Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 12:23 AM
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Make sure to report it to your insurance company if you have It. They were all pale prime coyotes that average 120 a piece Along with all 5x coon that you get tanned and sell for a 30 dollar average! Hope you have a few pics of some put up!
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 12:34 AM
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Dusty Hough in Barnesville, Mn, Carrie Hanson is running a route at least as far east as Britton, SD, Melby's, Johnson, Runnigan, and a guy buys out of his home near Hankinson ,ND.,Wiebkes may be worth a call also. Peterson Furs also. About all I can think of now. Your local warden should know most in your area.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 08:46 AM
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You have to be a special kind of scumbag to do that. I agree with Kansas Cat, you know them and they know you. How else would anyone know you have that much fur.
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Re: got robbed need help
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01/04/17 09:12 AM
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Make sure to report it to your insurance company if you have It. They were all pale prime coyotes that average 120 a piece Along with all 5x coon that you get tanned and sell for a 30 dollar average! Hope you have a few pics of some put up! insurance fraud is real!!
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 10:04 AM
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Hope you catch the thief and slap him in the face with a 330!
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 10:26 AM
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North Star Fur on Marine on the St Croix. You may also want to attend the MTA winter meeting and hang around the fur buyers and auction house pick up agents.
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Re: got robbed need help
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01/04/17 12:21 PM
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Only someone that knows fur and where they can sell it would have done that. Not just some junkie needing a quick score but someone tied into the trapping community. Like others said, someone you know and likely has recently been in your shed, or has talked to someone that has recently been in your shed. You could certainly be correct, however you may not be. If there are windows in the shed that people can see through, or if he left the door open to the street where passers by could of seen into the shed, it wouldn't necessarily be someone he knew... Also a crime of opportunity if some unscrupulous individual was snooping around and looked in the shed, I'm sure most everyone knows furs can be valuable. I wouldn't overlook the crackheads. Your best chance to catch them is when they try to sell the furs, I'd be careful to not make it known I was checking with fur buyers or you could very well scare them off and they will just ditch your hard earned pelts. I had a good friend who had his furs stolen from his shed by some ignorant high school kids who had never been in his shed, and they got caught selling to a furbuyer 50 miles away.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 12:44 PM
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same here ADC,one of the gentlemen i worked for lost a whole pickup tuck load.tryed to sell it to a good friend of his about 50 miles away.bad part was it was a young man he had just started taking under his wing and was helping the kid out.worst part to me is the trust loss with everybody he felt.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: mjh]
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01/04/17 02:00 PM
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That wouldn't be insurance fraud, they could have very well have been worth more Same with the coon, along with sentimental value causing them to be worth even More than what I stated.
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Re: got robbed need help
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01/04/17 03:47 PM
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Wow, I hate thieves I got hit this past spring, all my turkey stuff in my truck including my 6 month old Bennelli Super Black Eagle. I guess if I ever had to stoop to being a thief I sure as heck would steal something of value and it wouldn't be fur, lol. Just proves how stupid people are.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: charles]
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01/04/17 05:50 PM
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What type insurance would pay this loss. Will homeowner policy pay for stolen fur or is a business policy required? It's hard to say for sure. Homeowners insurance policies contain limitations for any property used at any time in any manner for a "business" activity. "Business" is defined as any trade, profession, or occupation. The limitation is $250 maximum coverage for business property in most cases. Insurance companies tend to be fairly liberal with their homeowners insurance coverage but the business property limitations and exclusions are ones they tend to interpret fairly strictly. Particularly if there was any significant dollar value involved, I think they would be more inclined to consider trapping a "business" activity rather than purely a hobby or recreational activity. I would never count on your homeowners policy covering traps or furs. If you want to be sure they will be covered when lost, you had better get a business insurance policy. You would be hard pressed to get a business insurance policy for less than $500 per year and it would likely cost more.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: Kart29]
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What type insurance would pay this loss. Will homeowner policy pay for stolen fur or is a business policy required? It's hard to say for sure. Homeowners insurance policies contain limitations for any property used at any time in any manner for a "business" activity. "Business" is defined as any trade, profession, or occupation. The limitation is $250 maximum coverage for business property in most cases. Insurance companies tend to be fairly liberal with their homeowners insurance coverage but the business property limitations and exclusions are ones they tend to interpret fairly strictly. Particularly if there was any significant dollar value involved, I think they would be more inclined to consider trapping a "business" activity rather than purely a hobby or recreational activity. I would never count on your homeowners policy covering traps or furs. If you want to be sure they will be covered when lost, you had better get a business insurance policy. You would be hard pressed to get a business insurance policy for less than $500 per year and it would likely cost more. He could also look into getting a rider for fur if he doesn't already have it. Our policy covers fur upto $1500+- any additional furs can be covered with a rider. That rider is steep but would be worth it for those that catch a lot of fur.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 07:24 PM
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This may be a dumb question but how is a fur buyer supposed to identify your fur from all of the other furs that someone might bring in? I mean a lot of guys are calling it quits for the season and hauling their furs in right now.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/04/17 08:49 PM
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Good luck man. Sounds like your on the ball.
Check facebook. If ya don't have it maybe someone else could check and see if anyone has an all of the sudden barn picture posted.
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Re: got robbed need help (updated)
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01/11/17 09:26 AM
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That wouldn't be insurance fraud, they could have very well have been worth more Same with the coon, along with sentimental value causing them to be worth even More than what I stated. insurance companys don't pay squat for sentimental value
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Re: got robbed need help (updated)
[Re: doug2000]
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01/11/17 10:23 AM
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Great news let us know what happens when you can
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Re: got robbed need help (updated)
[Re: doug2000]
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01/11/17 10:25 AM
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Re: got robbed need help (updated)
[Re: doug2000]
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01/11/17 10:54 AM
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So fill us in? Who was it and how did they get caught?
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Re: got robbed need help (updated)
[Re: Finster]
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01/11/17 03:11 PM
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So fill us in? Who was it and how did they get caught? There is an ongoing investigation, he most likely can't say much for awhile
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Re: got robbed need help (updated)
[Re: Steven 49er]
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So fill us in? Who was it and how did they get caught? There is an ongoing investigation, he most likely can't say much for awhile Unless he is the DA or the defense, he can say anything he wants. I doubt the judge has a gag order on this...lol...
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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01/11/17 06:56 PM
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+1 for Trapperman - well played folks, well played. Glad to hear they got em doug.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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I'm going to guess that when the perp took the pile of furs to the local buyer, he was asked a few random questions that just happened to be too technical for them to BS their way through, sending up red flags to the buyer. Busted!
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: 52Carl]
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I guess I missed my calling. Columbo? Matlock? Perry Mason? Maxwell Smart? Joe Friday? Joe Mannix? Jim Rockford? Barnaby Jones? Barney Miller? Fox Mulder? Angela Whats-her-name? OK, that's all I got... Starsky and Hutch? Lol
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Umm.........don't think Maxwell Smart belongs with the rest of them. Can't believe I used to watch that show.
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Re: got robbed need help
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Hey Doug if you still frequent this site what happened in this situation? What kind of fine/incarceration did the culprit get? It says he was on here yesterday morning. DOUG, don't keep us in suspense! Its been over a year, surely you can tell us now. Dumb kids..or pathetic adult ?
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Inquiring minds want to know Doug!
Eh...wot?
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Yeah, I kind of want to know the details too Doug...
They always say, the ppl who steal from you are ppl you know. Were they?
She should stay home and do more cooking like Babe Winkelmans wife did, and let her husband have some peace and quiet.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: Lugnut]
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Somebody send Doug a PM and tell him to update this thread!
Eh...wot?
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: Mark Steck]
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I was robbed in 1976. It was a two man job. One has spent the majority of his life in and out of prison. The other one is an active General in the Marines. You got robbed by Marine General?? That's kind of unique.. Did they get some jail time?
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Re: got robbed need help
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I was robbed in 1976. It was a two man job. One has spent the majority of his life in and out of prison. The other one is an active General in the Marines. You got robbed by Marine General?? That's kind of unique.. Did they get some jail time? The career criminal got time. The marine general was a juvenile. He was ordered to make restitution (they had sold the fur). He didn't have the money right off so he gave me some guns as collateral. I pegged him for a decent kid with the wrong partner. I never dreamed he'd go that far. Last I knew he was in Afghanistan. I think he may now be retired. Now days a person could never get into the military with a tainted record. I'm happy he got a second chance. I know he saw a lot of action and served all of us very well.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: Gary Benson]
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The marine general was a juvenile.
How does a juvenile become a general? He was a juvenile when the crime was committed, then went on to become a general.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Thanks for the update Doug. It sounds like a good outcome except maybe the crooks got a off a little too easy.
Eh...wot?
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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04/03/18 11:45 PM
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Glad they were caught up with and it cost them some time as well. Hope he paid off on the money as well.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Glad to hear justice kind of got served, although they got a slap on the wrist in my opinion. Still better than nothin'
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: coonman03]
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Glad to hear it ended pretty well. Did you know the dbags or how did they know what you had? ^^^^ Doug.. we are wondering about how you became the target?
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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Sounds like the charges were pretty good! Almost 2 years Is long time. I have heard of people who steal property and Get like 9 months
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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04/04/18 07:34 PM
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Sadly seems to be a familiar theme of them not paying. Short of going to more expense of putting a lean on their house one usually has to just write it off. One would think the court could give them a deadline and then they could be pursued for contempt of court. Guess you are stuck with a deadbeat sorry to say.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
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Re: got robbed need help
[Re: doug2000]
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One would think staying out of prison would be contingent with paying the restitution.
Some people refuse to see the truth when you bludgeon them over the head with it.
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