT GREY] #1940231
04/07/10 06:01 PM
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Starting adc, I've read posts on here to base pricing.
Everything but coyote, I charge per animal, coyote, I
charge 50 a head, plus 50 a month for keeping the
service running on ranches/farms depending on travel/
mileage.

Re: per animal charge [Re: coyotecrazy] #1940765
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Originally Posted By: coyotecrazy
Starting adc, I've read posts on here to base pricing.
Everything but coyote, I charge per animal, coyote, I
charge 50 a head, plus 50 a month for keeping the
service running on ranches/farms depending on travel/
mileage.

You must not be doing ADC full time. That's way too cheap for coyote work.

Re: per animal charge [Re: nccoyote] #1940784
04/07/10 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: nccoyote
Originally Posted By: coyotecrazy
Starting adc, I've read posts on here to base pricing.
Everything but coyote, I charge per animal, coyote, I
charge 50 a head, plus 50 a month for keeping the
service running on ranches/farms depending on travel/
mileage.

You must not be doing ADC full time. That's way too cheap for coyote work.


I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to be the one to say anything.

I would go broke at $50 a head

Re: per animal charge [Re: Nathan Krause] #1940825
04/07/10 10:29 PM
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No not yet I'm not, but when coyote becomes a big part of my
work which its not yet, I'll have to raise the rate alot.
Skunks are good money here. setup and first catch 125.00
and I'm still 75.00 cheaper then my closest competition.
The other thing is, like catching yotes, but I'm a coyote
catching student compared to many of you, and a master compared
to most around here.
I read on here alot more then I post.

Re: per animal charge [Re: Nathan Krause] #1940838
04/07/10 10:33 PM
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for True predator control, acreage, type of property, woods, field, pasture... all depends. say for a job 20 miles away for predator reduction. 1 months time,(traps ran everyday) traps for coyotes, fox, coon and skunk... $2-5K good luck.


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Re: per animal charge [Re: BUD25] #1940921
04/07/10 10:56 PM
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I guess that depends on how many traps your puting out.
2-5k a month, not unless your running a few person crew,
or buying all your baits lure etc.
Depends on how big of ranch your working too. most around here.
150 acers tops. Even part time, I've been making out pretty
well.

Re: per animal charge [Re: coyotecrazy] #1940953
04/07/10 11:06 PM
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I don't want to be a jerk but maybe your not thinking clearly.

$50 a coyote and $50 a month won't pay for your time or fuel. That doesn't even include insurance for yourself or vehicle, vehicle maintance, wear and tear on equipment, etc.

If your farm is 10 miles away you are running 20 miles every day, 140 miles a week, 600 miles a month. Gas at $2.50 a gallon and say you get 15 miles a gallon you are spending $100 just in gas a month and that is with generous figures. more realistic numbers would be 10 miles a gallon at $3.00 a gallon and you are at $180 a month.

Honestly how many coyotes are you pulling off a 150 acre farm a month?

Even without looking at the fact you are spending more than you are making you are shorting yourself income because you could be charging double what you are now and still be lowballing.

Re: per animal charge [Re: coyotecrazy] #1940983
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How do you go about starting up adc work? I imagin it varies from state to state


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Re: per animal charge [Re: trapperandy] #1941012
04/07/10 11:34 PM
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I'll jump up on my soapbox one more time.

I never ever charge per animal, this ain't fur trapping. This is problem solving. I charge X amount to solve the problem. If that means I show up and go BOO and the animal leaves and never comes back I get paid. If I have to chase down and wrestle the SOB to the ground and haul it off I get paid. If I have to set a gross of traps I get paid. My skill is not in how many I can catch (though I'm pretty danged good in that area too) but in how I can can target the problem and solve it.

Disagree all you want but the per animal charge is to open to cheats for my taste. What about the common squirrel in the attic call? At certain times of the year that will be one lone female (though soon to be more). How do you make money on a per animal charge then? If you do it right she's busted the first check and your done (well not quite but alot of per animal guys know squat about exclusion). I tell you how my competitors make money on that call. They catch the neighbors squirrels, thats how.

Your best bet is to first learn the animals. How many, when at what time of year. And that will tell you how many you will catch, how many traps to use and how many checks to get them all. Now add up your time, gas and expenses and you have your per JOB fee. On many species this can be predicted from the office and the fee can be quoted up front. On other species (bats, beavers, canines for example) each job is unique and must be quoted based upon site inspection. For those I have a base rate inspection with the understanding that my quote is based upon that inspection.


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Re: per animal charge [Re: warrior] #1941015
04/07/10 11:36 PM
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BTW, a fifty dollar yote ain't enough to get my key in the ignition. When a customer quotes me a price like that I laugh and tell them to keep my number handy.


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