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HOW TO modify DP's to two way triggers... #2641906
07/11/11 10:51 PM
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Carlis PMed an apologized for being mis-informed by his attorneys. So I'm re-posting for those that requested it...


1. Cut the rivet with bolt cutters that holds the trigger and discard it.

2. Find a nail or bolt that will fit the three holes the rivet was removed from. (I drilled out the holes a hair and used a 30 penny nail)

3. clamp the dog of the trap into the vice and using the side of a small file, file a notch in the side like so (be sure its on this side of the dog)...




4. Clamp the dog in the vice so the hole is just below the top of the jaws and the notch is sticking up above the jaws. With pliers twist the end of the dog straight sideways, like so. (I heated mine with a small propane torch to insure it wouldn't crack) Be sure to twist it to the correct side....




5. Grind the tip of the piece that sticks out a little shorter so it can fall through the notch in the dog (not much).

6. reinstall the dog UPSIDE DOWN! If you reinstall it right side up it will not have room to push down to fire.

7. put a nut on (I'll tack weld mine. If you use a bolt, use a lock nut) or peen over the end so it can't go back through the holes.




Completed (minus the tack weld on the nut)...




The whole thing took like 5 min. and I wasn't hurrying.

~ADC~

Last edited by ~ADC~; 07/17/17 11:12 PM. Reason: replaced pics
Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2641917
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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2641927
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There wasnt anthing illegal about it. Would appreciate it in pms. How do you think I made my first triggers. you might be missing something that makes a big difference. You know Gary started to post several months back. I sent Cletis tubes so he could make it himself.

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Loc: SE-Central Iowa If they had the rings on the inside like yours, they should be as good but I haven't rigged up that part yet.

I think I'll make a post and show the mod, but I won't bump it unless I get a direct question on it. Just let it fade away and in a month no one will remember it probably. If I don't someone else will. I will also tell them you apologized for being misinformed, save you some face that way. About the best I can do at this point.

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Loc: Warrenton, Mo. I had a pet coon that taught me a lot. What the attorny told me was supposedly correct but its like this, what are we to do! spend all kinds of money chaseing everyone around, ye right. Dont worry I am getting plenty of positive support through Pms kinda like that goofy fart in 2 1/2 men, although who wouldnt mine having a couple pro's for girl friends.LOL! I always have plenty of beer

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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2641929
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Great re-post Jayme, you come up with some great ideas.

On the trigger mod, you should be able to make the twist without the use of a torch as the steel used is mild steel....just adding a suggestion.

Keep up the good work....

Gary


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2641962
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This is the way it should be, Some of the smartest people on this forum working together to make things better for the BROTHERHOOD OF TRAPPING

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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2641963
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Glad to see this back up! laugh


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2641974
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Nice how to do ADC, thanks.

Quick question, how far do they have to push to get it to fire? Opps, the notch will let it fall through, my bad..... Geez.... smile



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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642058
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Thanks a million ADC

Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642070
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Jayme I did a couple without heating like Getrz said and they turned out fine.




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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642074
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Glad to see things are worked out guys.


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642093
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Thanks. I will be attempting this tomorrow. Also will be my first trap mod ever. I will post on this thread or shoot ya a PM on how i did and if i have any questions.

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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642114
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Thanks Jayme another great how to post. Tom

Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642151
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Can this be archived or has it been already?

Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642165
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quote (There wasnt anthing illegal about it. Would appreciate it in pms. How do you think I made my first triggers. you might be missing something that makes a big difference. You know Gary started to post several months back. I sent Cletis tubes so he could make it himself.) quote

Glad this misunderstanding is getting worked out....Jayme did a good job of converting the triggers.....but it seems that it has been forgotten that Carlis is the first one who came up with the design and redesign of the push - pull triggers for the market.......Talked to Carlis yesterday on the phone and he told me he really didn't mind someone using his idea to mod their personal traps.....but doing it for resale was a different situation......I purchased several dozen of his replacement trigger assy......and as you know am making homebuilt dps with the ones I didn't have traps to go on........was having trouble finding 16 gauge tubing....called Carlis to find out where he was getting his tubing from......that is when he offered the ends left off of the cnc machine....so my supply problem was solved.....and during the conversation ....you better not be selling them....I told him they would be for sale when I couldn't trap any longer or the my kids sold my estate..LOL...

I am dissappointed that Jayme isn't going to jail.....was wanting to start cloning his skinning rigs.....I know he is about to retire from all of the funds he has garnered from the mfg of them..


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: Cletis Richards] #2642184
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Carlis,
Did you ever think of offering dog-only kits to those who want to do this?


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642190
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Thank you Carlis for doing the right thing. I doubt this is going to hurt your sales. The folks who want to modify their own traps is really very small compared to the whole trapping population. Most would rather buy a kit than do it themselves.



Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642191
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Nice post!


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: Paul Dobbins] #2642196
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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642207
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While you got that trigger out of there take a dremel and put some teeth on it, it will hold your bait better.


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2642553
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Im glad this has turned around as i missed the original post. Now it would b nice to have someof the cage trap makers offer the hardware(LESS THE CAGE) for the high falutin cage traps(legally)for us trappers whos means and skills, are limited....woodsmoke


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2643541
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good how-to post,thanks


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2656126
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Interesting idea Coon king. I've used tube jig bodies on mine with great results.




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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2679668
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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2679790
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Won't be long before this is on many of the DP out there out of the box any way.

Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: woodsmoke] #2679982
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Originally Posted By: woodsmoke
Im glad this has turned around as i missed the original post. Now it would b nice to have someof the cage trap makers offer the hardware(LESS THE CAGE) for the high falutin cage traps(legally)for us trappers whos means and skills, are limited....woodsmoke


somewhere there is a guy who does just this I think he goes by trapper dale ya might try googleing his name


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: Mark K] #2679992
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Originally Posted By: foxtail
Won't be long before this is on many of the DP out there out of the box any way.


Hopefully not so. At this time in Wisconsin, push-type triggered DPs are not going to meet the criteria for DPs that may be set closer to beaver dams than other traps and used as a water set for 'coon during dryland period.

Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: ~ADC~] #2680509
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Thanks aprophet, Ill check it out been running hard all day (thank god)....wodsmoke


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Re: How to modify DP's to two way triggers... [Re: woodsmoke] #2680626
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Carlis wasn't able to make it to the NTA just to busy at work,but I did order 2 dozen of your traps from MTP,my Partner Rich also bought 2 dozen at the NTA we'll try them out in Western Ks this year and Mo. and IL.....B...


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