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FLAT SET - The No.1 flat set I use is: #350303
09/27/07 11:39 AM
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While photo's would be great, describe ( or show us) your best flat set that you use to take canines or cats. wink

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #350392
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Rock Set

Many trappers use rocks as a backing for their sets. The thing I have noticed is they tend to use much too large of a rock. A large rock that the animal cannot move after it is caught may result in a broken leg when the animal wraps the chain and trap around the rock.

My rock set is a bit different than most, because I like to use baseball to grapefruit sized rocks but no larger. My rock needs to have one side that is flat so it cannot be rolled over by a pawing fox or coyote. I also like my rock either white, light gray or orange for added eye appeal, but any rock will do. I always chop out my trap bed and bed my trap solidly before I place my backing (for flat and post sets) or dig my hole (for dirtholes). After I have my trap bedded I position my backing or hole so that the dog of the trap is at the 1 o’clock position. (For foxes I like the trap right up next to the backing, for coyotes I like it 3-4 inches farther back.) After I have my rock in position I cover my trap with dry dirt and blend it in.

I have two ways of making finalizing this set. One is to take a small piece of bait or fur and stick it under the rock so just a little piece sticks out toward the trap. Then I may add some lure if I used fur, but if I use bait I do nothing else. The other way to finish this set is to punch a hole with a stake right at the base of the rock in front of the trap. I then put lure (usually curiosity or food type) in the hole. (If I used curiosity lure I give a squirt or urine on top of the rock.)

This is a very simple, very quick set to make, has low theft rate and will pile up the foxes for you.

Last edited by MikeTraps2; 09/27/07 02:32 PM.

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: MikeTraps2] #350480
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Chair? Did he mean the chain? How long is your chain set-up, Mike traps2?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #350525
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I fixed my spelling mistakes \:\)

trap swivel - 1 link of chain (double loop) or 2 links machine chain - box swivel - 1 link double loop or 2 links machine chain - then finish with a box swivel.

I rig them short and rig the end swivel so I can use the traps for water sets on drowning wires.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: MikeTraps2] #350697
09/27/07 04:47 PM
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Got'cha! I use a much longer chain set-up...to each his own.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #350742
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Just the way I was taught to rig them. I never had any problems with them rigged that way, and as I said this way the serve double duty on the water line as well \:\)


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: MikeTraps2] #351689
09/28/07 11:07 AM
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Yep, I've used a lot of rocks too...very natural.
I learned from John K. Smith one of his "secret rock post sets", that he used to catch a lot of fox in the bounty days.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #351699
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My favorite flat set is a grass tuff, or similar object, with a pile (several) fresh droppings up against it. No lure or urine. This is set along a travel way.

On dried droppings, I rehydrate with rain water, in a glass jar.

I will sometimes use some gland lure and/or urine at this set during fur season but not when doing ADC spring/summer coyote work. ;\)

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #362487
10/08/07 01:28 AM
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A natural clump is my favorite or main item for flat sets, but with atleast one lure at clump.T.20

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Tactical.20] #362587
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I like an off color piece of wood with urine and or gland. Anything that sticks out like white birch or a small piece of chared wood. Size wise is between the size of a fist or two.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: shorthair] #362642
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Yeah, haven't heard anyone mention charred wood. I use it.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #362679
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Burnt grass set.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Billfrank] #362851
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......and it burns, burns, burns...
the ring o' fire, the ring o' fire... ;\)

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #362858
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Yeah Billfrank...that's a good one! How big of a wad do you ball up?

Ever use the burnt hide one? I use a piece of dried deer hide tacked down...nothing like the smell of burnt hair! ha! \:\)




Because a guy in Alaska is obsessed with my spelling.

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #362864
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I use it for remakes, Smooth out the catch circle and find a good clump of grass 12" or so tall and dig it up and "plant" it in the middle of the catch circle. I then with a squirt bottle of urine ready set the grass on fire and let it burn for a few seconds and put it out with a couple of mists of urine.Make flat set there using burnt grass as a backing.


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\:\) !!!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #363405
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 Originally Posted By: LT GREY

On dried droppings, I rehydrate with rain water, in a glass jar.


We thought for sure you were going to tell us that you "just put a little pinch between your cheek and gum" to rehydrate.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Mister ED] #363609
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I do mine similiar to miketraps2 in most cases. I normally use a gland lure under the edge of the rock. But I don't always use a rock, I use whatever is close by to grab. Normally a rock or chunk of wood. Location is the biggest factor, you need to be right on the spot.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: trapwv] #366055
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Rocks are harder to move and can't be dragged off or picked up and carried away, like a piece of wood.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #421606
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Any trappers making flat sets out there and want to post them?
I'm sure we'd all like to see them, as well as the results!

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 Originally Posted By: LT GREY
grass tuff,????


Yeah Billfrank...that's a good one! How big of a wad to you ball up?

Ever use the burnt hide one? I use a piece if dried deer hide tacked down...nothing like the smell of burnt hair! ha! \:\)


if you are going to be the spelling police, start in your posts..

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......OK then...How big of a wad "DO" YOU ball up?...."OF" Deer Hair.

OK, we got it!

Note: These sets don't work well in snow!

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Been using a beat in impression into the ground covered with chopped grass, no dirt. Has worked well in the rainy mess we're in. The ground is water saturated in many places.

Flat set: Fresh droppings and a bit of call or gland, up against a grass tuff...sometimes urine, sometimes not.

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i like a light or dark color medium size rock ... if at all possible just something with a bit of contrast ... works for me!

generaly always setting for fox as my target, but pick up most everything ... million dollar double shown in picture lol \:\)

i use a vic 1.75 bedded and set back no more than about a inch or so ... lure or urine placed on side/bottom edge of rock towards trap (trap placement is determined by prevailing wind direction, but it don't hurt to set up two sets allowing for a change in the wind)


Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: ] #480988
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When ya'll use the charred wood do you bring it with you or is it something that is already there? Does it matter?


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: remmag7mm] #481282
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I met an experienced, female canine trapper a couple of years ago who used charred wood for backing at her flat sets. She made them and took them with her on location.

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thanks


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: remmag7mm] #485245
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you guys forgot the T bone set too. or cow skull and stick the lure up in nose cavity

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I always bring in my charred wood...in fact I am always on the lookout for a piece of tree or old root that will come in handy once burnt.

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 Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I always bring in my charred wood...in fact I am always on the lookout for a piece of tree or old root that will come in handy once burnt.


I make my own charred wood blocks by the dozen and use them all the time, today I had 3 toated off, never found them. It happens every once in awhile but 3 in one night...........


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Dang Billfrank did you forget the trap? Should have had 1003. \:\)

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #532946
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since we are talking about flat sets, please tell us why you choose a specific location, what do you think the reason the target catch will come to that location. Also. I have somewhere in the neighbor hood of about 18" of snow. So how do you make your flat sets? do you dig down to dirt, or make it ontop of the snow? if you have any pictures of flat sets where there is snow would help get the idea.

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I wouldn't use a flat set in that much snow....I'd use a post set...something that really stuck out along a line of travel. You would need something that caught the coyote's eye. I use these in conjuction with large baits in that much snow!

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TTT.. This one has been dead awhile..lol


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Has been dead for a while. If we're gonna keep it going I like to use whatever is avalible at the set. I'll have to give the charred wood a try.


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i like two rocks trap in between medium sized use lure on the inside near the bottom of each rock for me it is a killer set

as well as bones etc anything thatl stick out for me i like to use my favorite flat set is anythign i can smear a good gland of loud lure to and set a trap on front of it ......simple rub set even go as far as to put a lil food type lure under the rock and stick a lil wool so it stickes out just a bit

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There i said it....
Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: TravC] #1870360
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I'm a wood man. Big chunk of stump. cut fire wood half or one of the angle cut pieces. During fall.. set one trap 6 inches back. During winter set two traps 6-8 inches back. Attractors urine, glands or dab of call lure underneath. Excellent set in the winter IF the snow doesn't pile up over it....lol I'm sure thats why LT doesn't prefer it during that time frame. Still, it does have its place under conifers were the ground seldom freezes and there is a bit of a snow block.

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Can barely chip out a trap bed in the Winter sure ain't going to DIG out a dirthole. In the Fall its a great change up and if a flat set jumps out at me..aka a natural one I set it up.

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I have a old piece of charred cedar,kinda shaped like a horseshoe,that I have used alot over the years.I don't dig a hole but use the natural hole created by the wood and dig a flat set right in front.It has been the death of alot of coyotes and fox.I usually need very little urine or lure as I guess it has alot of smell already.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: MChewk] #1870644
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We have alot of areas with pine,hemlock where the ground is covered with needles or fairly bare underneath the canopy.my favorite type of flat set to use in these areas is pretty simple.I find a substantial piece of broken up log,large branch ect.. on sight.If its small enough and not to rotten I'll flip it over in its spot,disturbance,fresh dirt smell I believe are important in this case.I either use a small amount of meat bait under the front of the backing(just lift up backing and put a spoonfull just under the edge)or a turd or two with a good shot of urine right against the backing.I then bed the trap so the pan is about 6" back and to the right an inch or so.Then blend to look natural.
Another version I like:Take a small pine tree,head high,and bend/break so the top is on the ground but still attatched to the base.I scruff up tip of the tree a little(chewed look I guess) and hit with a good shot of pee.Then I bed the trap the same as above.If I am ambitious I will then bed a trap up against the base of the tree on the open side and use a smear of castor on the side of the (stump), 2 traps one set.I have taken coyotes and a fair number of cats with both of these sets.Of course location is important,I set along alot of old logging roads using both of these.The broken tree set is very effective if the top ends up sticking out into the logging road or trail.
Not really on topic but the bent tree is also a convenient way to make a walk-thru.


Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: CLT] #1870820
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Sounds like a pretty cool set, clear lake trap, might give it a shot next season.

Take a mouse, drop rock on it's head and set trap out in front of it. Great flat set!

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I forgot I even started this post..... smile

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........slightly off topic, but relates to flat sets.......

I like to use a handheld wisk broom to "flip" "local" duff over my trap........for it's final covering.......this really helps to BLEND things in.......
ALSO another helpful tip is to SIFT your local debris from above/up wind of the set.........like 3-4-5' above the set.....let the stuff natually fall/drift into place.......this also helps the set "disappear"......

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Bristleback] #1871146
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Great tips Bristleback...the more natural the better...for flats.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: MChewk] #1871277
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Agreed!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1871582
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Yall are hitting a few things that I used to do back when I worked for the gov't trapping program in Texas. Learned a few things that sharpened my trapping skills from a fur trapper to being a depredation/gov't coyote trapper. Sure brings back some memories!


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: ChrisL2] #1873308
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Well then ChrisL12, how about sharing some?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1932632
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1938696
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I make mine (flat sets) on bare ground at a gate, or pond dam. Use a couple of droppings (Usually found at the location), dip a toothpick sized twig into gland lure and slide under the turds. Add three drops of good urine (red fox, coyote, or cat...doesn't seem to matter) on top of the droppings. Blend the trap in good...when you're done, you cannot tell where the trap is if not for the droppings. To me, wind direction is THE #1 most important factor to consider. A coyote's range is somewhere around 20 square miles, all you gotta do is get them to step in a 4" square area one time. If you set on sign, get the wind deal right...you can almost write a check on the set.




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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: FoxSquirrel] #1939078
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Old weathered empty pop or beer cans can work good. In areas with regular human activity these old empty cans are usually abundant in the ditch or on the side of the road. I like to crush my cans flat and I will usually(not always though)nail the can down. You can place lure inside the can before crushing or place a tuft of fur sticking out from under the can if you wish. I use this set along old farm or section line roads where animals are use to seeing these old cans. I like to use wood or bone the most since it is natural but if your looking for something different give the can set a try.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1939246
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Here are a couple from this year.

Scent post set with gland lure and a little urine (deer carcass not shown, about 10 feet away):


Flat sets with call lures:




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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Carolina Foxer] #1940010
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Nice!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1941358
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A slight diversion of topic - but has anyone ever heard of this type of flat set.
light a few leaves on fire and drop some pork cracklins on it to melt/burn, then bed a trap in that.
I had an old fellow tell me that about 25 yrs ago and I tried it back then and it would catch fox/cat. Haven't tried it in many years, nor have I seen anyone else mention on here.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: THWhite] #1941476
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I am a fan of the hay set in the snow for a flat set!!

also I have been setting my catch circles with a flat set. I smooth out a trail going through the catch circle and set a bridger 1.65 in the trail. I use a tuft of fur from the anus of the animal I caught and tuck it under a small rock just off the trail I made. I like my trap 4" or so from the tuft of fur with the dog facing the fur, I also block the loose jaw a little, just a small twig stcuk in the ground or a very small dirtclod. I be sure to rough up the rest of the circle so the trail is the easiest route if they are just passing through.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Diamond-W-] #1943175
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Charred wood setResults

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Hunter50] #1943238
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: ] #1989446
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That's a good one!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1989950
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How about the sod set. Cut out sod the size of trap and flip it over. Set and blend in trap in the hole. Tuck gland lure under edge of sod on trap side and squirt of urine on top of sod.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Hillbillybear] #1991463
05/12/10 10:56 PM
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Old school and a very good set!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1997175
05/18/10 01:37 AM
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This will be a flat set for k9s using a sun bleached cow bone as backing. Here’s a list of the needed items to make this set…

§ One trap, of your choice depending on the critter you’re after
§ Trap stake or two, again your choice
§ Sun bleached cow bone
§ Pan cover, of your choice
§ Dirt sifter
§ Good gland lure
§ Good bait

My favorite location is at the head of a draw in a picked soybean field. I start off by digging a bed for the trap and poking a small hole above the trap bed with my trap stake…


Next I stake the trap so the loose jaw will lie on the head of the stake and the dog points at the 1:30 position or so when bedded, had I of staked this trap the stake would be where the end swivel is located…


I wad up a piece of waxed paper so it won’t crinkle when stepped on, then open it up to use as my pan cover…


I sift dirt over solidly bedded trap then replace the ground cover so it looks like nothing was done there….


A few drops of gland lure down the hole, a tablespoon of bait into the marrow cavity of the bone and place the bone over the hole…


A wider view of the completed set, that bone sticks out like a turd in a punch bowl, really gets their attention…


~ADC~

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #1997811
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i think mine has to be where a stick or fallen limb rides about 10-18" off the ground at the edge of a road or travelway.. i put the lure on the underside and put the trap rigth in front and out about 7-9".. when i bed the trap i like the levers at 3 and 9 o'clock and then make it a slight walk through type set..

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: trap runner] #1998177
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nice post adc!


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: JoeyHalk] #2000284
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'Settin' the bar, ADC , Settin' the bar.....!" smile

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2020299
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I make alot of my flat sets just like ADC does, but I like adding some "stakes" to the bone so it doesn't get carried off. I also add a wire to the bone if I want to tie on a piece of bait...

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Hunter50] #2020399
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that,s neat hunter50 i might have to use that one if it's alright with you...

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: buckrutt29] #2020486
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No problem, I just picked up a 55 gal barrel full of them

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Hunter50] #2022673
06/09/10 12:38 PM
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Why two nails?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2025709
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Don't have a lot of fields of any kind around here. I do a lot of k9 trapping in the woods. A clump of grass in a field of leaves sticks out like a sore thumb and has worked well for me.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2075234
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Those woodland trails are deadly on winter coyotes, 'cats and foxes !

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2075390
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charred wood, dried cow pies, abandunt ant mounds, any bones i might find in the field, skulls, leg bones, a downed log or tree limb, even an old plastic bottle, and as mentioned, natural or burnt tuffs of grass. urine or lure added to these.

a flat set next to any one of these work here as long as the right lures or urine are used in the right amounts, using these visual attractors here in well used travel corridors is a big plus, i'm a firm believer in setting on sign to increase your odds of connecting although favored travel routes often have hardly any sign at all according to ground conditions, you have to use your instincts in these areas, topography and terrain dictate the travel routes , hardwood and pine plantations have so much litter on the ground you might never see a print from animals in the area, thats where instinct kicks in , a good flat set with a visual attractant will pull them in to investigate those sets

one of my most productive sets last season was a flat set made with a log that was shaped in a Y, i had gland lure under the bottom of the Y with the set made inside the V of the Y, a little urine on top of the log and it connected on two yotes , a red and a grey. the log was about 6 inches in diameter

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: BudGuidry] #2075429
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Jayme thats some text book Tom Marinda walk thru there, other than the bone covering...nice.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Coon King IV] #2081302
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why charred wood vs regular wood found near the set?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: hosey] #2081456
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Contrast

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: hosey] #2081961
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Originally Posted By: hosey
why charred wood vs regular wood found near the set?


Hosey with the charred wood you will get more eye appeal and the charred part holds the lure scent better also


Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2146134
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...and more eye appeal at a greater distance !

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2147137
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nothin fancy but a coyote slayer!.......trap positiond right in front of that dropping.........this was a natural kickback when i found it.............setting kickbacks is my best flat set many times in summer........straight urine sometimes a little gland


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2147156
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2154137
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I am always looking for items to use for flat sets. I am pretty sure that I have at least 4 or 5 deer skulls in my shed that I have found while in the woods, a few smaller skulls, different bones, feathers, turtle shells, ect. I myself use charred wood on a regular basis. I just pull a few good sized pieces from my fire pit every now and then and stack them on the side of my shed. An out of place rock is always good for eye appeal and as ADC stated, a leached out bone or skull will get the attention of just about anything in a field. I do like the tuft of grass along a travel route.

Bare areas in fields have always been a key place for me when setting flat sets. A small bare section in a field is already an attractant to a coyote and I most often find sign in these areas. Setting a good flat set with even more eye appeal in these areas seem to knock them out pretty quick. If there are established trails that I can see in the grass or what ever might be growing in the field comming and going from the bare spot I will also set the edges of the bare spot with blind sets.

I have also used existing pieces of left over construction trash such as a piece of white PVC left in a lot (ADC work), set on the corners of an old tractor.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2158626
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TravC, is that a natural wash area?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2159722
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lt it is yes the top of the mouth of an arroyo


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2160588
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I won't say it's my #1 but a rock sure does seem to do the trick in most cases. This rock stood out in the snow and I could see that a fox had already peed on it. I added a couple more drops of urine and staked a trap out in front of it. Took about 3 days for it to hit.



I never did set this one up because it's right on an abandoned blacktop road and with only a couple of decent snowfalls last year I missed my chance to lay out a trap and drag. This is a small rock, maybe 6" across but it's the only one on this roughly 1/4 mile long road that was going to be for a housing development that never got built, and the coyotes loved it. No lie, probably 4 or 5 different yotes were crapping beside it in a night, whenever they passed through.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2170332
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Caught a lot of fur on a rock with a dropping, lure and a shot of urine. It is very natural.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2170901
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Has anyone ever used a cinder brick or concrete block for eye appeal?


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This is not exactly a flat set do to the trenches under the block. Its kind of a duel purpose set. It can go either way depending on weather condition. If is raining heavy I'll put lure under the lip of the block and fill in the trench and plug the hole. I placed this cement block out where 2 trails come together into one at a funnel location. I got the blocks out of an old barn. they'd been pored into the ground as roof supports. When the season starts in October I'll set it up. No predator can walk by here without looking in the hole or walking around the block.


My dog walked up and put her nose to the trench without lure or anything but the eye appeal. I got the camera on her after she looked up.

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2171126
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2192958
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May have to try that trench brick set


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2193579
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Has anyone ever tried using domestic dog droppings with a flat set? Would it work?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2194456
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This is just one variation I'm all about burnt logs and or finding a nice rotten one in the woods and taking it to the feild. They stick out like sore thumbs.


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I read this entire thread,,and didn't see one mentioned. Although I guess I could have missed it.I don't want to post something twice.
I didn't come up with this one but read it somewhere. Take a rebar stake . Punch two holes about 12 to 14 1hches apart..may be a different distance for different critters. Make them on an angle where if two stakes were used the stakes would cross above the trap location, which is bedded and blended between the two holes. Put lure or pee or bait or whatever in the hols.Author noted that something different should go in each hole.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2269461
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I set lots of flat sets for wild dogs here in Aus. Whatever my own dogs show interest in or mark I usually set plus other objects I place in likely spots. Natural locations are often trees, grass tussocks, small shrubs or pieces of timber/fallen branches and even just lumps in the ground.
I like using a skull with a bit of 'fermented'urine in the nose. I read a lot on here that urine shouldnt be 'bad' and should be fresh or clean. I have a bottle that I continue to top up with wild or domestic dog urine and a little blood from a catch - it is full of sediment and is most surely 'off' but still works great a couple of drops at a time. I also use fresh urine from the last catch or from my own dogs too and the different smells just change it up a bit. Anyway back to the flat sets - I use all sorts of skulls. Cow, horse, deer with the antler cap cut off, previous dog catch skulls...
It really has good eye appeal near a carcass where the dead smell can overpower (or be more interesting) than the lure at trap. Works great on pups and young dogs - they all have to go with my job.





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I often set straight in front of a natural scent post like this but the vehicle track is too close but I will only give one guess where to set for this one...

Probably my favourite flat set is the chainsawed log set.

Perfect location.


The finished result. Blending made easy with the saw dust! Lure on the log directly behind trap for dogs travelling from 'this side' and a different smell a little way up the log (to the left) for dogs coming from the other way to get them to step around the corner. The only problem is that sometimes the road is too rocky and occasionally have to place trap not exactly where I want because of an iceberg type rock that just gets bigger and bigger underground.


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i dont have much look with k9s but i found where 2 rocks about the size of a beer can were pooped on by fox i dug my bed so the jaw was about a half an inch away from the rocks with the dog pointed at the rocks i covered and blended very well on the 3rd check i had a big male waiting for me i reset the trap with a walkthrough and didnt get nothing but the set was and worked


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There i said it....
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An Old Standby,And One Of My Favorites Is The Tire Set. Works Great In Snow Or Fall Foilage.
First Drill A Few Holes In The Sidewall Of An Old Tire And Attatch Cable Stake.
Place Tire Along Known Travel Route Ahead Of Season. When Ready To Trap Place Bait Inside Tire And Dry Material(Straw,Peat Moss, Dry Dirt Etc. In Center And Bed Trap There. Another Trap Placed A Few Feet Away On The Approach Lanes Will Produce Too.
I'll Place Plywood Over These When Not In Operation To Preserve Dryness.

I Like To Place Several Of These In My Line In Late Summer And Pre-Bait A Few.
And Scent Post Them Too, A Little Del Kramers "Scent Post Savy" On Outer Edge And Tread.
Gets Em Good!!


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16 coyote
8 red fox
82 rats
11 mink
28 coon
14 martin
7 weasel
2 beaver
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Can you find the trap ?



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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2567727
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Denny, are you saying you don't have a picture of your flat sets ?

Come on Denny !

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2569135
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Eye appeal?



Close up


I see two sets


Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2646749
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I read about the sod set about page 2 or 3, so when you flip up the sod. you put the trap in the hole that you just made? The other flat sets require 9 or so inches of spacing, or is this a exception.


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The sod plug set is my favorite.I use it several ways.Sometimes I dig the plug,8 to 10" dim.,flip the sod and bed trap in hole.Dirt up, dirt down,mix it up,both work.I do best with a gland lure under the sod or in a hole in the side ,under the sod.Fox turds can be used ,in the hole, to guide his foot into the trap.




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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: trapper man] #2710436
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Sod plug..sounds like a J.C.Conner set ! smile

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2783308
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Start with this...




Add a little Lenon's Natures Call, end up with this...




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Is that Buffalo grass ?
Looks like what I often use for a natural urine post.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2789034
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2789450
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Never used any Lenon's nature call but I plan to this year.


Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2792485
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I like to use what we here call bunch grass. I'll bed a trap about six inches in front of the grass then put a small sqirt of fox urine at the base of the grass.Then about a foot up on the grass I'll bend the grass away from the trap and put a couple drops of fox gland lure up there. It gives a critter two different odors to smell and makes them spend a little more time checking things out.Remember,the more time they spend at a set the more likely they are to step on the pan.

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Northwind...those YOUR tracks ?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2832955
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Northwind...those YOUR tracks ?


Hopefully!

Alot of times when I set in an acceptable area I will use a tire track for blocking. Works excellent on those days that thaws during the day and freezes at night.

Find those two-track roads that have a grass strip in the middle and freeze down a tire track in the small patch of dirt in the tire rut, preferably under some overhead obstruction that will keep vehicles to one side. Bed a trap in the smooth dirt area use blind if the area is hot enough, or a type of blind with lure 6 feet away.


This illustrates my point:


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Very nice ! Do that some myself!

Did you mist that set when you originally made it ?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2834582
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Had a dirt hole there for a week no luck. found this turtle shell a few drops of lennons all call on trap side and a few drops of urine on top.

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Had this the next day.

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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Very nice ! Do that some myself!

Did you mist that set when you originally made it ?


No, I didn't/dont. Although it may have helped turn the trick with this particular coyote. By the way he stepped on the stepping stick, I think this coyote had more on his mind as he came upon it. Directly ahead of the coyotes path was a "T" in the road. I'm guessing he had other things on his mind, rather than what twig me may be stepping on, and moving faster than a walk.

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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Northwind...those YOUR tracks ?


Yes those are mine.

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biggbuck,

What is the white object in the picture ?

A Grab and Die stick ?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #2861542
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Looks like a turtle shell

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Great thread!




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #3003117
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i make two flat sets with a dirt hole that has bait with a loud lure i make yhe dirthole then a few yards away i make a flat set with a bright backing red fox pee and one drop of soft smelling lure then about 40 yards i make another flat set with a backing that doesent stick out as bad like a grass bunch and use just a few drops of coyote pee

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #3012418
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Here is one of my flat sets, with Jameson's prairie king, After I watch JC Conner's flat sets for coyotes this is how I make most of them, the lure and sheep's wool is tucked in a small hole (1/2" - 5/8") at the base of the biggest grass clump with some grass slightly covering the hole



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Here is another one, I couldn't blend it well so I made the surrounding area look the same.



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Mist it! It will crust over making it look old in about an hour...


( only works in a warm place though...) smile

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A warm place such as Texas? laugh

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Unless you want ice on top ....like us northerners...

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: NWMO] #3024305
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Originally Posted By: NWMO
you guys forgot the T bone set too. or cow skull and stick the lure up in nose cavity


Thats my favorite, i love the tbones cus u can pound em in.


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I don't have a photo, but sometimes use a bucket of sand like you guys are using the bleached bones. Looks like a large ant hill, and the canines can't resist checking them out. They work good on frozen ground, as you can add a dirt hole into the base of the new sand. They make a good, natural looking attraction in open fields or cow pastures.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #3201131
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I cannot wait to add my set to this thread..... I'll explain and post pics when i finally get off work thursday morning. In the meantime.. i call it the "BB set" can you guess what it entails?

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In Due time Lt smile ....im STILL here at work till 7am tomorrow. I'll be able to post some pics and details of my oddball flat set then. in the meantime i refer you to some really good posts by some members in the "Unorthodox Sets" thread-- current going in the Trapping Only forum..
Linked Here
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/350303/7

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #3203160
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I once read a fishing article by Al Linder. He said the only difference between a jig and a (Lindy) rig was the space between the minnow and the weight. Simplified it alot to me.

I am new to trapping, but it seems to me a dirthole and a flat set are the same thing. Trap, pattern, and something(s) to attract to the X. One has a hole and the other, well it might too, or two. I did pick up on this that everyone seems to lure a flat set but few seem to bait them.

I have read and watched more than a little bit in the last few months am I missing something? By the way, thank you Mr. Dobbins for this wonderful resource so slow learners like me can catch on.

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I refer you to the "Basic Sets" link on the Opening page of this site.. Mr. Dobbins Lays out the differences pretty well. ..better than i could hope to relay in as many characters.

http://www.trapperman.com/trapperman/basic_sets.htm

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Ringbill5196] #3417420
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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
I once read a fishing article by Al Linder. He said the only difference between a jig and a (Lindy) rig was the space between the minnow and the weight. Simplified it alot to me.

I am new to trapping, but it seems to me a dirthole and a flat set are the same thing. Trap, pattern, and something(s) to attract to the X. One has a hole and the other, well it might too, or two. I did pick up on this that everyone seems to lure a flat set but few seem to bait them.

I have read and watched more than a little bit in the last few months am I missing something? By the way, thank you Mr. Dobbins for this wonderful resource so slow learners like me can catch on.




I always set a trap at a flat set differently than I do at a dirt hole set.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #3418400
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I like using a Deer T bone shoved in the ground with sheeps wool stuffed in the bone hole and lured.Just recently picked up a big bag of Llama bones from a friends place,and those things have some hefty T bones on them.Iv read about this before,not my set.But took a golf ball and drilled a hole 3/4 through it.Screwed a long screw through the hole and out the other side,and then stuffed wool in the hole.Im gonna try that this year,think it will be good eye appeal.Also took a big leg bone and drilled a hole through the center of the length.Attached a cable stake to it,and then drilled a hole into each end and stuffed wool into it.Gonna try staking the bone down,luring the wool,and setting it.We'll see how it works.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #3947917
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I'm using a large vertebrae from a cow that died on a farm. maybe I should call it the double Tbone set. I anchored it with a t bar and scorched it with a torch.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: watermann2] #3947950
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Originally Posted By: watermann2
I'm using a large vertebrae from a cow that died on a farm. maybe I should call it the double Tbone set. I anchored it with a t bar and scorched it with a torch.


I use vertebrae as well. Just found a nice pile the other day while scouting and gathered up some.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4074524
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Now that i think about it i know of a whole cow carcass worth of bones.do i just grab some of the different bones to use for sets


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: smithco. trapper] #4074579
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Originally Posted By: smithco. trapper
Now that i think about it i know of a whole cow carcass worth of bones.do i just grab some of the different bones to use for sets


Load up! The whiter, the better. Smaller bones of the carcass are sometimes better, sometimes the larger ones...sometimes


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4074986
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Ok thanks.i will be at that farm tommorrow


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4136508
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I have at times used a rib bone from a calf.
An old trick I picked up Roy Kuykendall , an old government trapper from California.
Roy had some great trick sets and was a wealth of information on trapping coyotes and other predators.
I learned a great deal from Roy in our conversations.
He wrote a book, Fur Harvesting and Predator Control.
Sadly, Roy is now gone.
A lot of great ones are...

LT

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4313876
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
I once read a fishing article by Al Linder. He said the only difference between a jig and a (Lindy) rig was the space between the minnow and the weight. Simplified it alot to me.

I am new to trapping, but it seems to me a dirthole and a flat set are the same thing. Trap, pattern, and something(s) to attract to the X. One has a hole and the other, well it might too, or two. I did pick up on this that everyone seems to lure a flat set but few seem to bait them.

I have read and watched more than a little bit in the last few months am I missing something? By the way, thank you Mr. Dobbins for this wonderful resource so slow learners like me can catch on.




I always set a trap at a flat set differently than I do at a dirt hole set.


LT,

Could you elaborate on the above sentence?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4314125
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I like a grape fruit size white rock just on the right location with bare ground and a small piece of charred wood when I'm in snow. I've found when I lure these sets I have a lot of coyotes heading to check them out get a whiff of lure then start pacing. No lure and they trot right in without thinking about it. Anybody else make flat/post sets like this?

My last coyote I caught I made the set right before we were getting 5ish inches of snow. Set was just a half inch diameter stick sticking out of the snow about 1O foot out from woods line 2 traps bedded in bulkhead hulls then just let it snow to cover everything. No lure urine anything but that stick

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4314154
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I caught 90% of my fox using the flipped over sod from my trap bed with a few drops of gland (red,grey,mink,even bobcat) and a shot of fresh fox urine. I honestly have never caught a fox at a dirthole set. Had the best luck with sod sets. (Thank You Russ Carman!!) Always play the prevailing wind and BED THAT TRAP SOLID! IMHO bedding canine traps is one of the primary ingredients to success.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4314193
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Cow chips. They are everywhere in my country. Best part about them is i basically build a cubby out of them for my dogs. They soak up urine and lure perfectly. They work beautifully anywhere you have zero and I mean zero cover. Bare naked stock dams are my go-to flat sets.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: DogsRus] #4314508
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Originally Posted By: DogsRus
Cow chips. They are everywhere in my country. Best part about them is i basically build a cubby out of them for my dogs. They soak up urine and lure perfectly. They work beautifully anywhere you have zero and I mean zero cover. Bare naked stock dams are my go-to flat sets.


I will agree with you on the cow pies! However, I have to get the skunks out of the way first. The skunks absolutely love working a pasture flipping them over, and digging in them!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Yaz] #4314537
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I would set more flat sets, but I catch myself second guessing and worrying that im not on target enough on their travelway, and overcompensate by making gaudy dirtholes. I also think I severly underestimate a coyotes nose. would a simple turd on a leaf covered logging road be okay, or is this set saved for more bare dirt areas where it would be seen easier?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4314647
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I use cow chips for backing. I too struggled (and still do) with my lure, urine, and bait selection, amount. I think you hit it one the head with underestimating a coyotes nose. I am guilty of it too but now I have tried so hard to correct it that I'm unsure of my call lure and hardly ever use them. I'm a firm believer that if you are on location very little lure is needed to be productive. My cousin is county trapper he will not re-lure his coyote sets for at least a month. I have the most confidence in flat sets, I believe coyotes are easier to catch when they are on flat ground and away from vertical structure. JMO

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: DogsRus] #4314672
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I ought to know better too. ive gone to sets that were covered in snow for 3 weeks and the coyotes will have dug at them. im going to try to back off the lure and trust my location a little better with subtle sets.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4314761
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If you got coyotes coming through your on location

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4315565
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I like to use white...... very white rocks for my #1 backing for bobcats. Or White bones or skulls. Something different that sticks out big times when you put it there for the first time. These white eye catchers work good when I make a walk thru set targeting cats. I make a small pile on either side of where I want the cat to walk thru. I know where several farmers and ranchers have a dead cow piles and I can go there and get lots of white bones and skulls to use. For yotes the #1 backing I use is natural clumps of grass.... followed by cow pies or a chunk of wood or stick. But I have used lots of other stuff and most seemed to work.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: NebrCatMan] #4316067
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some people put lure under something for flat sets, some put lure on something. does this make a difference in what lure you use. something above ground, not in a hole would be easier for a coyote to roll on. would a t bone set use a different lure than putting lure in a mouse hole, or am I overthinking the whole thing. never gave much thought on what lures to use before joining this site, just want to make sure im using them right.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4322718
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I have at times used a rib bone from a calf.
An old trick I picked up Roy Kuykendall , an old government trapper from California.
Roy had some great trick sets and was a wealth of information on trapping coyotes and other predators.
I learned a great deal from Roy in our conversations.
He wrote a book, Fur Harvesting and Predator Control.
Sadly, Roy is now gone.
A lot of great ones are...

LT


I ordered a used copy of this book today. Pretty tough to find, so I hope it is good.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4323092
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We have a lot of armadillos on the hunting club that I trap on and they are always laying in the road from getting shot. It seems the buzzards are the only thing to eat them put always notice coyote and bobcat tracks around them even though they are not eating them. I decided this year to use a couple of the empty shells by standing them up against some weeds/briars next to the road. A little dab of lure inside the shell and trap blended out front made for a flashy set but didn't look out of place for the gas line guys running the roads I trap on. My first bobcat this year was on one of the "standing armadillo shell" sets. I caught a couple possums at the other set so they are not possum proof - Dang!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4324100
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Well Okie, you know an armadillo ain't nothin' but "a 'possum on the half shell !" laugh

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: DogsRus] #4324126
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Originally Posted By: DogsRus
Cow chips. They are everywhere in my country. Best part about them is i basically build a cubby out of them for my dogs. They soak up urine and lure perfectly. They work beautifully anywhere you have zero and I mean zero cover. Bare naked stock dams are my go-to flat sets.


You have any pictures of a coyote cubby made out of cow chips? I can find plenty of cow chips for sets, but curious how exactly you are making a cubby out of it. My first thought is that you are just using the cow chip as backing, but would be curious to see a set as you described since it may work very well where I am.

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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4324203
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I always set a trap at a flat set differently than I do at a dirt hole set.


Novice trap setters (like me) would love for you to expand on this thought. My basic understanding of coyote sets is that I should put the center of the trap pan 8-10 inches back with an offset of an inch or two. The traps are certainly blended differently, but as a novice your comment makes me ask, are you also changing your distance from the object of attraction? Granted on a dirt hole you might make it a slight step down for foot guidance, and you can change your distance to the center of the pan on a dirthole due to the angle of your hole, or you may leave a mound of dirt in front of the hole to help obscure the view and make the animal step closer and as already mentioned a dirthole will be covered with whatever kind of soil you have, while a flat set will be covered with dry grass, pine needles, or whatever is the prevailing ground cover. Are those the differences between how you set a flat set and a dirt hole, or are there more subtle or not so subtle differences that I have not noticed?

And one last question for you veteran canine trappers, do you find a dirt hole set or a flat set any more effective than the other? Because a dirt hole in my tough digging conditions always takes me longer to put in, so if you found them to be rather equal I might be inclined to dig less rock holes, I mean "dirt" holes and put in more flat sets.

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Skimming through this thread I noticed alot of charred wood mentioned, I like charred wood as I trap in snow country and it really stands out. One thing I have done is collected wood from burns (common here) or the firepit and let them soak in a coffee can half full of urine, then let them dry out.

Moose antler or dried bleached bones have been succesful, having them freeze in or actually freezing them down has prevented a few thefts of my "attractor" through the years.

Recently my trapping partner threw a funky shaped piece of log in my tow behind. It looks odd and I think it will grab some attention. I forgot about it and when we were loading the snowmachines and gear at this pull off on the highway, I stuck it in a snow bank. Since then it has been visited by what seems to be a mirage of dogs and other critters that frequent this stop on the highway. It will be heading down the line this week and placed along the trail with some steel, sort of "pre-lured".

Most recently I stuck a pheasant tail feather in the snow on a powerline, (we dont have pheasants here) but it stood out. I've given it a shot of urine or added some call lure nearby for a few months and finally this week this guy showed up





I think you could probably get a bite from anything that stands out and isn't contaminated with fuel or chemicals. At least it's worth a try.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4475493
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Burnt wood stands out well here too, martenpine.
BTW Nice fox !

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4756987
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: longbow31] #4878857
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Originally Posted By: longbow31
I would set more flat sets, but I catch myself second guessing and worrying that im not on target enough on their travelway, and overcompensate by making gaudy dirtholes. I also think I severly underestimate a coyotes nose. would a simple turd on a leaf covered logging road be okay, or is this set saved for more bare dirt areas where it would be seen easier?


The type of terrain often determines the type of set I use.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4879578
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LT, sometimes you say just enuf to tick me off....until I get it laugh. i don't like having to think on my own lol.

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well not my #1 flat set but it works, had a catch circle from 2 yotes i caught , had one leaving me a present 6ft away so i slipped a trap in,
on the upper right tuft of grass is a fresh anal gland from a catch that morning.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: furgotten] #4880764
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I like a huge cow bone- so big that it almost gets too showy. Close by I have great luck with either a quite harmless looking little scent post or something like Tim B has set up there. I try to blend these well but am not brave enough to put much grass between my jaws. Bad things happen when I do that


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I truly believe if a location is good enough for a trap it's good enough for two three or even four " sometimes". I will make a flat set on one corner of a bale of hay or straw, stick a q tip full of gland lure in the bale about 4or5 inches off the ground. Then go to the other end of the bale and make a dirt hole. Depending on the location I will add a blind set or a golf ball set.

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the triangle corn cobb set is money

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Never heard of it Tigerland- do tell


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About to try for coyotes (my second year). Been reading here about flat sets and what you guys use to put your lure on... Me and my buddy caught two yotes last year on a 2 foot long piece of partially charred firewood with a 3/4 inch wide hole drilled upwards at an angle (for rainproofing) in the middle of one of the long sides of the wood. I caught two yotes with gland lure smeared on a telephone pole about 3' off a driveway, and another yote with the lure smeared on a 4 inch diameter fence post (also caught 2 on a dirt hole). I read on here about using 1" PVC or plastic electrical conduit as a rain resistant lure holder (as part of the "pipe dream" set).

What do you guys think about using a 2 x 4 of whitewood (fir or spruce) maybe 18 or 24 inches long from Home Depot with a 3/4" hole drilled slanted upward about 2" down from top of post to put the lure in, 1-2" below the hole staple on a 2" x 2" piece of carpet or sheepswool as a urine holder, then maybe another 3/4" wide hole 2 inches below that for a different lure? Should this work, and if so, how would some of you use this in making your set?

I know you need to drive it deep enough in the ground to keep the coyote from grabbing it and running off with it but how far above the ground should I leave the exposed part?

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #4883596
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here is an early yote on a flat set with a tuff of grass as backing. I set flat sets in the same fashion as I would a dirt hole except no visible bait hole and only enough backing to steer the animal around to the set side. I try to have the backing toward the dominant wind direction but all my set locations usually get double trapped to get em coming or going.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5109202
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: longbow31] #5109692
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Originally Posted By: longbow31
LT, sometimes you say just enuf to tick me off....until I get it laugh. i don't like having to think on my own lol.




lol. I've often thought that myself !


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Yes !! 4x4 charred block !!

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5110089
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Always something new too learn this is a good thread lets keep it going!


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5110244
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Walk through style flat set, grass clump used for backing, bone an droppings used for attractor with a shot of coyote of urine and gland lure. Trap is bedded between the bone and smaller grass clump used as a guide. Also a few stems used as vertical guides. This set produced 2 coyotes before the third came along on a rainy night and turned it into a mud puddle. Put in a matching fresh set outside of the burn circle and caught 2 more.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: Jpwilson] #5110268
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I like to use a cow chip or a flat rock with a coyote turd on top, shot of urine and sometimes a little lure underneath.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5110310
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Number one for me is bunch grass root ball and all with the grass stems pruned off to about 12" high, blended and with subtle guides. Trap pan appox. 6" offset 45 degreese. Lured with musk type curiosity lure and red fox urine or a good red fox or coyote gland. Droppings help if ya got em.

Fire charred wood is a close second, constructed the same as above. Lured with gland or urine.

Adult coyotes seem to work the grass sooner than the chared wood. Confirmed by tracks in snow.


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5110468
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Number one flat set I use.................. is flat!! grin wink Seriously tho ^^This^^


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5112984
07/06/15 08:08 PM
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Nice looking set, JP. One thing I was taught is that the big 'secret' to trapping was these two things:

Location and how natural the set looks !


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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5113298
07/07/15 12:41 AM
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Was gonna post my take on jp's set but then read sweet pea's response and held off... Anyway, will post mine but its not natural LOL

I use this on sets in a prominent location-think a HUGE septic mound for say one of those private neighborhoods with 20-40 houses... gated communities etc. where the mound is built for entire neighborhood. These mounds are huge coyote magnets for me and usually hard to mow as well so a bit higher grass. You can also use it in areas where direction of travel can be 360 degrees.

I will find and take a large flat rock, maybe a foot or more in diameter but not so thick so it is light. I move this up on top of the mound, just off center then grab a bunch of grass like in jp's picture and rip it clean out of the ground dirt clod and all then set this on top of the rock. I will put a deer bone (rib etc) about 8 feet away then locate 2-3 traps in between these two points avoiding grass clumps. These are great producers for me-the remake I remove the trap that caught, bury the cable stake, remove any traps that were set off in the area and leave those cables above ground then place new traps in any openings not previously set... the remake connects as well. One note-tons of turds after the first catch, always. I am not sure why but it is noticeable(anybody got a likely reason????) so I usually put a couple in snack baggies for another location.

Pic is post-catch of a remake. The rebar is 1 of 2 stakes-was testing at this location with good ground so I cross staked and earth anchored just in case as i knew it was a big dog that was left. He popped both stakes out and the cable stake was the one holding with a large
anchor.


Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5113349
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Big secret to trapping.
I'll go a step further Sweet pea....set the trap! Too many trappers don't set traps because conditions aren't perfect to make ideal "pretty looking" sets. Get them traps in the ground.

Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5149018
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Re: The No.1 flat set I use is: [Re: LT GREY] #5194848
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