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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519034
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I like the idea. I would contribute significantly.

I'll pay the for tanning if.

Someone else sets up a nonprofit organization or contracts with one to distribute the fur goods in exchange for the deduction. My opinion is the fur goods should be distributed domestically.

Someone else develops, oversees, and covers costs of manufacturing.

Someone else distributes, documents, and develops the media campaign.

O I'm rambling- anyone else?

I have a very limited amount of experience- but I did just turned my $6 fox into this
You may cry if you knew how much $ I put into 1 vest, and if so you would certainly give a cheer if you knew what it sold for. Not saying to dress up less fortunate folks if 5th ave fashion- but if I can develop it this far on my own- we ought to be able to make something happen with a little synergy.

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519036
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Yeah, give everything away to help our trade so when people notice it and idiots start trapping for profit, we'll have nothing to trap and nowhere to go. I like it. Worked well with the gold rush and elver eels

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519088
05/10/16 12:58 PM
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Well at least y'all are thinking. I just got tired of having sticks poked in my eye from all directions - anti's, the fur trade, government, fellow "sportsmen," etc.

negatives (in no particular order):

cost of tanning
corruption
cart before horse
we do all the work then idiots profit and exterminate all the fur
third world countries had enough US handouts
giving fur to poor folks would harm the image of fur as a luxury


positives

good karma
good use for neglected fur resource
tax write off

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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519097
05/10/16 01:06 PM
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I think the publicity alone would be an extreme positive. It would have to be crafted and executed diligently tho. Add a good marketing ploy to the list of positives. That is why my opinion is it is done domestically.

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519099
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Ive got a box of fox + ready to go...

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519189
05/10/16 03:27 PM
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An incredibly generous offer Beaglador. Hope that once we beat this around for a couple of days it can be made into reality.


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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: yotetrapper30] #5519315
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Just had a thought (the cart before the horse.) Dependents of active military who live in northern climes would certainly be worthy. Limited it to low ranking (up to E4) non commissioned children and wives. The logistical support can be found in the PR departments of the state trappers associations who routinely give out fur garments to beauty contest winners. These folks have the experience to both get the goods where they need to go along with getting publicity for the good work.

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519347
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The third world countries I'm aware of have warm weather. N Korea doesn't. I doubt any garments sent there would end up as gifts. Even the old Soviet Union satellite countries are not third world. Though since they already want our fur maybe a few thousand hats or something to orphanages in Russia and the satellites would keep demand up. They won't be broke forever.

Any ideas on getting them made and distributed? Probably some churchs that already have a distribution system?


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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519348
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Phil, I like your idea. The tanneries might like their name on the project too. It would be good advertisment for them to run a free batch of donated fur.

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519356
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Be a good way for a few coons, beaver or fox to be used. Give a guy a reason to catch a few. A few hundred guys getting 4-5 hats made would not break any banks and would benefit some needy kids as well as keep our product on folks minds. Some free press might help sales in Europe and N. America where the women with disposable income live.


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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5519887
05/11/16 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Phil Nichols
Just had a thought (the cart before the horse.) Dependents of active military who live in northern climes would certainly be worthy. Limited it to low ranking (up to E4) non commissioned children and wives. The logistical support can be found in the PR departments of the state trappers associations who routinely give out fur garments to beauty contest winners. These folks have the experience to both get the goods where they need to go along with getting publicity for the good work.


Say we had a thousand hats- could anyone here look into getting them on the heads of people that A. need them B. want them C. follow up with said people, get feedback, compile feedback, pictures, etc. and deliver to publicity folks??? Is 1000 to big to start? 300?

I like the thought- supporting military families= genius. There are multiple birds to be killed with one stone here. The manufacturing does pose the biggest hurdle in my opinion. Additionally the marketing campaign can be accelerated significantly- not that there is anything wrong with local papers and so on- but a crafted ecampaign would promote significant good will. It just takes a savy teenager with some artistic ability and basic knowledge of social media and you have people, on this continent, wearing fur, that was provided by trappers, bounced all across the internet all across the world.

Would anyone else contribute?

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5520020
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Who is going to organize this whole affair? Nothing personal, but this is going to amount to about as much as a popcorn fart.

First off, Trappers aren't going to give much if any fur away. Not even the junk fur. On a Nation wide donation, you'll be lucky to get enough decent fur, and matching fur, to make a handful of any kind of garment. Unless you guys are just talking this up for amusement or entertainment till trapping season comes back in, then it is a waste of time.

If you really have a few hides to give away, and you actually want something good to come from them, then donate them to your State Trapping Association, and forget the fantasies.

Just my opinion.


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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Old Relic] #5520045
05/11/16 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: Old Relic
Who is going to organize this whole affair? Nothing personal, but this is going to amount to about as much as a popcorn fart.

First off, Trappers aren't going to give much if any fur away. Not even the junk fur. On a Nation wide donation, you'll be lucky to get enough decent fur, and matching fur, to make a handful of any kind of garment. Unless you guys are just talking this up for amusement or entertainment till trapping season comes back in, then it is a waste of time.

If you really have a few hides to give away, and you actually want something good to come from them, then donate them to your State Trapping Association, and forget the fantasies.

Just my opinion.


I already answered your question earlier. The Public Relations Directors in every State Trappers Association already have experience organizing the give away of fur garments to beauty contest winners. This would be a way to leverage that experience into a new way of positive publicity for trappers.
You have a negative opinion of the generosity of trappers. Already several have offered to donate fur. TANNED fur !!!
And you wrote that I thought about this to amuse myself, well you are correct. If anything ever comes of it I will be amused and happy if a military family with little income gets something useful. I really do thank you for your opinion, it makes people think.

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Old Relic] #5520047
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Originally Posted By: Old Relic
Who is going to organize this whole affair? Nothing personal, but this is going to amount to about as much as a popcorn fart.

First off, Trappers aren't going to give much if any fur away. Not even the junk fur. On a Nation wide donation, you'll be lucky to get enough decent fur, and matching fur, to make a handful of any kind of garment. Unless you guys are just talking this up for amusement or entertainment till trapping season comes back in, then it is a waste of time.

If you really have a few hides to give away, and you actually want something good to come from them, then donate them to your State Trapping Association, and forget the fantasies.

Just my opinion.


This is exactly the sort of opinion, coming from an officer of a national association, that causes people to turn away from organized trapping. That, an idea just can't be done, it's too big, people are too cheap, etc. etc.,.

But there are still people in all the associations, from furtakers, to NTA, to FBU, to USSA, to other even non-trapping sportsman's groups that would contribute to something such as this.

Just because something hasn't been done before, doesn't mean it can't be.

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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5520152
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Then show me. Talk is cheap. I'd like to see it done.

I suggested a REAL way to get some good from your free fur. Make it work, and I'll donate fur to the cause.


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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5520183
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I've none on hand but fall is only a few months away


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Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5520229
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There was that earthquake in the Nepal last year right? It's extremely cold there and I'm willing to bet they would still love some fur clothing to keep them warm.

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Phil Nichols] #5520232
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Im sorry that was a terrible idea, the majority of Nepal is Hindu so i think they wouldnt like fur very much :P my bad

Re: Giving Away Fur [Re: Old Relic] #5520512
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Originally Posted By: Old Relic
Then show me. Talk is cheap. I'd like to see it done.
I suggested a REAL way to get some good from your free fur. Make it work, and I'll donate fur to the cause.


You have a good suggestion which is already being done. My idea is different and may never happen as you suggest. But ideas should at least be given the opportunity to be heard, thought of and discussed, before that idea is rendered garbage.

Here is an idea - how about legalizing snares in PA? Oh wait ..... they are legal. But before they were legal a few people had an idea to convince the PGC to make snares legal. Oh that's just stupid don't waste your time ... will never happen.

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