Ummm, whos actually snared a deer at a fence cross under??? I know it it a real killer on antleope, but deer? It would have to be a real high crawl through in a fence before most sane deer would attempt to take the sqaut position, rather than just take a single leap and be on thier way. Something is definatley wrong here if many of you take deer at a crawl through in a fence IMO. I grew up setting fence snares, and they worked well in my area do to a limited number of goats. The pradators went under into my snare, and the deer jumped over, done deal. I will say, however, that the snared fur wrapp up in the fence too much at times, and can sure rub out the fur. For that reason, I try not to fence snare. I should note, that fences in our area are rarely over 4' high. If the fences get to tall for a deer to jump comfortably, than I can see them trying to crawl, but that is certianly special circumstances.

That's why snares are not legal in Missouri for dryland sets.

I never have snared a deer and held them. I use deer stops to let foot caught ones slip out but the biggest secret of it is I do not set trails that have deer tracks in them. (crazy I know, but it works for me )

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Thanks for the info guys. Sorry I havent replied earlier but I don't have internet on a regular basis.

I will say this, the G&F guys want to head off any problems with snares in the future. They understand the importance of the tool for managing wildlife.

As I get more info I will keep you posted.

Honestly I believe the problem is with guys setting hundreds of snares and not checking them enough. That is second only to the fact that I believe snares have a steep learning curve. Once mastered they are awesome.

Presonnally I wish we didn't have to have break-aways for snares set in water. Really, it doesn't even make sence, break-aways on my beaver snares?

exaxtly why i see a law chnage coming up. if people dont use common since and check their snares in a timely manner...what else can be done to insure that th3e snares are being implemented properly?

Hunt...round here, whitetail fawn go under the fences , ive sen em.

well you wouldnt set any trails around here.they all have deer tracks on them.

HWD you must not have a lot of fawn deer around you then, I know several guys here that gave up fence snaring just because of all the deer snared in crawl unders, and yes I have caught them too, thats why I say I wouldn't snare fence crawl unders in deer or antelope country, so for us thats about every where. Most fawns will crawl under a fence then to jump over, and yes these fences are just like the ones in Montana, 4 to 5 wire barbed wire, about 40" to 48" top wire.

i agree with the crawl unders .... deer here crawl under at ALOT of locations ... ill take pix of deer hair in wire at them when i start settin traps back out ... also ... the "duck" sticks ... can be a VERY bad thing ... at least around here .... id much rather just set the snare without em myself ... deer stops will stop the deer leg catches and the deer will "breast" the snare loop as the yotes will be hooked .... just my opinion

How high are most of these crawl unders you guys set? I find the spots where a k-9 sized loop fits in with little clearance. I don't set a snare in a place such a a washoutout etc, where more than a predator would attempt to go. We are full of deer and a large crop of twins most years. Knock on wood, I have yet to get a fawn in a snare. I have had deer hook snare in a trail before I figured out about the jump sticks etc when I was just starting, but never had a deer in a fence snare. The amount of clearance on a fence snare I set, just wouldn't entice a deer half to three quarters the size of momma to go through. The time of year I trap, the fawns have so much size to them, that they can make the simple leap like momma and not even think twice about throwing thier heads down and thrust through the bottom. If you set up a snare at a crawl under with a lot of hight or looks like an easier option for a fawn to try out, don't set it. Pinch your snares in the opening, so as to not have to visible of an opening. Of course if you have doubts at all, don't set it! Years ago fence snares were my bread and butter, and though I started out sloppy and setting the opening that were to large to deter deer, I lucked out before I became selective of the crawl unders. Like I say, I don't prefer fence snareing much at all these days, as the tanglement issue seems to great for me. Spose if I set them for many more years, I would eventually hook a deer fawn, or even a rare antelope. I see it best to abondoned the idea if it don't seem right.