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#5725140 - 12/07/16 04:17 PM liability insurance
Uwe Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/10/16
Posts: 146
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
I would like to do a few ADC jobs on the side, one client asked about insurance, which I don't have, so they turned me down.
Where would be a good place to get liability insurance for trapping?

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#5725145 - 12/07/16 04:19 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Dave Schmidt Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/02/10
Posts: 26
Loc: St. Louis area
Jim Pace (Christian Baker Co.) is state-of-the-art. Also West Bend Ins. Co.
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#5725209 - 12/07/16 05:12 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
patriot_trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/28/14
Posts: 3
Loc: Collierville Tennessee
Jim Pace ( Christian Baker Co.) X2. He is great and knows this business very well. (717)-761-4712

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#5725326 - 12/07/16 06:19 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Jim Bethell Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 957
Loc: Woodhull, Illinois 74
Bob & Sons Ins. 260-726-3718. Have to be a member if NWCOA to get from Jim Pace. Bob treats us well.

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#5727575 - 12/09/16 04:07 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
BanjoBill Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/16/15
Posts: 46
Loc: Virginia/Texas
Snow and Bell, like Jim said, Jim Pace wants you to be a nwcoa member to get insurance through him, so 250.00 per year plus another 600.00 to 650.00, just to get insured when you can save that and go with Snow and Bell.
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Wright's Wildlife Control
(254) 371-5839
www.wrightswildlifecontrol.com

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#5727717 - 12/09/16 06:07 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
MChewk Online   content
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4649
Loc: Northern Illinois
I'll second Bob's and sons....great folks great service....good coverage

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#5732341 - 12/13/16 02:41 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Uwe Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/10/16
Posts: 146
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
Thanks everyone for the great advice, I appreciate you helping out a newcomer!

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#5744118 - 12/22/16 01:12 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Uwe Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/10/16
Posts: 146
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
Thanks again, I would like to add that Bob&Sons gave me the best terms. Very happy.

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#5760965 - 01/05/17 05:14 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
swampstomper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 174
Loc: Cantonment, Fl.
Could someone pm me insurance agent contact phone number. I'm not very good with this computer suff. Lol. My insurance went up from 600.00 to 2800.00 because someone got bit by a coon in a live trap. Wasn't mind though but because it happen everyone insurance went up here. Thanks

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#5761098 - 01/05/17 07:07 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
swampstomper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 174
Loc: Cantonment, Fl.
Thanks guys will do.

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#5833732 - 03/03/17 01:49 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: swampstomper]
Aix sponsa Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 5854
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: swampstomper
Could someone pm me insurance agent contact phone number. I'm not very good with this computer suff. Lol. My insurance went up from 600.00 to 2800.00 because someone got bit by a coon in a live trap. Wasn't mind though but because it happen everyone insurance went up here. Thanks




Wow. So because it happened to someone else, your insurance premiums increased 475%? That doesn't seem right (fair) at all!
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#5837800 - 03/07/17 03:07 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
scott k Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/22/15
Posts: 60
Loc: eastern, CT
It would be foolish to even think about operating a business without any liability insurance. It's a good way to have someone else living in your house

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#5837832 - 03/07/17 03:38 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Bob Jameson Offline


Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 3059
Loc: SW Pa
Does that Bob and Sons offer workers compensation as well.

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#5837925 - 03/07/17 04:49 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
NE Wildlife Online   content
trapper

Registered: 02/16/12
Posts: 749
Loc: Northeast Wisconsin
Sorry to say Scott but with the messed up world we live in I think
It's the opposite, the person who is working at someone's house that doesn't
Have insurance and gets hurt will sue the owner of the house for whatever
There lawyer can sue for! So make sure to have homeowners insurance lol
Crazy sue happy world we are living in!
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#5838001 - 03/07/17 06:00 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
bjansma Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/24/13
Posts: 21
Loc: Indiana
Bob and Sons sells Liberty Mutual workmans comp.(at least in my states IN and IL) Same as Jim Pace if that is who you are using now. When I switched the policy stayed the same, just signed something to switch the agency.
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IllianaWildlifeServices.com

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#5838636 - 03/08/17 09:50 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
shorthair Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1460
Loc: Maine
Any websites or email address for these folks?
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#5838664 - 03/08/17 10:11 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1218
Loc: mequon, wisconsin
The only two insurance companies that have been actively pursuing our business that I have ever seen has been Christian/Baker with Jim Pace and West Bend Mutual Insurance with Bob & Sons. With Christian/Baker you will need to belong to NWCOA. With West Bend Mutual you can also get Workman's Comp. On the bright side, a very small percentage of your insurance premiums to West Bend Mutual is used to pay me for trapping animals on their property. I was up there yesterday for skunks. Either one of these companies has an excellent reputation and you can't go wrong with either. We are very fortunate.

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#5839281 - 03/08/17 09:06 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
webfootwhacker Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/05/08
Posts: 124
Loc: Northern Minnesota
I just found out that Bob and Sons is soon to be licensed in Minnesota. I was very pleased with my quote. Just waiting for him to receive his license to receive the policy. Just an FYI for anyone else in MN looking to be insured.

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#5839865 - 03/09/17 01:53 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: shorthair]
Uwe Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/10/16
Posts: 146
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
I don't know if they have a website, I contacted them via facebook, they were really fast to respond.
You can give them a call or email, see below.

https://www.facebook.com/BobandSonsInsuranceAgency

Daniel Johnson
Independent Agent
Bob and Sons Insurance Agency
260-726-3718 Office
260-726-3088 Fax

danieljohnson@embarqmail.com

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#5860188 - 03/28/17 05:36 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Machias Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 398
Loc: Cheney, WA
I contacted them on Facebook yesterday, they do not provide coverage for Washington State. Anyone have any good alternatives? Thanks!
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#5860721 - 03/29/17 06:46 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
hvtrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/11/09
Posts: 54
Loc: E. Iowa
I would look for an independent agent selling West Bend Mutual.
My policy is through The Friedman Group in Dubuque, Iowa.
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#5860859 - 03/29/17 09:29 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1218
Loc: mequon, wisconsin
I'm going up to West Bend Mutual to catch some more muskrats. I'm leaving in a couple of minutes. Can I get you guys anything?

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#5861425 - 03/29/17 07:49 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Kurt in Va Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 41
Loc: Virginia
Any options for wildlife insurance in VA? Bob and sons and west bend don't service VA

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#5862267 - 03/30/17 07:51 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
swampstomper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 174
Loc: Cantonment, Fl.
Bob and Sons don't service Fla. or Ala. Are any were in the South. Had to go back with old ins and high cost for it.

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#5890226 - 04/28/17 10:26 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Kurt in Va]
BanjoBill Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/16/15
Posts: 46
Loc: Virginia/Texas
Snow and Bell, great prices, lower than Christian Baker and you don't have to be a member of NWCOA to get insured, great coverege plus you can add on.
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Bill Wright
Wright's Wildlife Control
(254) 371-5839
www.wrightswildlifecontrol.com

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#5912274 - 05/26/17 10:10 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Teacher Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/19/10
Posts: 924
Loc: Rochester, MN
I have Cincinnati insurance for Liability. it's about $500 a year. Covers my teaching, site auditing and trapping. The agent wasn't thrilled to cover trapping but his company wrote the policy anyway. I also have an LLC, written in such a way to keep me bulletproof. Went to a lawyer who specialized in LLC development. I don't feel naked anymore.
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#5914297 - 05/28/17 11:38 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Starvalleytrappe Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 2543
Loc: Wyoming
I only found one that would get me a plan. It was Christian baker. Yes you have to be a member of nwcoa but is that really such a bad thing? Lol
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#5915271 - 05/30/17 12:01 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Fatdawg Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/25/16
Posts: 44
Loc: PA
What does Bob and Sons, Snow and Bell, Christian Baker , etc. offer in their policies that wouldn't be covered by a general liability policy? I have searched for months to find a company that has a specific plan for wildlife control here in PA without much luck. After talking with my insurance agent (home and auto) and explaining the possible claims he told me it would all be covered with a general liability policy. I got a 1 mil policy with 250 deductible for $620 yr.

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#5915346 - 05/30/17 02:30 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Starvalleytrappe Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 2543
Loc: Wyoming
It is wrote specifically for wildlife removal and exclusion work. My insurance company wouldn't even offer a policy too me
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#5915425 - 05/30/17 04:34 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Fatdawg]
Uwe Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/10/16
Posts: 146
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
Fatdawg, it's a professional liability policy tailored specifically to the work of Commercial Wildlife Control. I don't think my general home and auto policy would cover that type of claim. If your agent says it does, I would want him to give that to me in writing.
Cheers,

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#5915957 - 05/31/17 11:15 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Fatdawg Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/25/16
Posts: 44
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Uwe
Fatdawg, it's a professional liability policy tailored specifically to the work of Commercial Wildlife Control. I don't think my general home and auto policy would cover that type of claim. If your agent says it does, I would want him to give that to me in writing.
Cheers,


The policy has nothing to do with my homeowners or auto insurance. It is a separate business liability policy.
Just out of curiosity what specifics is your policy tailored to that would not be covered by general business liability?

I'm still somewhat new to this, just trying to learn and understand what I maybe missing.

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#5916062 - 05/31/17 01:27 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Fatdawg]
Uwe Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/10/16
Posts: 146
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
Sorry, I must have read your post wrong.
If it is a business liability insurance for your ADC business than that is exactly what you should have.
I had to fill out an application that asked specifics about wildlife control work, if you handle pesticides, how much you store, how many people you employ, what's their training, etc.

Sounds like you've got it covered.

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#5916108 - 05/31/17 02:43 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Fatdawg Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/25/16
Posts: 44
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Uwe
Sorry, I must have read your post wrong.
If it is a business liability insurance for your ADC business than that is exactly what you should have.
I had to fill out an application that asked specifics about wildlife control work, if you handle pesticides, how much you store, how many people you employ, what's their training, etc.

Sounds like you've got it covered.


I gave my agent a down an dirty summary of the work I'd be doing and some of the possible claims, such as falling through ceiling, ladder through a window and the you hurt my poor puppy scenario. He says I'll be covered.
I don't do bugs or chemicals, so that probably make it easier and cheaper.

I looked at joining NWCOA and looked at their insurance. Combined ins cost and membership is more than I pay now and the coverage isn't as high. Also read that you have to provide proof of liability ins when applying for their ins.

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#6052135 - 11/11/17 11:55 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Budfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 468
Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
Does anyone know if Bob and Sons covers Louisiana and also Pest control?
Any one know any that do?
Not a member of NWCOA.

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#6052732 - 11/12/17 05:09 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Budfish]
Kurt in Va Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 41
Loc: Virginia
They do not cover your state.

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#6052754 - 11/12/17 05:45 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Kurt in Va]
Budfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 468
Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Kurt in Va
They do not cover your state.

Thanks. That's what I was afraid of.
I will be needing wildlife and pest control insurance in Louisiana very soon.

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#6053779 - 11/13/17 08:27 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
webfootwhacker Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/05/08
Posts: 124
Loc: Northern Minnesota
May not hurt to check with Bob and sons anyways as they got licensed in MN just to cover me. I was told they were looking to add additional states. So far, I'm very pleased with them.

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#6053954 - 11/14/17 12:54 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: webfootwhacker]
Budfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 468
Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
Originally Posted By: webfootwhacker
May not hurt to check with Bob and sons anyways as they got licensed in MN just to cover me. I was told they were looking to add additional states. So far, I'm very pleased with them.


Awesome. Thanks.

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#6053993 - 11/14/17 05:06 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
DezertTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 461
Loc: Desert Southwest-CA
After reading all of these posts, I never knew how lucky I truly was until now. I have family who are licensed agents in my state...I didn't have to join anything, or go with a specific person-they surveyed all of the different brokers for me...and found me really good coverage at a fair price. I'm wondering, how much coverage does the NWCOA policy offer?

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#6054837 - 11/14/17 10:54 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: DezertTrapper]
Budfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 468
Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
Originally Posted By: DezertTrapper
After reading all of these posts, I never knew how lucky I truly was until now. I have family who are licensed agents in my state...I didn't have to join anything, or go with a specific person-they surveyed all of the different brokers for me...and found me really good coverage at a fair price. I'm wondering, how much coverage does the NWCOA policy offer?


I don't know, but I'm not paying $200 to the NWCOA to find out.

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#6057220 - 11/17/17 04:16 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Baxter Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/07/10
Posts: 7
Loc: California
You do not have to be a nwcoa member for Jim pace.
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#6057607 - 11/17/17 10:40 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
DezertTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 461
Loc: Desert Southwest-CA
I think NCWOA membership numbers would fly off of the charts if it wasn't so expensive. I belong to other organizations-in other areas..memberships are perhaps $35-$50 per year.

I can buy a couple of very nice traps with that $200!

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#6057957 - 11/18/17 10:56 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
HD_Wildlife Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/03/10
Posts: 61
Loc: NM
You can be a supporting member for $50.00, next level up is $125.00 with professional membership coming in at $250.00.

To each their own on what they want to
pay to various organizations they may want
to affiliate with or support.

To purchase the highest level of insurance from Pace, you must have the highest
level of membership with NWCOA.

Lots of people are very happy with Pace, lots with Bob and Sons, and plenty have independent
insurers.

To each their own, whatever works for you and your business.

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#6059508 - 11/20/17 02:10 AM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
Budfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 468
Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
For pest control in general, is a plain old liability policy sufficient or do you have to get something specifically for pest control?

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#6059817 - 11/20/17 12:28 PM Re: liability insurance [Re: Uwe]
HD_Wildlife Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/03/10
Posts: 61
Loc: NM
I believe there is an additional applicator fee with Pace. But not 100%.

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