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#5852805 - 03/21/17 10:48 AM NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
A pair of bills soon to be introduced into the Nevada legislature would eliminate trapping in the state. The bills, SB 364 and BS 365 will:

* Prohibit the use of traps on public lands (Nevada is about 86% public; the remainder is residential and metropolitan area);

* Require trappers to post signs in any area where they have traps set, whether on public or private land;

* Allow the public to tamper with, remove or disturb traps that are lawfully set if they deem it a matter of “public safety;”

* Require trap registration;

* Impose a 24 hour trap check requirement;

* Require the public disclosure of a trapper’s personal information;

* Impose a sales tax on trappers and require every trapper to report the amount of any profit made in the state.

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#5852810 - 03/21/17 10:52 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Bruce T Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 22353
Loc: Northern Maine
That would be very bad.
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#5852811 - 03/21/17 10:53 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Tendertoes Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/22/16
Posts: 1633
Loc: Southern Nevada
You have GOT to be kidding me. What do we do to help, Laz?
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#5852829 - 03/21/17 11:05 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 1120
Loc: Meridian , ID
Liberals only obey rules they like. Maybe that can be a two way street.
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#5852846 - 03/21/17 11:15 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Bob Jameson Offline


Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 2904
Loc: SW Pa
It was just a matter of time with California as a neighbor, that cancer is going to spread. Who will be next. Keep us posted and what we can do from here.

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#5852862 - 03/21/17 11:30 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
jwill Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/17/07
Posts: 529
Loc: wyoming
Lazarus, do you think this is push back from trying to amend state constitution to make trapping a right or was in the fire before that?
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#5852870 - 03/21/17 11:46 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Tendertoes]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: Tendertoes
What do we do to help, Laz?


1. Go on the State Website and register your opinion on both of these bills. Here is the link: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/79th2017/A/.
Scroll down to SB364 and SB 365 and vote "Oppose". You don't have to be a resident of Nevada but it will ask you for an address so they know whose district you reside in. Legislators read these polls and test the political breeze before voting. If they see the antis have overwhelming support, they will go along with them. Then get your neighbors, family, friends, kids, spouse, etc. to go register their vote as well.

2. Contact the members of the Senate Natural Resources Committee (a 5 member committee). If this committee passes the bills (it only takes three of them to vote in favor), then the bills will go to the full Senate floor for a vote. You can reach every member of the committee at this email address:
SenNR@sen.state.nv.us




3. Show up at the hearing that will be held on both bills before the Senate Natural Resources Committee and voice your opposition. You usually get 2-3 minutes so its best to have something prepared in advance. The hearing will be in held in Carson City (remember Kit Carson, the trapper? Ya, we named our capital city after him), and video conferenced to Elko and Las Vegas. ITS A MUST THAT YOU ATTEND AND VOICE YOUR OPPOSITION. Don't wait for "the other guy" to do it. He's counting on you to be there.

4. If you are a Nevada resident, find out who your Senator and Assemblyman representatives are and write or call them to voice your opposition.


Edited by Lazarus (03/22/17 12:31 PM)

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#5852872 - 03/21/17 11:47 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: jwill]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: jwill
Lazarus, do you think this is push back from trying to amend state constitution to make trapping a right or was in the fire before that?


No, this has been brewing for a long time. A handful of antis have the ear of a couple of state Senators and got them to fashion a bill from their wish list.

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#5853034 - 03/21/17 03:42 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
adam m Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 10977
Loc: nm
Man those are terrible bills. I voted against them.

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#5853078 - 03/21/17 04:33 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: adam m]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: adam m
Man those are terrible bills. I voted against them.

Thank you!

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#5853083 - 03/21/17 04:43 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
wissmiss Offline


Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 10465
Loc: north Idaho
That was a lot of scrolls I got it done. Opposed both bills. I can't imagine how any one with any brains can come up with laws like this.
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#5853098 - 03/21/17 05:08 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: wissmiss]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: wissmiss
I can't imagine how any one with any brains can come up with laws like this.


You assume too much. :-)

Thanks Nancy!

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#5853241 - 03/21/17 07:14 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
dan reese Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/29/14
Posts: 36
Loc: indiana
wow i feel sorry for you all, western states that saw trappers long before the rest of civilization. just not right
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#5853247 - 03/21/17 07:17 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Badgerman50]
Happy Birthday stan meyers Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/14/09
Posts: 1207
Loc: Powell TN
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
Liberals only obey rules they like. Maybe that can be a two way street.


What a great way to round up support, alienate half the population. The only farmer to turn down a request to trap this year had 11 Trump posters in his yard,all liberals do not oppose trapping and all conservatives don't support the greatest wildlife management tool.

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#5853252 - 03/21/17 07:19 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Happy Birthday stan meyers Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/14/09
Posts: 1207
Loc: Powell TN
And I voted against both, included a viable reason.

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#5853256 - 03/21/17 07:21 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Acoody Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/09/17
Posts: 192
Loc: AR
I voted against them in polls and gave them the reasons why I believe they are wrong with this

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#5853402 - 03/21/17 08:52 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Jonnytrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/16/16
Posts: 298
Loc: Maine
Voted. Scary.

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#5853474 - 03/21/17 10:08 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
SWesternTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/19/15
Posts: 157
Loc: New Mexico
Voted and shared on trapping talk in Facebook which has over 26,000 members!

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#5853490 - 03/21/17 10:48 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lockjaw52 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/22/15
Posts: 51
Loc: Utah
Gotter done and added a few reasons to reject these bills. Keep us posted as to any other ways to help.

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#5853496 - 03/21/17 11:02 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Thanks men!!

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#5853510 - 03/21/17 11:48 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
andy weiser Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/17/13
Posts: 3147
Loc: montana
Voted and gave them my thoughts. Wasn't long ago we gave the same reasoning here at home. Good luck Nevada. We are pulling for you.
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#5853518 - 03/22/17 12:28 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
elkantlers Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/16/07
Posts: 555
Loc: The great state of Utah
I voted and gave my thoughts. Let us know what else can be done.
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#5853545 - 03/22/17 05:08 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
TRAP76 Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/03/11
Posts: 55
Loc: Vernal, Utah, USA
I voted and added comments. Good luck Nevada!
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#5853582 - 03/22/17 07:18 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Cooper58 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/15
Posts: 465
Loc: Central MT
Done, hope our out of state comments help!

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#5853589 - 03/22/17 07:32 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
yodeldog101 Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 4609
Loc: Mt
Voted against them both Tracy...
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#5853600 - 03/22/17 07:40 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
JDYoungblood Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/28/12
Posts: 1119
Loc: Southwest Arkansas
Voted against both.
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#5853652 - 03/22/17 08:24 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
rick olson Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/19/12
Posts: 1637
Loc: Northern Mn
Voted

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#5853763 - 03/22/17 10:36 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Thanks to all the help from fellow trappers!!!!! You are the best.

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#5853834 - 03/22/17 12:23 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Doug66 Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/25/10
Posts: 1343
Loc: Georgia
Done

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#5853835 - 03/22/17 12:23 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
NFT Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/25/13
Posts: 384
Loc: Holt Michigan
Can I give my opinion on that site if I'm under eighteen?
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#5853836 - 03/22/17 12:26 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: NFT]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: NFT
Can I give my opinion on that site if I'm under eighteen?


Yes!

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#5853846 - 03/22/17 12:49 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
NFT Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/25/13
Posts: 384
Loc: Holt Michigan
Done
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Red Foxes-2
Opossum-3
Raccoon-5
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#5853881 - 03/22/17 02:07 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Gary Cromp Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 61
Loc: Ca
Done, Good luck guys!

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#5853896 - 03/22/17 02:44 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Thanks Gary. Appreciate your help!

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#5853934 - 03/22/17 03:40 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
tbn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 3961
Loc: kansas
I agree, this is terrible. This cannot pass.
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#5853990 - 03/22/17 05:03 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Charles2 Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/10/17
Posts: 50
Loc: PA
Done also.
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#5854037 - 03/22/17 05:59 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
taser Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/17/14
Posts: 1934
Loc: ontario canada
Can I vote??? being Canadian and they only ask for zipcode" ;)" I only have postal code.


Edited by taser (03/22/17 06:01 PM)
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#5854043 - 03/22/17 06:10 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Put in your postal code, sure.

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#5854066 - 03/22/17 06:27 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
goldnut Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/01/11
Posts: 2798
Loc: western pa
Two votes from PA. Good luck to you guys. Keep up the fight.
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#5854182 - 03/22/17 08:21 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Mudslinger39 Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/12/16
Posts: 181
Loc: Las cruces New Mexico
Done with comments. New Mexico knows how you feel

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#5854203 - 03/22/17 08:35 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Boone Liane Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/10/10
Posts: 1840
Loc: MT
What's the latest on this?
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#5854338 - 03/22/17 10:27 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Dr. Fur Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/28/12
Posts: 126
Loc: Nevada
Thanks everyone for replying.

Our legislature is small, so it only take a few votes to hurt us.

Nevada trappers make sure to email your senator directly--if you are a Nevadan, here is where to find your senator. http://mapserve1.leg.state.nv.us/whoru/

Polls are good--direct email and phone calls are better.

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#5854415 - 03/23/17 05:28 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
late bite Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/20/14
Posts: 53
Loc: S.W. Michigan
Opposed both bills....Good luck!

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#5854423 - 03/23/17 05:39 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
marathonman Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/06/12
Posts: 465
Loc: PENNSYLVANIA,USA
DONE ...opposed on the form...keep us updated

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#5854585 - 03/23/17 10:06 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Ronaround Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 877
Loc: N.E.Ohio
I voted and i stand proud to help you in your need.

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#5854655 - 03/23/17 11:21 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
cat_trapper_nv Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/28/13
Posts: 96
Loc: Southern Nevada
Please reach out to everyone you know who can help. We now have the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation backing us up and working on ways to stop it. We don't just want to stop them on these bills, we want to crush them. Just like what happened in Montana. Thanks for everyone's support.
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#5854656 - 03/23/17 11:21 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Boone Liane]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: Boone Liane
What's the latest on this?


The latest is that sportsmen across the country are sending the message to our legislators that these two bills should be rejected outright. We are grateful for your support!

My understanding is that the first hearing on these two bills will be held April 4, 2017. This is when the bills will be formerly introduced and a case made by supporters for their passage. Opponents of the bills will then be allowed to speak in opposition to the bills. The hearing will end and then the Committee of five Senators (two Republicans and three Democrats) will decide whether to hold a workshop to discuss the bills among themselves and then vote on them. If they approve the bills, they will be sent to the full Senate floor for hearing.

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#5854926 - 03/23/17 04:03 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Mac Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1644
Loc: Maine
Clicked on and voted against.
Mac
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#5854968 - 03/23/17 04:57 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Tendertoes Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/22/16
Posts: 1633
Loc: Southern Nevada
As of a few moments ago:

- SB364 TOTAL VOTES = 413 = 374 of these AGAINST! grin

- SB375 TOTAL VOTES = 375 = ALL BUT 9 are AGINST! grin grin
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#5854987 - 03/23/17 05:17 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Tendertoes]
cat_trapper_nv Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/28/13
Posts: 96
Loc: Southern Nevada
Originally Posted By: Tendertoes
As of a few moments ago:

- SB364 TOTAL VOTES = 413 = 374 of these AGAINST! grin

- SB375 TOTAL VOTES = 375 = ALL BUT 9 are AGINST! grin grin


We still got 12 days till they vote so we need to keep spreading the word! I'm waiting to hear back from the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation about the links and letters they are working on right now.
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#5855036 - 03/23/17 06:04 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Tendertoes Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/22/16
Posts: 1633
Loc: Southern Nevada
Oh yes, of course! Not over 'til the fat lady sings', yeah?

Very interested in those links and letters, thanks much!
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#5855119 - 03/23/17 07:02 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Tactical.20 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 9382
Loc: N.W. Iowa
Iwonder if dead dog walking show hurt NV, that NV trapper let a fox go, it should have been put down

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#5855146 - 03/23/17 07:20 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Petcoon Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Dayton, OR
Voted, The HSUS had hoodwinked a politician in Oregon and was trying to do the same thing.

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#5855201 - 03/23/17 08:10 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Dr. Fur Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/28/12
Posts: 126
Loc: Nevada
So 2 of the committee members are sponsors or co-sponsors (Manendo and Ratti). 25%of the senate has sponsored or co-sponsored these bills.

That means the swing vote is the chairwoman Yvanna Cancela since the 2 Republicans are ranchers and supporters of wildlife management. Her email is Yvanna.Cancela@sen.state.nv.us

Perhaps a deluge of simple, polite email will make her sympathetic to us.

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#5855227 - 03/23/17 08:25 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Dr. Fur]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Originally Posted By: Dr. Fur
So 2 of the committee members are sponsors or co-sponsors (Manendo and Ratti). 25%of the senate has sponsored or co-sponsored these bills.

That means the swing vote is the chairwoman Yvanna Cancela since the 2 Republicans are ranchers and supporters of wildlife management. Her email is Yvanna.Cancela@sen.state.nv.us

Perhaps a deluge of simple, polite email will make her sympathetic to us.


YOU GOT IT!!!

And if you prefer the phone, here is her number:
Yvanna Cancela 775-684-1427


POLITE, SIMPLE and DIRECT


Edited by Lazarus (03/23/17 08:26 PM)

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#5855308 - 03/23/17 09:31 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Tactical.20]
cat_trapper_nv Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/28/13
Posts: 96
Loc: Southern Nevada
Originally Posted By: Tactical.20
Iwonder if dead dog walking show hurt NV, that NV trapper let a fox go, it should have been put down


I don't think so. Things like that seem to help Trappers. The Antis have been fighting us for years. Seems like every year they try something but we keep shutting them down. This year they are going all out since the democracs have control. We need to really stop them now so they know we don't back down.
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#5855866 - 03/24/17 03:50 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
Just a little shout out to all my Tman friends. We are certainly winning the public opinion war by a landslide against these two horrendous bills.

Here is the tally on today's votes against SB364 and SB365. If its a bit hard to read, SB364 has 471 votes against, vs. 42 in favor. SB 365 has 459 votes against vs. 10 in favor. THANK YOU!!!




Edited by Lazarus (03/24/17 03:52 PM)

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#5855883 - 03/24/17 04:11 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
GrimYoter Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/05/16
Posts: 48
Loc: Nevada
Done and done!!! C'mon Nevadans and others help us out here.
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#5856011 - 03/24/17 06:26 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Mn Marshrat Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 1363
Loc: Farmland Zone, MN
Originally Posted By: Lazarus
Originally Posted By: Dr. Fur
So 2 of the committee members are sponsors or co-sponsors (Manendo and Ratti). 25%of the senate has sponsored or co-sponsored these bills.

That means the swing vote is the chairwoman Yvanna Cancela since the 2 Republicans are ranchers and supporters of wildlife management. Her email is Yvanna.Cancela@sen.state.nv.us

Perhaps a deluge of simple, polite email will make her sympathetic to us.


YOU GOT IT!!!

And if you prefer the phone, here is her number:
Yvanna Cancela 775-684-1427


POLITE, SIMPLE and DIRECT


TTT
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#5856853 - 03/25/17 12:35 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 280
Loc: idaho
done .... its real easy and important so I hope everyone will take time to vote. make sure you get the sb 364 and sb365 and not ab bill

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#5856897 - 03/25/17 01:43 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Dash1714 Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 123
Loc: Wyoming USA
Done!!
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#5856903 - 03/25/17 01:47 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
bfflobo Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 908
Loc: Oregon 66
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#5856979 - 03/25/17 03:41 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
nvwrangler Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/20/13
Posts: 490
Loc: Nevada
Done and shared on other forums. Thanks for keep ua informed and i will take the day off to go to Carson.

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#5857234 - 03/25/17 08:16 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
petey Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/16/13
Posts: 462
Loc: NW Tennessee
Done

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#5857710 - 03/26/17 10:31 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Dennis W Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/02/10
Posts: 152
Loc: Bryant, IN
Voted

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#5857924 - 03/26/17 01:45 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
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#5858225 - 03/26/17 06:56 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
HAGz Offline
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done
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#5858427 - 03/26/17 09:04 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
kabguy Offline
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Posts: 12
Loc: Northern Minnesota
Hey Lazarus I just voted too.
Come on guys it wasn't hard, took a few minutes for a good cause.
It could be any of our states next and then we will be asking for help.
Let us know how it goes.

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#5858548 - 03/26/17 10:51 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: kabguy]
Lazarus Offline
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Originally Posted By: kabguy
Hey Lazarus I just voted too.
Come on guys it wasn't hard, took a few minutes for a good cause.
It could be any of our states next and then we will be asking for help.
Let us know how it goes.


Thank you much!!

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#5858975 - 03/27/17 12:07 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
danny clifton Offline
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Where do we vote to get the NV trappers association to support non resident cat trapping?
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#5859378 - 03/27/17 08:13 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
BigSkyTrapper Offline
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Loc: North Central Montana
Voted and good luck.

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#5859516 - 03/27/17 09:45 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Forest Offline
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Loc: Morris NJ
Added my vote.

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#5859861 - 03/28/17 09:39 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
harryleggs Offline
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Loc: NE
My vote is in
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#5859875 - 03/28/17 09:57 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
WIMarshRAT Offline
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Loc: WI
Voted as well. For those looking to provide a little more assistance, what is the next best thing? Join the association?
http://nvtrappers.org/become-a-member/
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#5860022 - 03/28/17 01:29 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
SongDog223 Offline
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Registered: 11/02/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Central Wisconsin
Voted and commented, good luck with this.

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#5860023 - 03/28/17 01:30 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
SongDog223 Offline
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Posts: 2
Loc: Central Wisconsin
Voted and commented, good luck with this.

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#5860187 - 03/28/17 05:35 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Brick Offline
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Posts: 73
Loc: Utah
This is bad. I have to ask if you have a Nevada State Senator with a pair that can introduce a bill guaranteeing the rights of Nevada's citizens the right to hunt fish and trapas a state constitutional right . Utah has a similar law. Maybe Gritguy can explain better. Well on the other hand i know he can. Regardless.. If that law passes. Law abiding Trappers are now outlaws. We will not give up our heritage and passions for city dwelling folk ideals. We will help anyway possible to keep yours and our interests legal.

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#5860247 - 03/28/17 06:43 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Brick]
cat_trapper_nv Offline
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Loc: Southern Nevada
Originally Posted By: Brick
This is bad. I have to ask if you have a Nevada State Senator with a pair that can introduce a bill guaranteeing the rights of Nevada's citizens the right to hunt fish and trapas a state constitutional right . Utah has a similar law. Maybe Gritguy can explain better. Well on the other hand i know he can. Regardless.. If that law passes. Law abiding Trappers are now outlaws. We will not give up our heritage and passions for city dwelling folk ideals. We will help anyway possible to keep yours and our interests legal.


We tried to do that recently, but didn't get it to go through.
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#5861780 - 03/30/17 08:37 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
wolferman Offline
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Registered: 03/29/17
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Lazarus,

I am new to this forum. Brand New indeed as this is my first post. A post on a very important issue. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. No issue can be more important to we outdoors-man, Game and Parks Persons and the great outdoors.

I am proud to report to you and others in Nevada myself and at least 5 other folks so far have gone to the legislative site voted and commented. This was after I copied your info from here and posted in on Predator Talk.com One is a Nevada predator caller and the others are from as far away as Alaska.

I pray we "all" make a difference

Kindest Regards,
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#5861893 - 03/30/17 10:27 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Northcountry Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Voted against both bills.

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#5861934 - 03/30/17 11:13 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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Thank you! Thank you!!

I cannot repay you but I promise to be more vigilant and more involved in the battles ALL trappers face.

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#5861939 - 03/30/17 11:16 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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For you Nevada trappers, the hearing on SB364 and SB 365, the two anti-trapping bills, will be held Tuesday April 4, probably at 1:00 pm. It will be videoconferenced to Vegas and Elko. PLEASE ATTEND THE MEETING. You don't necessarily have to say anything. If anything, you can just stand up and say, "I agree with what Joel or John said."

This will be do or die time. I hope by now you've all emailed and called the Senators on the Natural Resources Committee. Please attend this meeting.

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#5862099 - 03/30/17 03:59 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
MoCat Offline
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Loc: Humboldt County, NV
Where will the videoconference be held in Elko as I plan on attending.
Morris

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#5862107 - 03/30/17 04:18 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: MoCat]
Lazarus Offline
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Originally Posted By: MoCat
Where will the videoconference be held in Elko as I plan on attending.
Morris


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#5862272 - 03/30/17 08:05 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
murderspolywog Offline
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Nevada keeps this up and I will be looking for more freindly grounds to move my family. Thanks for the heads up I put my opinion in.
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#5863734 - 04/01/17 03:42 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
kytrapper Offline
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Loc: SE Kentucky
Helped just now from Kentucky.

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#5865241 - 04/02/17 11:35 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
ram345 Offline
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Loc: Southwestern Pa.
Done x 2 with comments!

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#5865847 - 04/03/17 07:33 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
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#5867680 - 04/05/17 01:25 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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Thanks from all your help, from all around the country. Just an update.

We had a hearing on the two bills yesterday before the Senate Natural Resources Committee. These are just informational hearings where the bills are formally presented and then the bill proponents get to say their peace, and those opposing the bills get to say theirs.

The bill proponent gave a slide show of the typical gruesome photos that you always hear about. The presentation was short on specifics, and completely absent of science or biology. Several times the bill presenter admitted "there are other people in this room who know a lot more about this than I do" (referring to the trappers in the room). Her presentation was followed by a dozen accounts of "more mature" women who had experiences walking their dogs out in the wilderness when they suddenly realized their dog was missing, only to find him or her in a trap, maimed for life. Several of the stories took place on private land from trespassing trappers. There was one veterinarian who testified she had treated "hundreds" of trap-mangled dogs, and knew instantly that the average vet bill for such maimings was $2,500 to $7,500 (I knew I should have gone to vet school). Nearly every speaker said something to the effect that they opposed ALL trapping and wanted ALL trapping prohibited, but these bills would pacify them for the time being.

Finally, it was time for the opposition. There was a group of about 32 folks from Elko who were able to testify via video conference (there were no antis in Elko . . . note to self, check into moving to Elko). They had great comments from ranchers, biologists, woolgrowers and trappers. In Carson City, where the hearing was being held, the brains of the outfit, Joel Blakeslee testified about the science and biology of current laws, and the absence of any scientific or biological data presented by the proponents. The group in Carson City had other professionals (again, biologists, etc.) who opposed the bills for a host of reasons. There were another 15-18 people in Las Vegas who provided similar testimony. Most of their testimony related to prior legislation that had derived from the Senate Natural Resources Committee which had enacted measures to prohibit trapping near populated areas, hiking trails and roads, or had imposed shorted trap visitation in these areas to 48 hours.

It will now be up to the Chair of the Senate Natural Resources Committee to determine whether, and if so when, to hold a workshop hearing at which time the Committee may hear selected testimony of their choosing and then will vote to decide whether to pass the bills on to a vote by the full Senate. If the measures pass the full Senate, then they will go over to the Assembly (kind of like the House of Representatives on the national level), and the process will start all over again. One of the bills would require trap registration and impose a $10 fee on trappers to obtain a registration number. Because the bill imposes a fee, it must pass each house by a 2/3 majority vote.

You can still submit your opinions on the Legislative website page, and you may still email or write to the Senators on the Natural Resources Committee. The 5 member committee is made up of 2 Republicans (who will probably vote against the bills) and three Democrats (two of whom will no doubt vote in favor of the bills. The third Senator is the Committee chair and she will be the swing vote. The fate of our heritage is literally in her hands).


Edited by Lazarus (04/05/17 01:28 PM)

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#5867712 - 04/05/17 01:57 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
wolferman Offline
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Posts: 202
Loc: Iowa & Neb
Lazarus...the thanks go to you. If I ever travel west I owe you coffee and breakfast. Small price to pay someone who has commited so much...Larry
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#5867804 - 04/05/17 04:04 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Tendertoes Offline
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Loc: Southern Nevada
Thank you Laz, for everything you have done and continue to do for Nevada. We live in a pretty awesome state filled with open land. It would become almost impossible for us to trap if these bills move forward.

Again, much thanks and appreciation for supporting those of us who couldn't make it personally.
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#5867831 - 04/05/17 04:48 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
nvsage Offline
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Registered: 10/18/16
Posts: 4
Loc: NV
Nothing going on up here in Elko Lazarus!

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#5868308 - 04/06/17 12:01 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
cat_trapper_nv Offline
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Registered: 02/28/13
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Loc: Southern Nevada
We all owe a big thanks to Tracy, Joel, and John. They put in a lot of time and effort into our trapping association. If it wasn't for them, trapping would have been stopped awhile ago. Thanks a ton for the work you do!!!!
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#5868317 - 04/06/17 12:48 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
ScottFree Offline
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Registered: 04/03/17
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Loc: Nevada
I want to report my take on the video conferenced hearing on the 2 Nevada anti-trapping bills. Then I would like some input from you all. Either of these bills would essentially end trapping as we know it in Nevada.

The hearing was held yesterday in the capitol and Elko and Las Vegas. I had prepared my 2 minute remarks but after hearing the chairman say that we shouldn't say negative things about the opposing side, I had to abandon my notes and wing it. What I had written was that this is basically a clash of cultures and belief systems. The anti's believe trapping is wrong, I believe it is a necessity to manage certain specie populations to keep them healthy and thriving. The difference is that I am not trying to force them to go trapping or eat meat or wear wool. (Yeah, the PETA's even oppose shearing wool from sheep.) But they are trying to force their beliefs on me by banning trapping. Therefore they are extremist zealots and fanantic fascists. Ha.
The testimony I actually made was probably less than effective. I just tried to argue against trap registration information being made public and the 24 hour visitation requirement. But many of our supporters did made strong, effective arguments against the bills.

However, over-all I am sorry to say, I think the anti's made stronger presentations. They made a power point presentation to start, complete with the most grusome pictures they could dig up. Then there seemed to be endless personal stories, many with pictures, of their dogs being caught in traps. I couldn't tell if these incidents happened before or after the ban on trapping in populated areas went into effect 2 years ago. I think some of them were lying. But they spoke out with the confidence and assurance of the self-righteous who believe they have God on their side. And hey, if God is on your side, it's ok to lie if it's for a good cause, right.

Not all, but many on our side spoke more humbly. One fellow in Elko testified that the antis made him feel like he was guilty of something terrible and that he was a bad person, when he knew he wasn't. The most powerful point in our favor was made by a trapper in Elko who stuck each hand into a trap and got himself caught. He left the traps on his hands while he continued to talk for two minutes. One was a coil spring, the other was a #3 double spring. Not sure I could ever make myself do that. He implied that all the horror stories told by the dog owners were greatly exaggerated.

Here is what bothers me most; I think that most neutral people, people without a position, people who had never thought about trapping one way or the other; I think they would have been swayed in favor of the anti's. This why wildlife regulations should be in the hands of the biologists at Dept. of Wildlife and the state Wildlife Commission and not be micro managed by the voting public.

So here are my questions: is there a source we can go to where all the arguments for trapping are accessible when we need them. And how do we gain the moral high ground in this argument? After all, there is some pain and suffering involved in our sport and we do not eat what we kill. I could say, well there is pain and suffering in nature. Predators often torture their prey to death. They wound it, then play with it. They don't do it to be cruel. They do it for practice and to keep their hunting skills sharp. But will that fact convince a non-trapper that it is righteous sport. Even some of my friends who are hunters, would not trap. And even when we are not fighting legislation, we should all be prepared to be good representatives and public relations spokesmen when we are asked about trapping by someone.

For me, nothing is as rewarding as the challenge and anticipation I feel when scouting, making sets, and checking traps. Even when I don't catch anything, there is nothing I would rather be doing. But how do we overcome the objections of those who would deny us the privilege? The more I think about it, the more I think my original argument was best. If you get down into the specifics of pain and suffering, not eating the kill, and whether people should even be wearing animals skins; I am not sure we can win in the court of public opinion. The anti's come at these issues with a religious fervor. It may be best to just say look, we have freedom of belief in this country but you and I believe differently. I am not trying to force you to accept my beliefs or to do anything you don't believe in. How dare you try and force your beliefs on me.
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#5868323 - 04/06/17 01:51 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: cat_trapper_nv]
ScottFree Offline
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Loc: Nevada
Originally Posted By: cat_trapper_nv
We all owe a big thanks to Tracy, Joel, and John. They put in a lot of time and effort into our trapping association. If it wasn't for them, trapping would have been stopped awhile ago. Thanks a ton for the work you do!!!!


I second that!!!
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#5868601 - 04/06/17 10:31 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: ScottFree]
Lazarus Offline
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Originally Posted By: ScottFree
I
So here are my questions: is there a source we can go to where all the arguments for trapping are accessible when we need them. And how do we gain the moral high ground in this argument? After all, there is some pain and suffering involved in our sport and we do not eat what we kill. I could say, well there is pain and suffering in nature. Predators often torture their prey to death. They wound it, then play with it. They don't do it to be cruel. They do it for practice and to keep their hunting skills sharp. But will that fact convince a non-trapper that it is righteous sport. Even some of my friends who are hunters, would not trap. And even when we are not fighting legislation, we should all be prepared to be good representatives and public relations spokesmen when we are asked about trapping by someone.


Yes, ScottFree, there is a source --- and good ole' NDOW provides it, free of charge. Its the Furbearer Management Plan they published some years back. It has statements by wildlife groups, conservation groups, and even the American Veterinary Association (who supports trapping, contrary to the rogue Vet who testified at the hearing).
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/77th2013/Exhibits/Assembly/NRAM/ANRAM1099R.pdf

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#5868793 - 04/06/17 02:32 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
ScottFree Offline
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Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Nevada
Thank you Lazarus! This is exactly what I was looking for. Anyone looking for scientific, evidence based arguments for leg hold trapping can find it here.

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/77th2013/Exhibits/Assembly/NRAM/ANRAM1099R.pdf

Maybe guys from other states can post similar studies and documents from their state departments of wildlife. This is how we can take back the moral high ground.

Well meaning as some of the anti's may be, they are simply misguided. If their efforts to outlaw trapping are successful, they will destroy the conservation movement. Fur bearers will become over-populated and subject devastating diseases that will cause much more pain and suffering than trapping. Species may even be wiped out in some regions. And some of these same people may be coming back to the legislature with tear soaked testimony of their pets being eaten by predators in the suburbs.

The City of Henderson website already has a full page predator alert notify residents that pets are falling prey to bobcats in suburban Henderson. The page offers instruction on what to do if you find a predator in your backyard. Imagine how much worse this will get if trapping is banned. What will take get the anti's to see the light? A predator attack on a toddler?

Wish I had had this info before the hearing Tuesday. Maybe this thread and this subject could be given it's own forum. I would urge all trappers to be prepared to defend your sport. Do not under-estimate the anti's. They are highly motivated, well organized, and well prepared. They come across as very to convincing to the general public. We must not take common sense for grated. We are in right when we defend the Conservation Movement. It is sportsmen who fund the Conservation Movement. It is sportsmen who have restored habitats and species once in decline. It is sportsmen who will continue to help preserve wildlife as human population continues encroach on their habitat.
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#5870107 - 04/07/17 04:11 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
GrimYoter Offline
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Loc: Nevada
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#5870557 - 04/07/17 11:20 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: GrimYoter]
ScottFree Offline
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Posts: 5
Loc: Nevada
Originally Posted By: GrimYoter


Does anyone have any ideas how we could locate some of the folks who have had pets attacked or pets gone missing probably due to predators or those who have had uncomfortable close encounters with predators. If we could enlist their support for trapping as the most effective and humane way to manage predator populations, that might really get the attention of some legislators.

Also, I have heard there have been instances of schools in the Las Vegas area being put on lock down due to predator sightings nearby.


Edited by ScottFree (04/07/17 11:29 PM)
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#5872674 - 04/10/17 09:51 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Gary Benson Offline
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Posts: 4303
Loc: Sandhills Nebraska
Like CO, Wash, OR, FLA, if the majority of the population is city dwellers, the voting wont go your way. Bunny huggers.
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#5872883 - 04/10/17 01:56 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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Loc: Nevadafornia
Another update:

SB 364 will have a workshop session tomorrow (April 11, 2017) at 1:30 in the Senate Natural Resources Committee. You can watch the hearing live on the legislative website. Just go to the website, click on the bill number and follow the links). This hearing will not have any public input, unless specifically sought by the committee. For example, the committee may want to hear one more "my-dog-got-caught-in-a-trap-while-I-was-out-hiking" story. However, its valuable to watch the hearing to see how the vote comes out, and to see if there are any amendments added to the bill. Bills must be out of committee by this Friday. SB365 (bans trapping on public lands) does not appear to be scheduled for hearing so it will likely die.

If SB 364 does not pass tomorrow, then it is unlikely to get any further hearings and it will die. If it passes (in whatever form that may be with amendments), then it will go for a vote of the full Senate. If it passes there, it will go over to the Assembly and we will start the circus all over again.



Edited by Lazarus (04/10/17 02:00 PM)

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#5873642 - 04/11/17 10:39 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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The work session for this bill for today has been cancelled. Most likely will be on Thursday.

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#5875479 - 04/13/17 08:46 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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Posts: 713
Loc: Nevadafornia
The work session for SB364 will be at 1:30 pm today. Hang on!!!

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#5875859 - 04/13/17 05:39 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
Lazarus Offline
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OK folks . . . here's the most recent update.

SB365, the bill to ban trapping on public lands, won't get a hearing before tomorrow (the deadline) so its dead. One caveat is that the provision to prohibit trapping on public lands could be attached to any other bill that has made it out of a committee, so we have to be vigilant but right now, all is quiet on the western front.

SB364 was the other bill that reduced check times from 96 hours to 24 hours, imposed mandatory registration, required signs be placed where trapping might occur, allowed the public to tamper with or remove traps, etc. had its hearing today. At the hearing, the chair of the Committee, Senator Cancela(and swing vote) introduced an amendment which basically kept 96 hours, would require registration or labeling with a name and address, and a few other minor issues. This was historic because Senator Cancela, a freshman senator, went against her own party and other senior senators on the committee, to make the amendment. In other words, she made what I consider the right choice in the face of opposition from her own party. She's my hero for the day. That took guts.

So now SB364 goes to the Assembly and we start this process of hearings/testimony/lies by antis all over again. If this was a football game, its just half time, but at least we have a lead at the half.

I would sincerely appreciate it if any of you would email Senator Cancela and express your gratitude for her foresight, her willingness to learn about something she was previously uneducated about, and who had the courage to do the right thing in the face of incredibly strong pressure from within her own party. You can email Senator Cancela at this address:

Yvanna.Cancela@sen.state.nv.us

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#5876218 - 04/13/17 11:12 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
GrimYoter Offline
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Loc: Nevada
Thank you Lazarus.
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#5876263 - 04/14/17 01:32 AM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
ScottFree Offline
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Posts: 5
Loc: Nevada
Thanks Lazarus. Sent Ms. Cancela a thank you as well.
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#5877505 - 04/15/17 03:02 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
IndaTimber Offline
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Registered: 11/04/16
Posts: 8
Loc: Ohio
I voted, guess I was a little late. Hope 364 FAILS.


Edited by IndaTimber (04/15/17 03:04 PM)

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#5877650 - 04/15/17 07:25 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
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I opposed both
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#5880285 - 04/18/17 07:53 PM Re: NEVADA TO OUTLAW TRAPPING [Re: Lazarus]
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I'll send an email asap, hats off Laz, Senator Cancela shows alot of common sense and good judgement. Perhaps others will follow suit..
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