Two Years Ago Today....
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05/26/12 11:30 AM
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Robb Russell
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Kirk LapierreBorn-Aug 21, 1959 Died May 26, 2010 Two Years Ago today this industry lost a very special friend who impacted many lives including my own. Kirk Lapierre , few of his friends agreed with him all of the time but most of us agreed with him most of the time. Upon his death as a favor to the family I compiled a web site of all the media he share with me on The Wildlife Pro Network. Kirk was all about educating and his podcasts and videos are some of the most popular media Sites By Robb has online today. His last act before he passed was driving in the 11th hour to Washington DC and delivering our concerns to the City Commissioners of Washington DC. The problem today in DC still looms over this industry and Kirk was an early proponent of stopping HSUS dead in their tracks http://www.anytimewildlifecontrol.com/profiles/blogs/in-memory-of-kirk-lapierreSome of these videos have taught many of us how to make money using his techniques. How To Properly Remove A Bat From A Homehttp://kirklapierre.com/bats-in-a-room-removal-a-kirk-lapierre-video/Squirrel Capture in a Passaic County New Jersey Basementhttp://kirklapierre.com/squirrel-capture...lapierre-video/12 Dead Birds Removed From A Office Wall Spacehttp://kirklapierre.com/dead-bird-and-dead-animal-removal-video/How To Make A Ventilator Cover – Kirk Lapierre Videohttp://kirklapierre.com/how-to-make-a-ventilator-cover-kirk-lapierre-video/
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Re: Two Years Ago Today....
[Re: Robb Russell]
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05/26/12 09:49 PM
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Robb Russell
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Partial TRANSCRIPT OF WpN TALKCAST SITES BY ROBB'S THE WILDLIFE PRO NETWORK'S PODCAST ARCHIVED MARCH 23, 2011 KIRK LAPIERRE TIPS AND EXPERIENCES ON CANADA GEESE MANAGEMENT ROUNDUPS HARASSMENT ADDLING
I have the entire 1 hour and fourty three minute podcast transcribed by a real world court reporter. I will probably be releasing this in its entirety later on this year to help his widow, Aileen Lapierre, CWCP
Here are a few words straight from his mouth: Robb Russell : How much geese work do you do, Kirk? Kirk Lapierre : We're pretty much dedicated -- Robb Russell : I mean, I know you talked about it, but a percentage-wise? Kirk Lapierre : -- all summer. As far as income goes, probably about 25 percent of our business. Robb Russell : Yeah? Kirk Lapierre : Yeah, because it's chunky money. You know, I coined that term a long time ago. I like those kind of jobs that pay a big fee for a -- I don't mean for a less effort, but I mean for a fast service. Like I can do several round-ups in one day and basically make a month's income, you know, compared to when you're talking about squirrels and raccoons and all that. Robb Russell : Right. Kirk Lapierre : It's a good market for it. But we switched our business strictly to round-ups. We don't do the harassment anymore. We retired the dogs and sold off all the other equipment or gave it away, so it's just strictly round-ups now. Robb Russell : How do you convince the people that they need to round them up? Kirk Lapierre : They contact us when they've been through everything else. When they've done all the happy nonsense from Geese Peace and they've spent the tens and tens of thousands of dollars on all the harassment techniques only to have their geese still there or to come back once they're done, and that's -- we service them at their point of frustration. You know, and we don't even try to advertise or prospect them. We're pretty much known that we're a company that will take them out. You know, all the other companies are still trying to sell harassment, and they are. And you know, we've had jobs that have gone for four or five years with doing harassment until they finally either get a new mayor or a new CEO or a new homeowner president, you know, or something like that that says enough is enough. Look at the books. It usually comes down to a financial thing. You know, their problem is not 100 percent resolved, if at all, and they want an end to it. Mike Flick : I'm going to try that goose round-up thing this year in San Diego and Los Angeles with feral peacocks. Mike Flick : How do you round up geese? How do you round them up basically? I mean, is this a call or is this like a corralling and netting?
Kirk Lapierre : If you guys don't mind changing the subject, I know you were on exclusion, I wouldn't mind talking about geese. Mike Flick : Talk about geese. Talk. Kirk Lapierre : Okay. There's the basics for the round-ups. The basics comes down to this: You can do it -- the majority of the time that it's done is during the summer molt, June through -- mid June through mid July. The geese loose their flight feathers and they're grounded. Robb Russell : Right. Kirk Lapierre : And then you just round them up like cattle. You know, it's -- Mike Flick : That's what I do with mallard ducks here. Kirk Lapierre : Sure. And it can be done with muscovy. It can be done with -- Mike Flick : Right. Kirk Lapierre : I've even seen it done with, you know, with domestic ducks, and there was one of the guys here in Jersey even did it with a bunch of roosters that were roosting on a property, you know, a several-acre property of woods and was able to corral up a bunch of roosters that were waking up everybody every day. The thing with geese is you can do it when they're flying too, it's just a much slower process. You can't spook them because they don't want to fly. Mike Flick : Right. Kirk Lapierre : They would much rather be on the ground. But the general way of doing round-ups is during the molt, and that's the highest time of the year to do it and what's nice is because you need a crew of people that are dedicated to doing it, and if you can put together a week or even two weeks like we like to do of nothing but round-ups and you don't schedule any other type of work, you can keep your crew during that period, than trying to break it up, you know, can I do one this week, can I do one next week, and to get those people back together again, because we like to work with other companies and folks that are, let's say they may even work part-time for the government or something, or we'll use the staff of the town, their maintenance staff, et cetera, so we can get those jobs scheduled all in that short period of time. The two secrets to rounding up is be where you don't want them to go. In other words, form a human wall. And it doesn't take much, flapping your arms, waiving your hat, you know, just being in front of them. If you don't want them to go a certain way, be there. Now, if you do want them to go somewhere, don't be there. So their corral would be the point of exit for them. They see right through the netting, so they don't realize that it's a physical structure that's going to confine them. I've seen people make mistakes and back their trailers right up to those corrals. You know, to them that's like walking into a building. They're not going to go anywhere near the corral. So it's completely clear. Nobody can be around it. And you just get to the sides and behind them and shoo them, you know. They speak in a sign language very similar to let's say wolves and all dog species. You know, there is certain hand signals and body movements, head movements, arm movements that they recognize as part of their language, so if you can imitate that -- and there is literature that's out there and we have that, too, that we can put out for the industry if you'd ever like to see it that the geese more or less do understand. And going slow, when you bend over they get a little more panicked because it looks more like a predatory move. Putting your arms out, again, is a more of an aggressive predatory move and they'll move even quicker, you know, or they'll do what you want them to do that way. Making a lot of noise, moving very quickly will only spook them and then you'll get what's called a break, and that's the worst thing that can happen to you, when they split and instead of following that mob mentality and following the leader, they'll break and run in every direction. So you just take it very slow. You be where you don't want them to go. You know where your corral is and you surround them until you get to the point where they're committed to following their leader who is making a B-line for that corral area. And once they get in there and they start hitting that netting, the rest of them will just -- you know, it's a dog pile on a rabbit at that point. They just all pile in and everybody has their own specific job, their own specific area. Some folks are in the back that are ready just to catch any ones that may run, you know, that do break away. Some folks -- one person in particular is assigned to closing the gate on the corral. So everybody knows what their job is beforehand, but it's very easy to teach people how to do it. And once they're in the corral, you know, at that point then they can be removed from the corral and put into the trailers. Mike Flick : So how thick and how high and what do you make the corral out of?
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Re: Two Years Ago Today....
[Re: Robb Russell]
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06/07/12 03:04 PM
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Dave Schmidt
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One of a kind. Kirk poured more of his time and efforts into this industry than most of us will ever know.
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Re: Two Years Ago Today....
[Re: Robb Russell]
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06/12/12 02:52 PM
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Robb Russell
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Two years ago this Friday my good friend Bob Evans passed away. He did 100 or so podcasts for The Wildlife Pro Network. Like Kirk Lapierre, Bob Evans was one of my mentors who passed just 2 weeks after one another. The reason there ever was a Wildlife Pro Network was because of Bob Evans, CWCP and his generous time and guidance for making sure NWCO's had access on the internet to subject matter experts willing to share their knowledge about topics related to nuisance wildlife control and bee removal. He was saying back in 2006 that it was time for no more black eyes for animal trapping industry and seen a need to get the right guidance for an industry that many believed was full of questionable, rogue characters. It was The Wildlife Pro Network's mission then to educate and get the right word out. Bob was one of our first teachers who was a regular in the first two and one half years of our podcasts. It was a big blow to lose both Bob and Kirk so close together. I had some interesting podcasts following their deaths one of them was something like "sipping whiskey and talking moles". The whole podcast program had a big hole ripped through it when these two guys passed on. I am thankful today for the help and guidance from David McLeod, David Schmidt, Mike Flick and a very involved teacher Ron Jones who is running the National Wildlife Control Training Podcasts for the rest of this year. http://www.anytimewildlifecontrol.com/page/bob-evans-cwcp-1944-2010
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Re: Two Years Ago Today....
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06/12/12 11:03 PM
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trapperpaw
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I never new Bob but he looks and sounds like an individual and I like indiviauals. Robb thanks for all of your contributions to this industry and your fellow man. You have become an individual yourself.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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