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natural posts/trail sets more pics +catch added #2962361
01/21/12 10:49 AM
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I ran across a natural post today and was going to throw a set in and I figured I would take some pics and post them up.I don't usually do these types of posts but thought I would give it a shot.This is a sure fire thing pretty much for a coyote or fox.
The post,you can see where the coyote walked up and peed on the side of the stump.You can also see the spot where it/they stepped the most.An added bonus here is that it is pretty much a walk through without having to change anything.It is feet off the edge of a four wheeler trail that I have been driving for a few days.

Little more of a over view to show the "spot"

Snow removed down to bare ground just big enough to fit the trap.The key is to disturb it as little as possible.

Peat added,tamped down,a little more loose then bed the trap,I don't worry to much about the trap being 100% solid for this type of set.You rely on some guiding to get them to step where you want.Get it as solid as possible but a little movement won't kill you here if you use guiding properly.

Jaws filled in and the rest brought just level with snow,about 1/4 inch of covering,maybe a hair more,a couple twigs for guiding guarding the levers and dog.You don't need to go nuts but the best place to step has to be the pan of course.I just use stuff right on hand that looks as natural as possible.They have to be tall enough though that if you get a dusting of snow they aren't buried.

Sifted snow,just enough to cover so the peat isn't visible.I use a finger tip and make a mark right on the pan to represent where it stepped before then sift a touch more snow over it to finish.

Then a stick dipped in gland lure tucked into the stump between loose bark and wood and a couple drops of pee,not a whole lot.I just drip a couple drops on the wood and a couple around on the snow pretty much where the pee already was.After luring I concealed the chain and brushed out my tracks with a big evergreen branch.I did everything from the side and didn't disturb the trail other than where the trap was placed,which I placed where it wanted to step.

This particular trap is on a drag,hopefully after a catch it can be reset.I hope this helps some folks that wonder about natural posts and how to set them.The snow is a help because it shows you the best spot to put the trap.If you drive by this type of stuff and don't set it you are missing a great opportunity to catch an animal you might have missed otherwise.You do not have to add the gland and urine but this time of year I like to because basically I don't think it hurts.If anyone would like to add to this feel free...




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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2962408
01/21/12 11:40 AM
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Great post thanks!


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2962429
01/21/12 11:55 AM
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Great post! I'm going to try it. Thanks for sharing.

Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2963100
01/21/12 07:42 PM
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Very natural looking set CLT, thanks for posting.

Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2963611
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Thanks CLT !












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Thanks CLT !












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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2963636
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awsome post i think archives


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2964719
01/22/12 02:44 PM
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Thanks guys.I hope that it helps someone...


Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2966339
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Good post CLT, thank you


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2966431
01/23/12 10:01 AM
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Good Looking Set

Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2988068
02/02/12 11:33 AM
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I am on a new property and have been there for 3 days.The first day I dumped some carcass material from a butchered cow in a thick brush patch and beat down a trail into it from a 4 wheeler path.This morning I saw sign going in and out so I put in a trail set.It was warm for 2 days and we had some melt but a cold snap last night froze stuff back up tight.

First I picked a spot on the trail,we have to be back 15 feet I am closer to 20 here.Notice the concentration of tracks.As with the post set above that is where I want my pan,they already are stepping there so use that to your advantage.

Trap bed dug down through layer of snow and ice to solid ground which is frozen solid and trap inserted,notice I used a long spring, easy to get solid in these situations.

Peat added and brought as level as possible.Some might notice the trap bed is larger than it needs to be,I was going to put in 2 traps but decided against it in the end,I didn't want to waste a trap that could be put to use somewhere else.I am running low on clean traps,that played into it also.

Guides added.Just grab stuff from around you that is natural.

Finished with more peat and a thin layer of snow through sifter and a couple turds between the springs,actually one on the inside edge of each spring to help guard them and up close to the dog.Chain was also blended in,just pushed down into snow or grass and blended.The drag is just tossed up into the brush off to the left.It is hard to see in the pic but I put an indent over the pan before sifting the snow then after,I use my "scratcher" and just push it down enough to leave a "foot print"..


Again,I hope this helps anyone who wonders about setting up trails or setting on sign.When I was leaving it was snowing slightly,we are supposed to get a dusting this afternoon and that will help blend it in further.I have a hole set in the area also,about 30 feet away on another edge of the brush also but try to wait until I have solid sign.Normally I would have put in a couple traps since there was another trail but I usually only set the ones they are leaving on and so far they or it, are only going in on one and leaving on one so I left one open.For those who wonder about speed less than five minutes even taking pics.


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2988400
02/02/12 03:33 PM
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Thanks CLT, great post. I just have one question if you don't mind me asking, Why do you only set the trails they are using when they are leaving? Are they less suspicious?

Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2988442
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I believe they are not as high strung leaving as when they come in.They are on guard coming in more relaxed after eating or more concerned with the chunk of meat or bone in their mouth.I have read that in books and from posts on snaring on here and had good trappers give that advice and also observed it for myself.Do I always follow it 100% of the time,probably not because without snow it can be hard to tell.Notice in the pics that show tracks they are all going the same way?Same thing with the trail leaving...
One thing about these set ups,you can often get away with a miss or pinched toe,just move the trap to another spot in the trail.


Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2988449
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Thanks again CLT. I think I got the basics down know I need to work on the details.

Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: somerset] #2988730
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Thanks! This sure helped me.


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2989763
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Nice set CLT, you make it look easy. Don't forget to show us pics when these sets connect!


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #2989767
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Thanks for sharing that, great ideas.


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: Snuffy] #2990011
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Originally Posted By: Snuffy
Nice set CLT, you make it look easy. Don't forget to show us pics when these sets connect!

I will.The post set I showed first sat 2 days then we had a melt.I remade it and caught a porcupine then I pulled off the property to get on a new piece.If I had more time there I am confident it would have connected.The trail set should end in a pic,probably in the next couple days...


Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #3007285
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I have taken 2 coyotes in the second set pictured.The first one I unfortunately did not have my phone so no pic in the trap.After the catch I changed out the trap,same drag same trap bed.
I actually missed the one pictured in a hole probably 200 yards away,trap out of the bed tight on the chain but no real sign of a struggle,then followed the track that left that set down the field 200 yards and right into the trail set pictured.It walked past another hole and a flat set to get caught in the trail going into a bait pile.

Drag up in the bushes.

It ended up being a peg leg,looks like someone took a poke at it with a rifle to me.Fairly healthy looking otherwise other than rubbed up somewhat up around the shoulders.


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Re: natural posts setting them up [Re: CLT] #3008697
02/11/12 09:57 PM
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Very nice tutorial. I don't trap canines at all, but I like this post. I suggest you write an article and submit it to a trapping magazine. I see lots of articles about the dirthole, but sets in the snow are seldom seen in the mags I read.

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