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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893010
12/17/11 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Number17
I wish I had a cameraman today. I had an old fella ask me to make a coyote set ontop a field behind his house so he could see it from his window in the morning to "check it" for me.
I said OK, but we got to boogy because I've got to get home. We jumped in the truck and headed out across the field.
After I slapped one in the ground he just said, "Son, my God you can move". I'm guessing that set was easily under 1 minute and might as well be bedded in stone.
I've got a guy riding along tomorrow so I'll see if we can make a video. Wanna make a $10,000 Romney bet on your guarantee??? I'll smoke one in the ground in under a minute and have time to smile at the camera and give you the thumbs up at the end.

Aaron, I do like your drivers though. Very nice. I might order a few for my breakaway conduit stakes that you don't like either.


like i said man...theres no way you can get your stuff out of the truck off the 4 wheeler or what ever walk over to the set dig your dirt hole,trap bed,drive your disposable bed your trap,pack it in,cover your trap,and lure/bait it in under a min....

im not talking lay all your stuff out at that very spot before you start timing yourself....but yeah it would be good to see so go ahead and get a video and lets see how long it takes you....

thanks for the comment on my drivers...i do like to sell stuff that ive used and tested myself to make sure they hold up....



Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893043
12/17/11 10:53 PM
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I stated this:
"In soft ground these sets can be dug, bedded, and baited in under a minute."

So you said this:
"I will GUARANTEE you that you couldnt set a trap from start to finished set in under a minute even in soft ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

So I offered this:
"I'll smoke one in the ground in under a minute and have time to smile at the camera and give you the thumbs up at the end."

And somehow we're here?:
"like i said man...theres no way you can get your stuff out of the truck off the 4 wheeler or what ever walk over to the set dig your dirt hole,trap bed,drive your disposable bed your trap,pack it in,cover your trap,and lure/bait it in under a min...."

I was only talking this:
".... dig your dirt hole,trap bed,drive your disposable bed your trap,pack it in,cover your trap,and lure/bait it in under a min...."

I'll still try to do it under a minute, tailgate to tailgate like I'm at somekind of daggon rodeo, but you're not getting a smile at the end now.


Nowadays it just don't pay to be a good 'ol boy.
Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893333
12/18/11 05:41 AM
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That's a good trick to have in one's arsenal 17, thanks for the detailed post. I always worry when I have to mix onsite dirt with the peat to get it to stabilize even with salt.

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893371
12/18/11 07:06 AM
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Just a quick question. WHERE are the nails once you catch a critter and the trap site is all tore up? If a farmer runs one of those lost nails through a tractor tire he might just get agitated.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893376
12/18/11 07:18 AM
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I've posted in many PMs about using caution with the nails in farm country. In two years I have not had a nail leave the trap bed. When the trap fires they stay right in place because they barely catch the frame or spring pin, and the sudden jump of the trap sheds the nails.
I carry a heavy magnet just in case I have to go looking for a stray.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893378
12/18/11 07:19 AM
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Makes Sense.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893435
12/18/11 08:57 AM
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I just tested this with an MB650 and it works like a dream. I have used 3 dowel rods outside the jaws before with mixed results but the two 40 penny nails works!

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893733
12/18/11 11:57 AM
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why bother with this stuff. when it gets cold, icy,snowy, etc predators dont care about that stuff. not the same when winter trapping verses fall trapping. you dont need all this. get out there and try and set it as firm as you can and it will be fine...the trap will tell you how it wants to set in frozen ground.and besides you cant bed a trap in peat or hulls anyway.why would you want to argue over nails...its all preference....

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2893934
12/18/11 02:27 PM
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CLT, can I borrow the top line of your signature for a quick reply?

Aaron, I failed miserably. I only tried speed setting once and it took me 1 minute 39 seconds. I did video it, but I tried 3 times to upload to photobucket and it failed each time. Oh well, I loose.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2894020
12/18/11 03:30 PM
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17 when doing videos of any size its better to use you tube....its all good tho....



Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2895419
12/19/11 08:33 AM
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Thanks for posting will try it with some peat moss .

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2895629
12/19/11 11:28 AM
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Pete moss is the way to go for me as well good post instead of nails I have been using prey cut sticks, but I like the nail idea got a whole box of them that size this old dog learned a new trick thanks.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2897041
12/19/11 10:25 PM
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Thanks for the tip, it's pretty slick. Reset a couple yesterday and had a catch this morning and the nails were just where I put them. The dirt raked into the hole seems to help protect the nails positioning. Keep up the good work and let the nay sayers say what they will.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2897341
12/20/11 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: Otter04
why bother with this stuff.......you cant bed a trap in peat or hulls anyway.


I've had tons of PMs pouring in from guys having good results. Awesome, I'm glad it's working for you guys. It has to really, it's simple and fool proof.
Many have tried the wooden dowel method but like this much better because you can literally drive the trap to the ground.
Lots of happy campers out there now bedding ROCK SOLID in peat. Anyone try doing it with hulls yet? Have you done the impossible?? LOL wink


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2897353
12/20/11 05:10 AM
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Where's the coal shale commitee? Busy making waxed dirt?

Going to be pretty tough to bend down the spring pin on that trap pictured.

Mixing peat with soil defeats the purpose. It will draw moisture just like greenhouse soil mix.

AAron, you say you chop the bed tight. (me too) How do you deal with the remake when bed edges are blown out? Ever have that tight bed shrink from frost heave? I deal with the same crap.

In dry stay cold climate many things will work. In many of our Pa areas of freeze thaw frost daily, you have to improvise like 17 did to stay working.

Waxed dirt is expensive to make. Frozen traps are expensive to check.

Raining on frosted mud right now. We should all just take a bus South. Or, make hay sets lol.

Many have different conditions and techniques. Nice to "see outside your own lines".





Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2897364
12/20/11 05:42 AM
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You can get waxed dirt free from ant hills, they do a nice job of waxing every granule.

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2897418
12/20/11 06:59 AM
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I used to have those ant hills all over the place around here and would borrow the dirt once in a while during the winter. I often thought that was part of their demise because the completely disappeared. It had to have been something on a Grander scale though because I know one stretch of Interstate that used to be just lined up with these ant towers, miles and miles of them, and they seemed to have disappeared as well. Mabey a fungus, virus, bacteria....who knows.
It was very nice pre-sifted dirt to work with though.


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Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Wright Brothers] #2897527
12/20/11 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Wright Brothers


AAron, you say you chop the bed tight. (me too) How do you deal with the remake when bed edges are blown out? Ever have that tight bed shrink from frost heave? I deal with the same crap.



yup jeff i have...i just mound up the loose stuff so its higher than the trap...and if there isnt any loose stuff i go get me some frozen chunks....but after a hard freeze up i go to drags alot so i dont have that problem much....



Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2897617
12/20/11 09:56 AM
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Cool looking idea if bedding in 100% peat. I trap in the south where I can normally throw a handfull of peat on top of the dug out hole and still bed solid before covering with peat. My question is when using all the salt how do you keep it from rusting your chain/trap after a couple of catches. Again, I'm from the south where we don't need anti freeze but just curious how it affects you. Thanks!

Re: Bedding in Peat Moss (Pictorial) [Re: Fairchild #17] #2898099
12/20/11 02:49 PM
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When it gets to where I have to go 100% peat I do exactly what #17 shows, and I agree with his statement that while there is the extra step of putting in the nails, I can still get the job done quicker AND better than trying to get the trap rock solid in staright peat. Right now it's been freezing at night but plenty warm during the day, so I'm using the local dirt to bed with a good dose of salt, cover with peat, top of with a THIN layer of local dirt with salt to keep the wind from blowing all the peat moss away....been wet and cold last two weeks - no misses, 33 catches........but at BEST, I'm at a set for 5 min on the initial set and maybe 3 minutes on the remake......#17 you are A LOT faster than I'll ever be....Salt and peat moss......cures alot of natures nastiest nights. I'm in the same type of conditions that Wright Brothers describes freeze thaw freeze thaw, rain freeze etc. Dublelung asks about rust....most of the ground I work is on two week rotations so a trap is in the ground dealing with the salt for two weeks.....while waxed real well, it does as you say get a pretty good cleaning each catch ...but in two weeks it's out, washed, cleaned and re-waxed. At the end of the year I clean all traps with a salt remover before I put them up.


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