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Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) #2892232
12/17/11 02:58 PM
12/17/11 02:58 PM
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Millville, Pennsylvania
Fairchild #17 Offline OP
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I decided to take some picture of the cross nailing method I use to bed a trap solid in peat moss because a few people have asked me about it. The heads of the nails I grabbed were a little bigger than the others I had, so I used the head of the nail to grab the spring pin in the front and back of the pan. This actually worked quite well and I think I'm using it from now on.
This is by far the quickest and easiest method I've found to bed a trap in all conditions. Todays condition was mud...everywhere I went, but this works equally as well in frozen ground too.
All right, let's get on with it......

This set is a moderate step down dirt hole, but I use the same technique at all sets I make.

Dig yourself a bowl shaped bed as close to the shape of the trap as possible



Add a handful of peat to the bowl and a good helping of salt for antifreeze.



Stake and place the trap in the trap bed. Notice the pan is not leveled yet. This allows me to pack the peat and work inside the jaws without fear of the trap firing.
The 40D Galvanized spikes are in place and ready to be driven against the spring pin. See my handy-dandy nail set in the last pic.





The nails are tapped into place and a wad of polyfil is placed under the pan. (The pan is still not set)



I then start adding sifted peat moss and pack it down with the palm of my hand. I add a little salt in layers as I go. (Pan still isn't set)



Once I'm satisfied with the shape of the dirt pattern I'll go ahead and put my right thumb on the dog and lower the pan with my left thumb and forefinger. I'm in complete control of the trap firing as long as my thumb is on the dog. (I thougt I took a picture of the pan leveled into the nightlatch and the ready to fire, but I guess I didn't. Use your imagination.)


Here is the finished set and a view of the location. A "T" in a farm road at the corner of a thicket. I never set this farm before today, but I've got high hopes for it.




Works great when the ground freezes up and you're using peat moss to bed in.








Here is a link to show how much extra time it takes me to power bed a trap using this method.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQmhnj4KDK8&feature=youtu.be

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/Pigjigger/media/Makingaset_zps6ac9303d.mp4.html

Last edited by Fairchild #17; 08/24/13 04:17 PM.

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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892320
12/17/11 04:18 PM
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I like it!!!!!! Going to give it a try tomorrow. Thanks!!!!

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892400
12/17/11 05:23 PM
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seems a bit excessive to me...but thats my opinion....



Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892422
12/17/11 05:46 PM
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It looks great going to try it thanks for the pics

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892455
12/17/11 06:04 PM
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Thanks good to see how others do their thing.

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892673
12/17/11 07:51 PM
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Looks good peat can be hard to get a solid bed.

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892699
12/17/11 08:00 PM
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Very nice! Do you do anything to the spikes as far as scent control...dying waxing etc or is the galvanized coating all you need?

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892794
12/17/11 08:43 PM
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Why not flip the loose jaw up to set the pan,then put it down and finish bedding it?Just saying,it is hard to get out of a trap with both thumbs stuck in it.LOL

You can use wooden dowels the same way...
Good post...


Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: aaron32] #2892809
12/17/11 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: aaron32
seems a bit excessive to me...but thats my opinion....



A bit excessive??? For crying out loud, how much more simple do you want?
I'll absolutely guarantee I can slap in two of these sets before you could get done stabilizing just one in a 100% peat moss bed with any other method of your choice. Somebody told me Jim Cundiff wrote an entire book on the subject, and this is excessive? In soft ground these sets can be dug, bedded, and baited in under a minute.
Sure you can twist the trap down and throw a bucket of peat moss on it, but it is not bedded solid.
In a step down it may not matter so much, but this works for all sets across the board.

I don't know, I swear some guys would argue with a possum.

Last edited by Number17; 12/17/11 09:00 PM.

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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892811
12/17/11 08:55 PM
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Millville, Pennsylvania
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I don't do anything to treat the nails.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: CLT] #2892816
12/17/11 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: CLT
Why not flip the loose jaw up to set the pan,then put it down and finish bedding it?Just saying,it is hard to get out of a trap with both thumbs stuck in it.LOL

You can use wooden dowels the same way...
Good post...


Because you don't have control of the dog by flipping the loose jaw up. My right thumb controls the dog, therefor controlling the trap. Just flipping the loose jaw could let the trap get away from you.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892817
12/17/11 08:58 PM
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You can't argue with a possum! I tried.
The dumb suckers just smile back at ya with a stupid look on their face. (Much like a woman). smile


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It's called Tomorrow
Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892818
12/17/11 08:58 PM
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I have Jim's book and have always thought it was a great idea. Thanks #17. Good post.I have other methods I use in peat but have never been happy with them in flat sets. I may just give this a try.




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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892823
12/17/11 08:59 PM
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N17,some guys think they should be able to set the trap and just lay it on the ground.Anything more than that and it's "excessive".LOL
Like I said before,good post...


Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892854
12/17/11 09:14 PM
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Millville, Pennsylvania
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I see what you're saying now CLT about flipping the jaw, but doing everything else the same. Possibly a little safer, but I've actually never had a trap fire on me yet like this.
The other problem with lifting the loose jaw is that some material may fall into the gap between the bottom of the jaw and the lever, and disallow the loose jaw to settle back down into place. In other words, the loose jaw may not lay flat.

I've actually found sometimes that I have a build up of wax in the nigthlatch. I can work the dog back and forth to clean out the wax during the final step. You have that much control with the dog.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892870
12/17/11 09:20 PM
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I like it! Looks like a fast and easy way to stabilize..I've had troubles with peat before, I'm gonna give this a try. .

Thanks for the post!

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892890
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N17. Thanks for the post! I have had a hard time visualizing that set with the stabilization. Pictures say it all. Thanks a million.

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892897
12/17/11 09:32 PM
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here's one for ya. 3 in one. stabilizer, base plate and center swivels around pin!


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: yoteguts] #2892910
12/17/11 09:38 PM
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number17 i will GUARANTEE you that you couldnt set a trap from start to finished set in under a minute even in soft ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!all im saying is those spikes arent needed to stabilize that trap...if you would use the sides of the bed to pinch those jaws tight and bend your spring pins down to create 2 legs for the trap to sit on it would be 99% stabilized already....i have used peat for atleast 15 years and have never had any trouble getting a trap to bed solid even in rock hard frozen conditions....

but when the ground is workable i do indeed prefer the step down set....

im not busting on you for your post...it will help alota people out...and im not arguing with you....which is why i put the IMO after what i have said....your post was very informative for those that needed to see it before they understood it....

Last edited by aaron32; 12/17/11 09:40 PM.


Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2892948
12/17/11 09:54 PM
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I wish I had a cameraman today. I had an old fella ask me to make a coyote set ontop a field behind his house so he could see it from his window in the morning to "check it" for me.
I said OK, but we got to boogy because I've got to get home. We jumped in the truck and headed out across the field.
After I slapped one in the ground he just said, "Son, my God you can move". I'm guessing that set was easily under 1 minute and might as well be bedded in stone.
I've got a guy riding along tomorrow so I'll see if we can make a video. Wanna make a $10,000 Romney bet on your guarantee??? I'll smoke one in the ground in under a minute and have time to smile at the camera and give you the thumbs up at the end.

Aaron, I do like your drivers though. Very nice. I might order a few for my breakaway conduit stakes that you don't like either.


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