Rabies- Is rabies a real danger?
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Nathan Krause
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Just curious what your guys thoughts are on rabies and how much of a danger you really think it is.
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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It has to be respected and assumed at times. While I have never had a critter tested I know that I have come up on it more than once in several differnt critters.
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Bob Wendt]
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everyone knows rabies is only a REAL RISK if you are the guy that catches it. for everyone else it`s a no brainor that it`s no issue at all, totally fabricatd b.s. ........ I once refered to Rabies as the "Al Qaeda" of diseases exactly because of that statement Bob. Those who aren't directly affected think it is B.S.
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Bob Wendt]
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[quote]raccoons and skunks out in a yard in the day time gotta raise an eye brow, because its not normal[/quote
Not normal behavior, but it happen on the left coast.....corresponds with your "best time to fish and hunt calendar"....... Two week every year, I get calls about raccoons out in the day.....
Next time you see a coyote in a field in the middle of the day,,,,Have a look.....
I believe Mike from CC got very sick from Pre exposure shots,,,,,,,
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Vinke]
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I guess the next question is how do we use rabies information in our sales tactics? Unless someone had been bitten, why bring it up?
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Bob Wendt]
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From what I have read in Indiana the two main species that have came back positive for rabies are bats and dogs. However it seems to me the numbers are scewed for the fact that there have been 100 times more dogs and bats tested than anything else so I say of course they are going to have more confirmed cases. This all makes me wonder exactly how many actual cases of rabies get misdiagnosed or just called distemper because its unknown. How many sick raccoons do you get in a yard every year and you say distemper? Unless animals have the viscous, drooling "Old Yeller" strain its my understanding (from biologists) that there is no way to look at an animal and say 100% they have rabies. I have been told the only true way to anser that is in a lab. And yes Bob is right you dont have to get bit by a bat, how many of you do attic clean outs and dont have a profilactic, or pre-exposure? Many of us in this industry are flirting with disaster I would guess. Informing John Q Public about zoonotic diseases could be a full time job, if a city type person ever got on the CDC web site and looked only at the bird diseases they would most likely never go outside again lol. So I keep it simple and if someone asks about the whole rabies thing, I keep it to the facts and answer thier questions as best I can. If they ask me something im unsure of I refer them to the CDC because I do not want to misenform them. I never want to be accused of selling a job by means of scare tactics, I believe I am a better person than that.
it is not a stupid question if you do not know the answer
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
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Ok, I guess I should have seen there were two pages on here. I guess warrior has covered all my points already.
it is not a stupid question if you do not know the answer
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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Paul rabies is a virus and typically spread by saliva. You may have never had a record of a rabid raccoon in Wisconsin frr 50 years but your own area holds the only record of the worlds only rabies survivor about 60 miles away from you in Fon du Lac, Jeanna Giese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_protocol Reading your posts I would say you have had 22 years of luck. Your own own son PJ I have read has not been as lucky! I never take a chance with wildlife and the possible diseases that may and or can spread. I am sure Dr. Bob Wendt, DVM has more to enlighten all of us here.It is his opinion that really should matter since he is the actual medical professional and subject matter expert on zoonotic diseases. How many times have each of you washed your hands today? What do you carry in your truck to keep your hands and cab clean? Do you or your company have a protocol to follow to not spread the potential of diseases from customer to customer or from a customer to your own family & pets?
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
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Rabies is, of course, a real danger but so is lightning and many other things.
The US averages around one rabies death per year. But around 25,000 people get preventive medical treatment after coming into contact with a potentially rabid animal.
Common sense rules. If your job is to deal with nuisance wildlife, pre-exposure treatment is prudent. If trapping is a hobby, it may be a good idea or it may be overkill.
One thing is for sure in my mind. If you get bit by a wild animal, treat it as if it were a rabid animal whether you have had the pre-exposure treatment or not. how bad are they i refuse to take a flu shot but will take shots for anything else The price of the pre-exposure vaccine varies from affordable to ridiculous. I paid $800 but I've heard of it a cheap as $300.
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Bob Wendt]
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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Paul, I've heard that this was not necessarily a true cure but more likely a misdiagnosis. Anybody got any real science on this case?
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: LAtrapper]
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Yes Luke, I was told if you are bitten by a rabid animal, the doctor will make you get a couple more shots just to be sure.
Dave, from everything I've read and been told, the bat was rabid, it did bit her, she did have rabies and she is still suffering residual effects. Doesn't sound like a misdiagnosis to me.
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Re: Is rabies a real danger? What are your opinions?
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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Most people that die of rabies never recall ever being bitten by an animal.
That's because most of them weren't. It is transmitted through saliva but a bit is not required.
Rabid horses used to be the #1 way to get rabies in the 1800's. They say Edgar Allen Poe probably died of rabies. He probably contracted it by having a carriage horse nibble on his sleeve or something. If you wipe your nose or eyes with your sleeve you're done for.
If you get exposed to rabies in a non-bite scenario by the time you show any symptoms you're a gonner. You can't just wait for a bite and go to the hospital. Don't count on that.
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