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#5823888 - 02/23/17 10:14 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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I think this topic should stay at the top of this forum until we get it resolved or loose the battle.

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#5825271 - 02/24/17 11:58 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Sent out emails/called again today ( Friday 02/24/2017 )
I oppose A4407, S2750, & SCR11.

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#5826342 - 02/25/17 09:38 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Sent out emails/called again today ( Saturday 02/25/2017 )
I oppose A4407, S2750, & SCR11.

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#5831012 - 03/01/17 08:09 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 08/08/07
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Loc: Monroeville NJ
I was at the state house yesterday with the NJOA talking to some of our legislators about S2750 and A4407, and a few other bills that are effecting the outdoors. For the most part It was good. We talked about the human health concerns, pet concerns, rabies, Human / wildlife conflicts, We showed the DP trap and the differences the dp trap has compared to the steel Jawed foot trap that was banned back in 1984. As a note, I did not meet one legislator that was there in 1984 when the ban happened. I was the only one in the room that was there when it happened, made me feel old LOL But also made me realize that I was the only one that really understood and knew what the legislation was first hand!!!!!!!! The legislation that is being pushed today is based on emotion, and wanted interpretation, not the law. Let us understand totally, These bills are not a trap bill but a anti trapping bill. We Talked on how these bills, will be a negative to not only the trappers, but to the whole state. These bills will remove the ability to protect the folks of NJ from many problems that will rise from growing populations of not only the raccoon but from fox , coyote, skunks, muskrats and beaver just to to mention a few of the major Human / wildlife conflicts. We have a long hard battle in front of us. and if we can get through this year these bills will be re introduced again next year!!!!! And we need to stay in front, in the battle, for if we let up we will loose.

I realized yesterday more than I had already had known, that the trapper is the only one who really knows and understands what we do. I found many times yesterday, that as I was talking about the trapping issues and talking about the DP trap, that many of the other outdoors men that was in the room would draw near and listen with great attention to what was being said. The non trapping outdoors men, have as many questions about trapping and the traps we use as the non outdoors public has!!!!!!! The anti Trapper has their minds made up, we will not change them, as they will not change US!!! As I talked to one of the sponsors of the bills, we both agreed that we will never be on the same page but we must disagree in a respectful MANOR, that was hard as I know all the un-truths that will come out from the folks against us!!!!! See I could have be disrespectful and said they was lairs. LOL Respectful manor.

One question or statement was that the DP trap has the spring force to break bones!!!!!!!! I showed how this in not the case on a factory DP trap and explained that we as trappers and ADC men do not want the animal to be harmed or to have bones broken. We want to be able to turn the animal loose if we see it is say a small one or the fur quality is not what we want. Another statement that outdoors men and the non outdoors public have said is, that we trappers enjoyed killing. I talked about how we as trappers have more emotion and connection with the wildlife than anyone else, that we have to know more about the target animals than anyone else, so we can catch them, and we must know a lot about the non targets so we do not want to catch them. And that we feel joy and sadness every time we put a animal down, we just understand life and death maybe more than anyone else.

I want to thank each and every one of you that are sending emails and BCC them. But we need more folks, We need more trappers both NJ and other states opposing S2750 and A4407, on science not emotion, and we need to keep them going until the end of the year I know I know but they will wait for the best time to vote on these bills and you know when that will be that's right right when all we want to think about is setting sets and when they can spread false truths to the other outdoors men on how we will hurt there dogs, See Respectful manor!!!! we need to get the real truth to the NJ outdoors men and women and get them writing emails also. to show if the trapper looses to these bills we do not loose a trap we loose trapping completely and that he next smaller user group will be keyed on. By they way they have their eyes on trophy hunting both abroad and deer, and Dog hunters are also in their sights as this is also positions that the non outdoors general public can be swayed. Ok enough for this chapter.


Edited by Jonesie (03/01/17 08:15 AM)
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#5836044 - 03/05/17 08:19 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Good new Jonesie. Sounds like we made some head way.
My sons, grandsons, & I trap, we deer hunt, we run coon dogs. I guess we wont have a break from fighting for what we like to do.
What is the NJOA stand for?

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#5836413 - 03/06/17 09:52 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
Jonesie Offline
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Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 652
Loc: Monroeville NJ
New Jersey Outdoor alliance.
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#5836638 - 03/06/17 02:11 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5844979 - 03/13/17 05:10 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
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Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5853333 - 03/21/17 08:06 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5858996 - 03/27/17 12:36 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5859012 - 03/27/17 01:03 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 04/09/16
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Loc: new jersey
been sending also

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#5865305 - 04/03/17 06:10 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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trapper

Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5872440 - 04/10/17 03:50 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5878816 - 04/17/17 09:19 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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trapper

Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5886927 - 04/25/17 12:10 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5887691 - 04/26/17 05:22 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/28/07
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Loc: sussex co,NJ
got this in the mail from Oroho and Space-------

Once again legislators are advancing bills on issues without knowing all the facts.
These traps are consistent with New Jersey law and are needed by our trappers.

We oppose these bills and believe that legislative majoritiers need to work onproperty tax relief and job creation instead of nonsensical bills like these.

---sounds like my next e-mail
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#5888435 - 04/26/17 08:00 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Your not kidding, so much time & money is wasted on the wrong issues. Do get me going!

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#5895685 - 05/05/17 04:34 PM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5897719 - 05/08/17 06:09 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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#5903411 - 05/15/17 07:07 AM Re: new jersey needs your help [Re: njtrapper1980]
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Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Sent out weekly emails and made calls.
Please oppose SCR11, S2750, & A4407.

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