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#5880541 - 04/19/17 01:48 AM Restitution owed,What would you do?
Deadwolf Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Mn
Called the Courthouse today.The restitution that is owed me went to collections. The thief isn't paying. I figured that much. On another note.Yrs ago my parents were awarded restitution in an arson case in which the arsonist was convicted and sentenced to 7 yrs and ordered to pay restitution. He was paying while he was in prison, and i don't think that debt has ever been satisfied. We never could find him, let alone find anything he owned. Todays technology solved that problem. We're talking some where around 38k. If i can bring this old debt back to life, should i? My way of thinking is, it didn't seem to bother him when he lit the match,why should it bother me to have his property seized and sold at a Sheriffs auction.

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#5880543 - 04/19/17 02:08 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Budfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/05/10
Posts: 425
Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
I say go for it. They still owe it.

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#5880550 - 04/19/17 03:12 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Are you a Biblical man?
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#5880555 - 04/19/17 03:56 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
Dfabs Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/12/15
Posts: 1343
Loc: Morgantown, WV
I wouldn't feel bad about it. He obviously doesn't or he would be making an effort to pay you back.

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#5880558 - 04/19/17 04:15 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
micheal Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/06/08
Posts: 1435
Loc: Saginaw, Mi
Go for it

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#5880578 - 04/19/17 05:24 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Snowpa Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/08
Posts: 1053
Loc: USA MN
I believe that has to be renewed every 10 years if not you forfeit . If he ever buys or sells a home they will make him pay up!
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#5880580 - 04/19/17 05:29 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
Gary Benson Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4303
Loc: Sandhills Nebraska
Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Are you a Biblical man?

An eye for an eye...
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#5880594 - 04/19/17 05:44 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Gary Benson]
Steven 49er Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/18/10
Posts: 4191
Loc: mn north of blakely
Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Are you a Biblical man?

An eye for an eye...


Turn the other cheek?

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#5880597 - 04/19/17 05:50 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Gary Benson]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Are you a Biblical man?

An eye for an eye...


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#5880614 - 04/19/17 06:30 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
EdP Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/04/12
Posts: 674
Loc: meadowview, Virginia
WRT the "Biblical man" question, I would say you can forgive the man without forgiving the debt. Collect the debt if possible. That's also consistent with our legal system in that someone who has committed a crime pays their debt to society and then gets to start again. In this case, part of the debt is still owed.

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#5880637 - 04/19/17 07:01 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
330-Trapper Offline



Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 16902
Loc: Minnesota
Dog him, use the availabile "preverbial canine traps"
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#5880646 - 04/19/17 07:14 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: EdP]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted By: EdP
WRT the "Biblical man" question, I would say you can forgive the man without forgiving the debt. Collect the debt if possible. That's also consistent with our legal system in that someone who has committed a crime pays their debt to society and then gets to start again. In this case, part of the debt is still owed.


Would adultery be considered an offense? Can a spouse truly forgive another and not forgive the offense?
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#5880654 - 04/19/17 07:23 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
danny clifton Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 8818
Loc: williamsburg ks
Is the 38 thousand owed to you or the insurance company? If its owed to you I say collect it.

Same with the thief. Use every legal means to collect if money is owed to you and not an insurance company. insurance company can decide for themselves their best course of action.
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#5880665 - 04/19/17 07:30 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Bruce T Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 22353
Loc: Northern Maine
I'd get what I could.
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#5880676 - 04/19/17 07:40 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: EdP]
Ronaround Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 877
Loc: N.E.Ohio
Originally Posted By: EdP
WRT the "Biblical man" question, I would say you can forgive the man without forgiving the debt. Collect the debt if possible. That's also consistent with our legal system in that someone who has committed a crime pays their debt to society and then gets to start again. In this case, part of the debt is still owed.


I'm with this above!!!

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#5880682 - 04/19/17 07:44 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Macthediver Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1872
Loc: La Crosse, WI
I had two different folks owe me money ordered by court to pay. Filed the dockets all the stuff court said I need to do try to get paid. That was almost 30 years ago. One of them died and I still never seen a penny and I'm guessing someone got stuck for burial cost. The other person is still floating around out their somewhere with my debt on their credit report. No idea how that works. Biggest problem with my deal was the dollar amount wasn't that much. If I'd have tried to keep chasing them I'd have spent more than they owed me just in constant paper work fees. Like Danny said if the money is owed you and it's large enough amount. Go for it. But it's going to cost something out of pocket just for the chase.

Mac
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#5880735 - 04/19/17 08:32 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
waggler Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2038
Loc: Alaska and Washington State
Check your State laws, some States will wipe out a judgement in as little as six years if you don't take action to collect. Does he own any property, if so file a lien? If he gets a job, garnish his wages.

You can forgive someones offense, not hold a grudge, and still require him to take responsibility for his actions. God does that with us all the time.
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#5880743 - 04/19/17 08:45 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Law Dog Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 9871
Loc: Central, SD
People that have nothing and never will have no fear of losing what they never had the jails are full of them, they have a better quality of life being locked up often.
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#5880771 - 04/19/17 09:26 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Dillrod Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 1226
Loc: S/W Mich.
I know a person (family) who won $30,000 on an instant lottery ticket.
All I heard was good times ahead.
After trip to Lansing (lottery office) to claim the prize.
They returned with just under $1,200.
Lots of small claims court decisions were paid off it seems.
So I know there is a chance , at least in Mich.
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#5880773 - 04/19/17 09:31 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: waggler]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted By: waggler
You can forgive someones offense, not hold a grudge, and still require him to take responsibility for his actions. God does that with us all the time.


God is going to hold us accountable for what He has forgiven us for?
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#5880784 - 04/19/17 09:45 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
beaverpeeler Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2903
Loc: Oregon
I believe different states have different rules on how long a period of time can elapse if there is no action on debts owed. Don't know how that works with restitution. But if a judgement is involved, and is renewed when appropriate, I would think that in most jurisdictions they can put a lien on anything of value that comes to the court's attention.
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#5880839 - 04/19/17 10:58 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Deadwolf Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Mn
How all this came about is, my brother saw a article in the paper about the State of Mn has an account with millions of dollars it. It's all unclaimed restitution for people who are owed it. I haven't checked into it yet,or have a web address for it. I think i can find the info I need thru the Courthouse. The restitution was court ordered ,so i think it's valid until it's satisfied. The arsonist owes my parents (no insurance claim) which falls onto their estate now. I have been handling whats left of it.This guy now owns property that i could file a judgement against. It's a lot of money for sure,also stressful trying to get it. I would enjoy to see the look on his face more than anything.I have to make some more calls today to find out more. I have paper work to file (judgement) against the thief that owes me, but he doesn't own anything yet that i can file it on,so it just sits on my desk until he does.

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#5880856 - 04/19/17 11:21 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Trapper7 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 4229
Loc: MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
My lake place was broken into two years ago. They kicked in the door wrecking the door and frame. They were looking for drugs which I didn't have any, but they did damage dressers while looking in every room.

They were caught by the tribal police and went to the county jail. The tribal police said I should contact the sheriff's department and make up a list for the damage they did. I sent a list to the sheriff's office and never heard back from them. They were very uncooperative, wouldn't tell me the thieves names, when they would be going to court, or anything about restitution.

It cost me $325 for a new door and frame that was comparable to the old one. We bought some used dressers at garage sales.

To this day, we don't know who did this or whatever happened to them.
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#5880858 - 04/19/17 11:23 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: 330-Trapper]
AntiGov Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/14
Posts: 3052
Loc: Central Oregon
Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
Dog him, use the availabile "preverbial canine traps"


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#5880862 - 04/19/17 11:25 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Trapper7]
AntiGov Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/14
Posts: 3052
Loc: Central Oregon
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
My lake place was broken into two years ago. They kicked in the door wrecking the door and frame. They were looking for drugs which I didn't have any, but they did damage dressers while looking in every room.

They were caught by the tribal police and went to the county jail. The tribal police said I should contact the sheriff's department and make up a list for the damage they did. I sent a list to the sheriff's office and never heard back from them. They were very uncooperative, wouldn't tell me the thieves names, when they would be going to court, or anything about restitution.

It cost me $325 for a new door and frame that was comparable to the old one. We bought some used dressers at garage sales.

To this day, we don't know who did this or whatever happened to them.


Wow.....this type of crappy justice system just leads to more of the same....
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#5880875 - 04/19/17 11:38 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Trapper7]
Deadwolf Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Mn
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
My lake place was broken into two years ago. They kicked in the door wrecking the door and frame. They were looking for drugs which I didn't have any, but they did damage dressers while looking in every room.

They were caught by the tribal police and went to the county jail. The tribal police said I should contact the sheriff's department and make up a list for the damage they did. I sent a list to the sheriff's office and never heard back from them. They were very uncooperative, wouldn't tell me the thieves names, when they would be going to court, or anything about restitution.

It cost me $325 for a new door and frame that was comparable to the old one. We bought some used dressers at garage sales.

To this day, we don't know who did this or whatever happened to them.


You got shagged.....I would have been so far up their backside, they would have been happy to give me the info i requested just to get rid of me.

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#5880884 - 04/19/17 11:44 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 12400
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Now that you know where he lives,send "Vinnie" to collect.

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#5880903 - 04/19/17 11:56 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Hupurest Offline
"Andy S wannabe"

Registered: 09/20/10
Posts: 2759
Loc: Alaska
Originally Posted By: Deadwolf
How all this came about is, my brother saw a article in the paper about the State of Mn has an account with millions of dollars it. It's all unclaimed restitution for people who are owed it. I haven't checked into it yet,or have a web address for it. I think i can find the info I need thru the Courthouse. The restitution was court ordered ,so i think it's valid until it's satisfied. The arsonist owes my parents (no insurance claim) which falls onto their estate now. I have been handling whats left of it.This guy now owns property that i could file a judgement against. It's a lot of money for sure,also stressful trying to get it. I would enjoy to see the look on his face more than anything.I have to make some more calls today to find out more. I have paper work to file (judgement) against the thief that owes me, but he doesn't own anything yet that i can file it on,so it just sits on my desk until he does.


you could also take your judgment to a collections company, and they will work on recovering it for a fee....
they will do bank sweeps, can garnish pay, put liens on tax returns...etc....

the company here would get back a decent chunk of the money that we would otherwise never see...
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#5880985 - 04/19/17 12:48 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Larry Baer Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/22/11
Posts: 522
Loc: Peoria County Illinois
Maybe the state collected the money and it's just sitting there waiting to be claimed? I have been involved in a few of these and the cards are stacked against honest people and victims. Try filing the paperwork and see what happens. Can't hurt. Maybe it will lead to some kind of closure.

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#5880999 - 04/19/17 01:01 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Trapper7]
Law Dog Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 9871
Loc: Central, SD
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
My lake place was broken into two years ago. They kicked in the door wrecking the door and frame. They were looking for drugs which I didn't have any, but they did damage dressers while looking in every room.

They were caught by the tribal police and went to the county jail. The tribal police said I should contact the sheriff's department and make up a list for the damage they did. I sent a list to the sheriff's office and never heard back from them. They were very uncooperative, wouldn't tell me the thieves names, when they would be going to court, or anything about restitution.

It cost me $325 for a new door and frame that was comparable to the old one. We bought some used dressers at garage sales.

To this day, we don't know who did this or whatever happened to them.


You get that kind of treatment go to the District Attorney if they play the same game go to the States Attorney for your State.
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#5881043 - 04/19/17 01:24 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Larry Baer]
Deadwolf Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Mn
Originally Posted By: Larry Baer
Maybe the state collected the money and it's just sitting there waiting to be claimed? I have been involved in a few of these and the cards are stacked against honest people and victims. Try filing the paperwork and see what happens. Can't hurt. Maybe it will lead to some kind of closure.


I have the court admin office looking up the details for me now. They will get back to me. Then i'll go from there. I was looking at the papers from the thief that owes me $700 for damages. I have till this June to take him back to court for non payment. I would have to call his probation officer and request a court hearing. If i could get him a yr in jail i'd call that payed in full.

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#5881249 - 04/19/17 05:01 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
waggler Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2038
Loc: Alaska and Washington State
Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted By: waggler
You can forgive someones offense, not hold a grudge, and still require him to take responsibility for his actions. God does that with us all the time.


God is going to hold us accountable for what He has forgiven us for?


I guess I didn't make my point clear. I'll try to explain it this way:

Some young guy gets his girlfriend pregnant, he regrets the error and confesses his sin to God, God forgives him, God doesn't hold a grudge, but that doesn't relieve the young guy from taking responsibility (financial or otherwise) for the the kid he helped produce.
I think as Christians, too many times we make God out to be one who will make all of our problems go away, doesn't necessarily work that way.
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#5881279 - 04/19/17 05:25 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
I don't think I mentioned anything about God making problems go away. Even with the Hebrew post. lol

You can't forgive someone then constantly bring it up, whatever the offense.


Edited by HobbieTrapper (04/19/17 05:27 PM)
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#5882492 - 04/20/17 08:43 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
the wife Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/15
Posts: 529
Loc: Central Mn
Ask yourself your motive for seeking restitution after so long. Will it make a difference in the end? Indeed make things right? Is the motive spite or revenge based?

Despite the order being re-awakened will the person(s) involved actually be held accountable/follow through, or will this drag out many more years with no different outcome?


If you are seeking the monitary value of the restitution then I would speak with a tax advisor, there is a way to claim a writeoff for unpaid debts on your taxes, I'm not sure if it's a federal or state (MN) thing but my mother went that route a few years ago after 15 years awaiting court-ordered funds. But once you claim it the debt is considered good.
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#5882654 - 04/21/17 01:23 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: the wife]
Deadwolf Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Mn
Originally Posted By: the wife
Ask yourself your motive for seeking restitution after so long. Will it make a difference in the end? Indeed make things right? Is the motive spite or revenge based?

Despite the order being re-awakened will the person(s) involved actually be held accountable/follow through, or will this drag out many more years with no different outcome?


If you are seeking the monitary value of the restitution then I would speak with a tax advisor, there is a way to claim a writeoff for unpaid debts on your taxes, I'm not sure if it's a federal or state (MN) thing but my mother went that route a few years ago after 15 years awaiting court-ordered funds. But once you claim it the debt is considered good.


spite or revenge? You can call it what you want. I call it justice... To many times the victims are victimized again, by not being able to collect on a debt.But yet,have to pick up the pieces these criminals left behind as they serve their time,pay their fines and walk away. Try not paying your next ticket and see what happens. That's the way it should be.The criminal should keep going back to prison until he starts to pay his debt back. Myself,i would like to see look on his face as his property is being seized.He probably would have the same look as my parents did when they found out their business was burned down.


Edited by Deadwolf (04/21/17 01:25 AM)

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#5882728 - 04/21/17 06:48 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
I work with a guy who is going to really be disappointed if he doesn't get to see a couple homosexuals thrown in a lake of fire while he is waiting at the Pearly Gates. lol

I get the whole "justice" thing, I just don't think we should be taking pleasure in the demise of others. Doing so begs the question, what makes you any different than the pyro enjoying striking the match.

Carry on.
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#5882774 - 04/21/17 07:20 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
bass10 Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/17/09
Posts: 343
Loc: Akron, Ohio
[quote=HobbieTrapper]I work with a guy who is going to really be disappointed if he doesn't get to see a couple homosexuals thrown in a lake of fire while he is waiting at the Pearly Gates. lol

I get the whole "justice" thing, I just don't think we should be taking pleasure in the demise of others. Doing so begs the question, what makes you any different than the pyro enjoying striking the match.

Carry on.

Well some guys screwed my wife, some thugs stole my car, some pieces of shiz broke into my cabin and stole my personal items, some customers aren't paying me for the work I provided, etc. Oh well its all good I can't stoop to their level and be like them. BS, I'd nine them all given the chance. 30 years ago the day of reckoning is coming and you better be saved, yeh OK. Go pay your tithes.

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#5882788 - 04/21/17 07:35 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: bass10]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted By: bass10
Well some guys screwed my wife, some thugs stole my car, some pieces of shiz broke into my cabin and stole my personal items, some customers aren't paying me for the work I provided, etc. Oh well its all good I can't stoop to their level and be like them. BS, I'd nine them all given the chance. 30 years ago the day of reckoning is coming and you better be saved, yeh OK. Go pay your tithes.


Ever wonder why all that happened to you in the first place?
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#5882792 - 04/21/17 07:37 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"

Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 7739
Loc: potter co. p.a.
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#5882817 - 04/21/17 08:05 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
bass10 Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/17/09
Posts: 343
Loc: Akron, Ohio
Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted By: bass10
Well some guys screwed my wife, some thugs stole my car, some pieces of shiz broke into my cabin and stole my personal items, some customers aren't paying me for the work I provided, etc. Oh well its all good I can't stoop to their level and be like them. BS, I'd nine them all given the chance. 30 years ago the day of reckoning is coming and you better be saved, yeh OK. Go pay your tithes.


Ever wonder why all that happened to you in the first place?


That was all hypothetical, I have some bad luck here and there but that would be rough. I have actually been married to my high school sweetheart for 30 years after dating for 5, neither has ever swayed.

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#5882828 - 04/21/17 08:20 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: bass10]
HobbieTrapper Offline
"Chippendale Trapper"

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 8903
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted By: bass10


That was all hypothetical, I have some bad luck here and there but that would be rough. I have actually been married to my high school sweetheart for 30 years after dating for 5, neither has ever swayed.


35 years, Congratulations!!!!
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#5883108 - 04/21/17 02:52 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Aix sponsa Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 5389
Loc: Louisiana
Does he have something you could burn down to return the favor?
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#5883191 - 04/21/17 04:58 PM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
Law Dog Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 9871
Loc: Central, SD
The reason you should get paid is the guy most likely has nothing and never will but at the same time has no problem taking/destroying whatever you have without any problem.

Same type of guy that goes to the hospital, get a cell phone, rents a place to live at and never pays what he owes. We all have most likely been paying this guys way all of his life, it's his turn to pay up once in his life!
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#5883896 - 04/22/17 10:55 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
the wife Offline
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Registered: 08/08/15
Posts: 529
Loc: Central Mn
Originally Posted By: Deadwolf
Originally Posted By: the wife
Ask yourself your motive for seeking restitution after so long. Will it make a difference in the end? Indeed make things right? Is the motive spite or revenge based?

Despite the order being re-awakened will the person(s) involved actually be held accountable/follow through, or will this drag out many more years with no different outcome?


If you are seeking the monitary value of the restitution then I would speak with a tax advisor, there is a way to claim a writeoff for unpaid debts on your taxes, I'm not sure if it's a federal or state (MN) thing but my mother went that route a few years ago after 15 years awaiting court-ordered funds. But once you claim it the debt is considered good.


spite or revenge? You can call it what you want. I call it justice... To many times the victims are victimized again, by not being able to collect on a debt.But yet,have to pick up the pieces these criminals left behind as they serve their time,pay their fines and walk away. Try not paying your next ticket and see what happens. That's the way it should be.The criminal should keep going back to prison until he starts to pay his debt back. Myself,i would like to see look on his face as his property is being seized.He probably would have the same look as my parents did when they found out their business was burned down.



Based on your reply I wouldn't call it revenge, but using my words it is to make things right. I used the other labels to help you self-reflect on your reasoning since you were asking us what we would do. It already seems you know your answer. If a judge determined there to be restitution I would expect the perp would be able to make amends. It's the principle of things to you, and that's ok.
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#5883900 - 04/22/17 11:09 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: the wife]
Deadwolf Offline
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Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Mn
Originally Posted By: the wife


Based on your reply I wouldn't call it revenge, but using my words it is to make things right. I used the other labels to help you self-reflect on your reasoning since you were asking us what we would do. It already seems you know your answer. If a judge determined there to be restitution I would expect the perp would be able to make amends. It's the principle of things to you, and that's ok.


I apologize if if i seemed to harsh. Yes it is the principle of it. I don't need the money,but this happens all to often without long term consequences and that's what irritates me the most. The wife tells me this is a heart attack in the making.

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#5883913 - 04/22/17 11:47 AM Re: Restitution owed,What would you do? [Re: Deadwolf]
humptulips Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 674
Loc: Washington State
I guess different in different States. I had my car stolen in 1980 and about $2500 damage done. Three guys were caught and the Court ordered restitution. Those guys could not get off probation until the Restitution was paid. It took 20 years but one guy got sick of going to see his probation officer because he finally paid it all off.

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