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Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5536267
05/29/16 10:55 AM
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Just picked up 6 more this week as a package deal. Can't wait until I can get them redone. Also 2nd the FB group lots of information there.

Re: Axes! [Re: Dale Torma] #5536372
05/29/16 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dale Torma
I got a chance to look at all the Gransfors axes in Ely the other day , they are nice! I really like the hewing axe, and the price is not out of line, really.
The Wetterlings, Les Stroud axe, looks to be a great design, it would be a good trapline axe, better design than a Hudson's bay. The weak point on a Hudson's bay pattern is the small eye, if you don't have a very good handle, it could easily get loose in the small eye. The Les Stroud pattern has a lengthened eye, reminiscent of a finnish axe, making for a strong connection between the wood and steel.
It looks like and oversized carpenters hatchet, it would be very useful, it has some good features.


I've looked into buying this very axe. I like the hammer poll for light driving duty. Some of the reviews on Amazon noted that there were some quality issues with both the steel and haft. The positive reviews exceeded the negatives though. So it's possible a few lemons made it out the door... it happens.

If you get one, let us know what you think.

Mike


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Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5536407
05/29/16 02:21 PM
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I had high hopes of scoring some traps at the flea market today, but did not succeed. However, I did find a nice Norlund hatchet.


Re: Axes! [Re: oneoldboot] #5549079
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Today's score.......





Re: Axes! [Re: dob] #5549148
06/11/16 04:15 PM
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dob, the one stamped US.
Is that military issue? Who made it?
I saw 2 axes marked the same US at flea market this week. Didn't buy them.

Re: Axes! [Re: Hern] #5549228
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Originally Posted By: Hern
dob, the one stamped US.
Is that military issue? Who made it?
I saw 2 axes marked the same US at flea market this week. Didn't buy them.


I'm not sure, I would assume so. There is nothing else marked on it. I haven't looked it up yet. Maybe someone on here knows.

Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5549230
06/11/16 06:25 PM
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What lil I just researched, WWII issue axes/hatches was stamped with US on them. There were 3 sizes an looking at the pics the one I have matches.

Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5551425
06/13/16 04:47 PM
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Picked up this Kelly Axe & Tool Company hatchet this weekend. They were made in Charleston, WV from 1904-1930.


Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5551643
06/13/16 08:35 PM
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Found this axe resource today:

yesteryearstools.com

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Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5551761
06/13/16 10:08 PM
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I got this one this spring, its a 1937-38 Finnish Army axe from the winter war with Russia. Its a Kellokoski 12/1 its unusual in that the blade is not used up, but the poll id beat up. Most Finnish axes this size are worn out and used up.

I hewed a curved birch for a handle while attached to the stump , then chopped it down and packed it home

I sealed the ends with bullseye shellac and let it dry for a couple weeks by the wood stove.

Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5551766
06/13/16 10:16 PM
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When nearly dry, I started shaping it using a Finnish army handle pattern.

I let it dry some more then fitted the head

Then I chopped down a big birch with it

Then I finally sanded it and put a linseed oil finish on the handle

Its a really good axe , weighs more than 5 lbs and cuts great

Re: Axes! [Re: Dale Torma] #5557033
06/19/16 05:55 PM
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I bought this at flea market today. A fixer upper.
Very good shape, pole real nice and no nicks on cutting edge.
Looks like someone used it very little before they broke the handle...







Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5557428
06/20/16 06:46 AM
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Great thread! Just got a beware Gransfors small forest axe last week as a father's day present and love it.
Was at a friend's camper over the weekend and noticed a hatchet by the wood pilet, picked it up and saw it is a Winchester. Tried to talk him in to trading/selling it to me but he won't let it go. I asked him to please not leave it outside. In the end he asked me to take it and clean it up for him. My question is how much work do I do to it? It definitely needs sharpened a bit which is no big deal. Should I try to clean off some of the rust and if so any advice? Thought about trying to scrape the handle and treat it with linseed oil but not sure how it would turn out. Any and all advice is appreciated.

Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5557573
06/20/16 10:43 AM
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Can you post a picture of it? Would give a better idea of the condition.

Re: Axes! [Re: Woodsloafer72] #5558563
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I gave this ole axe a Vinegar bath...


Covered in Vinegar...


Vinegar took rust off with a little brushing.
Then coated with Ray's Gun Wax...






-To Remove Rust from Axe Heads-
Cover in Vinegar
Let sit for at least 24 hours. Time may be more if rust is heavy.
Use brass brush to remove remaining rust.
Dry
Clean with WD-40
Dry
Apply oil or wax to finish
*Youtube- Vinegar rust removal

Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5580454
07/15/16 02:48 AM
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Scored this Vaughn sub zero axe with original handle. Puget sound pattern I think. Anybody know much about this axe pattern?





Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5580650
07/15/16 10:34 AM
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I put this on another post but did not get any answers that looked like it would be the same. It was found on the Sequatchie River many years ago and the pic is from the 90's and the guy holding it was not the one who found it. It may have ben cleaned up or some thought maybe cast. The handle hole is round and has a small spike on top. Maybe some of you will have an idea.

Re: Axes! [Re: yoteguts] #5580675
07/15/16 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: yoteguts
Scored this Vaughn sub zero axe with original handle. Puget sound pattern I think. Anybody know much about this axe pattern?







My understanding is that the puget sound pattern was developed for the big diameter trees of the pacific northwest. Back when axes were used the initial undercut was made with a crosscut to make the bottom flat cut then the axe was used to take out the "wedge". On these big trees the axe had to have the reach to get into cuts measured in feet not inches. Many of those axes sported longer handles as well with many well over 40 inches.
From what I read this was also the high point of axe development and specialization with axes just for topping others just for swamping (clearing smaller stuff around the tree to be cut) and knocking the bark off prior to using the saw.


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Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5580694
07/15/16 11:44 AM
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I forget where I found this one,My old oxhead is wore down from chopping bait and cutting chicots,so I will sharp and hang this one for this fall.


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Re: Axes! [Re: NorthwoodsKid] #5609976
08/14/16 05:59 PM
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Some abused axe heads, here is what happens when you use a sledge on an axe, also if you have no idea how to keep your handle tight, these are common feeble attempts to fix head looseness.
Some people soak in water to tighten the handle in the head, it works, but, the wood swells, the wood fibers smash, the wood dries out, them becomes even more loose. It becomes a vicious cycle ending in a rotten handle and a head flying through the air endangering someone. Wood wedges are the best, if you have to soak a head soak it in linseed oil or pine tar. If properly hafted in the first place, you should only have to use a drift and tighten the wedge after driving the handle tighter into the head.
I lubricate the end that will go into the head, with linseed oil and pine tar, heated up. Helps the head go on easier and farther and preserves the wood too.

Here's the typical bad jobs

Sledging ruined a great Zenith

I will reforge, weld and repair it, but it will never be as nice as it could have been, if the user took care of it.

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