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#5816054 - 02/16/17 07:58 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Steve Swarner Offline
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Registered: 06/01/16
Posts: 41
Loc: New Mexico
Here at capitol building, they have rolled the anti trapping bill over to another date go figure, the fur bearer protection act and the coyote contest will be heard today, bills 268 and 267,

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#5816252 - 02/16/17 12:21 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
Steve have they spoken on it?

I'm streaming it now but they are talking the kids at the round house today.

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#5816274 - 02/16/17 12:49 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
SWesternTrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/19/15
Posts: 148
Loc: New Mexico
Adam how do you stream it?


Edited by SWesternTrapper (02/16/17 12:49 PM)

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#5816278 - 02/16/17 12:56 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
SWesternTrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/19/15
Posts: 148
Loc: New Mexico
Found it thanks

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#5816319 - 02/16/17 01:45 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
http://sg001-harmony.sliq.net/00293/harmony
Sorry I forgot to post the link

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#5816329 - 02/16/17 01:52 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
Wait did I just hear them say SB268 passed?


DON't quote me on that yet


Edited by adam m (02/16/17 01:56 PM)

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#5816415 - 02/16/17 03:14 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Tom Fisher Offline
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Registered: 06/11/08
Posts: 307
Loc: el vado, nm
The coyote calling contest ban passed, the Game &Fish bill failed Trapping bill set for Tuesday I THINK we had a good crowd,most all the users plus cattle& sheep and other users I didn't keep track of was hoping to not make another trip -----keep writing and calling we can't lose!

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#5816451 - 02/16/17 04:10 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
That stinks about the contest bill. Some of my buddies put them on to help raise money for cancer patients especially pediatric cancer patients.

I'll send out more emails. Hopefully more articulate

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#5816489 - 02/16/17 04:47 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Steve Swarner Offline
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Registered: 06/01/16
Posts: 41
Loc: New Mexico
Im sorry it was bill 266 that was tabled, a bill which would have made all wildlife a protected species, the Coyote contest bill was passed as in it will move on to the judiciary committee and be heard there, I believe before being voted on by the senate

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#5816827 - 02/16/17 09:01 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
Thanks Steve and Tom for the updates I appreciate it.
Steve does that mean SB266 failed or will be reviewed again later? I hope that means it failed which is a big win.

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#5816962 - 02/16/17 11:47 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Steve Swarner Offline
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Registered: 06/01/16
Posts: 41
Loc: New Mexico
its a fail but because it has been tabled it means someone could pick it up, but i doubt that will happen, it was horribly written and would need allot more work then i believe the writer wanted to put into it, financially for the state its a disaster

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#5817137 - 02/17/17 07:58 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
Thanks Steve. Yeah it was horribly written. It sure would be a disaster for the state.

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#5817242 - 02/17/17 09:37 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
SWesternTrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/19/15
Posts: 148
Loc: New Mexico
I just called and SB 286 has not been rescheduled yet. Here's the # 505-986-4485

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#5819587 - 02/19/17 02:59 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Steve Swarner Offline
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Registered: 06/01/16
Posts: 41
Loc: New Mexico
Trappers,

All the anti-trapping bill SB286, is scheduled AGAIN to be heard by the Conservation Committee on Tuesday, February 21, at the Roundhouse in Santa Fe; Room 311, 8:30 am. As you know the bill was pulled from the committee just prior to its scheduled hearing. I donít know the reason other than there were a lot of people in the room that opposed the bill. It is imperative that you do not let this stall our active opposition to this bill, and do all you can to resend your letters or emails, and make your phone calls again. Your heritage is under attack, and it is yours to lose. As before, only you can put your personal experiences into words. Another topic is the inaccuracies that are being communicated pertaining to public safety.

For those going to Sante Fe; we need more than last week, I would advise you to be there early (7:10am at the latest) and get a seat. Donít let the antiís take away your opportunity to express your opposition. I believe the antiís will show up earlier since so many were left without a seat.

Below are the members of the conservation committee. For those that live in the districts of these senators please express that you vote these issues. Although communication to all the committee is important, I highlighted the members that you should focus on. I am personally tasking all of you that read this email to call and email every committee member, AND pass this on to at least two people. We donít have much time.

Senate Conservation Committee

Title
First Name
Last Name

Room Number
Capital Office Phone
Email
Chair
Joseph
Cervantes
Dem
328B
505-986-4861
Joseph@cervanteslawnm.com
Vice Chair
Elizabeth
Stefanics
Dem
416C
505-986-4834
liz.stefanics@nmlegis.gov
Member
William
Payne
Rep
109B
505-986-4703
william.payne@nmlegis.gov
Member
Peter
Wirth
Dem
119
505-986-4727
peter.wirth@nmlegis.gov
Member
Ron
Griggs
Rep
414A
505-986-4369
ron.griggs@nmlegis.gov
Member
Richard
Martinez
Dem
319
505-986-4487
richard.martinez@nmlegis.gov
Member
Cisco
McSorley
Dem
217
505-986-4389
cisco.mcsorley@nmlegis.gov
Member
William P.
Soules
Dem
328A
505-986-4834
bill.soules@nmlegis.gov
Ranking Member
John Patrick
Woods
Rep
415D
505-986-4393
pat.woods@nmlegis.gov

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#5819600 - 02/19/17 03:24 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Steve Swarner Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/01/16
Posts: 41
Loc: New Mexico
This an Email I sent off to the committee, I won't be able to attend the committee meeting, I used up all my bullets on the last one with work, It is convenient for them to change these things, if anyone is going and doesn't have any thing to share and feels I had something to say please feel free to use any or all these points when addressing them in person.

Effect of Hunting and Trapping on Wildlife Damage
Author(s): Michael R. Conover
Source: Wildlife Society Bulletin, Vol. 29, No. 2 (Summer, 2001), pp. 521-532 Published by: Allen Press
Courtesy of jstor
Summary
It often is in the best interest of society to main-
tain a wildlife population below the level of the
environmental carrying capacity. Reasons may include the desire to 1) reduce the frequency of massive die-offs in that species, 2) produce the maximum sustained yield of animals for harvest, 3) maximize environmental benefits for other species, 4) reduce spread of disease or parasites, and 5) reduce wildlife damage to acceptable levels. In most cases, using hunters and trappers is the only cost-effective and efficacious method available to reduce wildlife populations over large areas. Hunt- ing and trapping reduce wildlife damage by many different mechanisms, including 1) reducing a wildlife population below the environmental carry-
ing capacity, 2) removing individuals from a popu-
lation earlier in the year than would normally happen through natural causes of mortality and 3)
changing the behavior of animals so that they are
less likely to cause damage. Hunting and trapping also can increase landowner tolerance of wildlife
and wildlife damage. If hunting or trapping were to end, some wildlife populations would increase, ani- mals would become more habituated to humans, wildlife damage would increase, landowner tolerance ance for wildlife would decrease, and some rural property values would fall. Because of these events, wildlife habitat would be lost because landowners would simultaneously lose a major incentive to maintain wildlife habitat and be confronted with greater levels of wildlife damage.

Its proven over and over again to be an effective way to conserve wildlife and their habitats

It seems public safety has been brought up because a couple recent domestic animals caught in traps. Although this may be an issue in some of the populated areas of new mexico and there mountain play grounds, it is hardly an issue where i trap. South of I-40 there is a lot of land that nobody but trappers and wild animals go on. the following is a letter from the Chairman of Idaho fish and game and how they handled ďpublic safetyĒ. I would hope that New mexico follows their direction and not the direction members of this committee might like to go.

By Fred Trevey, Chairman, Idaho Fish and Game Commission
In Idaho, trapping is a constitutional right. Despite that a recent editorial in an Idaho newspaper said the Idaho Fish and Game Commission should have restricted that right based on a couple of instances last year where dogs were accidently caught and killed in body-gripping conibear traps.
Make no mistake, Fish and Game Commissioners and trappers empathize with the owners of those dogs, but we feel it is better to use education, rather than restrictions to prevent these kinds of unfortunate occurrences from happening in the future.
The Commission last month directed Fish and Game staff to work with trappers to develop a proposal requiring trapper education for all trappers in Idaho. Commissioners believe the proposed mandatory trapper education course should include instruction in ethics and best practices on how and where traps are placed on the landscape. This should help to reduce instances of dogs and other non-targeted species being caught not only in conibear-type traps, but foothold traps and snares as well.
Mandatory hunter education became a requirement in Idaho more than three decades ago, in part to stem the number of hunting-related accidents that were occurring in our state - and it worked. The accident rate has dropped significantly over the years and new hunters go afield trained to be safe, to respect the rights of others, and to conduct themselves responsibly. The vast majority of trappers conduct themselves responsibly too and the Commission is confident that like hunter education, trapper education will make a difference.
Trapping in Idaho dates back hundreds of years and continues to be a time honored tradition here today. Trappers harvest furbearers such as beaver, bobcat, otter, marten and more recently wolves have been added to the list of species that can be legally trapped.
Trapping also cultivates stewardship values and encourages another way to learn about wildlife and their habitat. It is a primary tool used to control some species of depredating wildlife that impact the agricultural and ranching communities and for biologists to capture wildlife for research and management.
It's worth noting that two years ago, 75 percent of Idaho voters approved the constitutional amendment protecting the right to hunt, fish and trap in Idaho and it is important for all of us to respect each other's rights on the land.

New Mexico has a bill that Iím sure will pass, which will make it a constitutional right to hunt trap and fish here, and I believe it is important that we all respect each others right to the land. This bill isnít about public safety, it isnít about animal welfare its about people wanting to restrict the rights of trappers. PERIOD, Id also like to remind the committee that despite what you will hear from proponents of this bill mainly people claiming to care for animals and their environment, the New Mexico Trapping laws were given a grade by the group BORN FREE, a group stemming from the ANIMAL PROTECTION AGENCY, a grade of ďCĒ for our trapping laws. A grade of ďAĒ is no trapping at all.

There is plenty of room for all of us in New Mexico.

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#5820476 - 02/20/17 09:27 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
Tom Fisher Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/11/08
Posts: 307
Loc: el vado, nm
The trapping bill is first so come early

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#5820940 - 02/20/17 05:56 PM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
Thanks for the update. Steve that's a great email

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#5821457 - 02/21/17 05:52 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: adam m]
Steve Swarner Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/01/16
Posts: 41
Loc: New Mexico
Thanks Adam Gods will and good luck to all of us today

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#5821604 - 02/21/17 08:27 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
Loc: nm
You're welcome. Amen.
I'm gonna stream it. The livestream link is towards the top of page 2 of this thread

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#5821690 - 02/21/17 09:51 AM Re: NEW MEXICO TRAPPING UNDER ATTACK [Re: Steve Swarner]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10545
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