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#2538049 - 04/08/11 09:08 PM Basic Predator Bait Making?
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Registered: 06/15/10
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Loc: Iowa
Here's a way to make a meat based k9/cat bait. The ingredients I added are only my choice you can add as many or few additives as you would like. Also the meat may be mice, beaver, cat, groundhog, muskrat, rabbit, ect... You're only limited by your imagination but this will give you an idea what is involved and give you a look at bait making step by step.

1. This is one gallon of meat base diced into 1" pieces. I removed all the guts, fur, and head then diced the rest bones and all. (There are no bones over 1" long)...



2. I then put the lid on this bucket and set this bucket inside a 5 gal. bucket with a lid on it. I made 4 pinholes in the lid of the 5 gal. bucket to allow gases to escape but to keep flies out. (it is very important to never let flies get into the bait) I set the bucket outside in the sun for a few days to reach a medium level of taint. At that point it looked like this...



3. *I poured the meat into the 5 gal. bucket for easier mixing. I then mixed one pint sodium benzoate (preservative) with warm water til it was dissolved and added it along with a pint propylene glycol or glyceryn (anti-freeze), some beaver castor and some muskrat glands and a few other "secret" things like that to the meat base and stirred it well.

*instead of step #3 above you could just order a pint of Dobbins Bait Solution, add it to the gallon of meat and go on to step #4.

4. I replaced the lid on the bucket and moved it to a cool place. I will stir it once or twice weekly for two weeks or so to allow complete permeation and intermingling of the ingredients.

Here it is after two weeks...



5. You can then jar it up and it's good to store any place out of direct sunlight.

I hope this gives you some ideas to try your own concoction. If you do let me know how it works.

A video on the bait grinder I now use. It's a #32 grinder, 3/4hp motor, and 3/4" holes in the grinder plate...



~ADC~


Edited by ~ADC~ (04/08/11 09:28 PM)
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#2538055 - 04/08/11 09:11 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2310
Loc: Va
ADC...thanks for posting this. One question though.....why do you call for a pint of sodium benzoate per gallon as opposed to Paul's bait solution, which only calls for 2 tablespoons?

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#2538074 - 04/08/11 09:17 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 06/15/10
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Loc: Iowa
You can get by with a 8-12oz. IMO, but I'd not go any less than that. I think Paul's Solution has some SB already in it, and you add the extra 2T to that. I could be wrong on that though.

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#2538078 - 04/08/11 09:19 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
Paul Dobbins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
ADC is correct, my bait solution is loaded with Sodium Benzoate. There is also a packet containing 2 tablespoons of Sodium Benzoate attached to the bottle for a bit of added insurance.
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#2538132 - 04/08/11 09:44 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Va
thanks for the clarification

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#2555620 - 04/22/11 02:27 AM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 11/04/10
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Loc: Gitche Gumee Wisconsin
Very nice ADC !
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#2560072 - 04/25/11 07:25 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
Lostinthewoods Offline
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Registered: 02/15/10
Posts: 203
Loc: West Michigan
Paul or ADC, I have a bait I'm working on for K9s. It has beaver,muskrat,moose,deer,chicken.(most of the meat was treated with Dobbins sol.) I have also put in glands from beaver, muskrats,mink,fox,coyote and some strait castor and oil sac. It has a sweet meaty perfume smell to it, and my dog starts drooling every time he smells it. What do I add to keep it right where it's at.(a fixative??????)
Should I stick with a food bait or should I spike it with some passion stuff and go as a all call lure/bait?

Thanks,
Lost.


Edited by Lostinthewoods (04/25/11 07:27 PM)
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#2560135 - 04/25/11 07:53 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Add sodium benzoate (S.B.) at the rate of one cup / gallon of meat. If you have added Paul's solution per the directions it should be preserved as is though. I'd only add the extra S.B. if you have more meat base than one gallon per pint of Paul's solution.

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#2561471 - 04/26/11 08:31 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
Redeagle Offline
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Registered: 07/28/08
Posts: 581
Loc: Missouri
ADC, you remind me of the movie Fargo, where the guy is running his buddy's chopped up body parts through the wood chipper! LOL

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#2561481 - 04/26/11 08:38 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 06/15/10
Posts: 5017
Loc: Iowa
lol, I spent 5 hours running stuff through the grinder Sunday afternoon, over 50 gallons of various critters but no humans. My wife actually ran the grinder most of the time while I prepped the critters to grind. She did real well until the mink butts. laugh

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#5882497 - 04/20/17 08:44 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 06/15/10
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Loc: Iowa
ttt
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#5882623 - 04/20/17 11:23 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
Paul Dobbins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
Lostinthewoods, you should be good to go as is. I wouldn't add anything more to it. The solution has a fixative in it.
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#5882708 - 04/21/17 06:02 AM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 12/28/15
Posts: 496
Loc: NNY
Great thread. Ordering Paul's solution today. Question- After step 5 can jar be left tight til use on the line?

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#5883496 - 04/21/17 10:10 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
Mitch L Offline
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Registered: 08/02/13
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Loc: Iowa
08- that worked for me!

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#5883744 - 04/22/17 08:00 AM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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#5887001 - 04/25/17 01:39 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Loc: France
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#5887845 - 04/26/17 08:49 AM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
Golf ball Offline
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Registered: 12/19/14
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Loc: E central Il
Ha ha ha here we go again , I love it ! Francis would you please define cooked. I'm sure you know something that you want us to figure out . I'm just not positive wheather you want us to do a test with cooked ( baked, fried, boiled, broiled ) meat or sun rendered ( tainted ) meat. I hope this translates well and you don't think I'm being a smart arse ! I do think it's funny how things don't always translate well but in this case I have wondered for years if frying, baking, broiling, or boiling the meat would help or hinder the bait making prosses. We all know what frying or broiling a fresh steak does for us ! Would frying a tainted steak be the answer for coyote or fox ???

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#5888310 - 04/26/17 06:04 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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#5888757 - 04/27/17 08:09 AM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
francis 31220 Offline
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Registered: 01/15/16
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Loc: France
Je remet le lien https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction Chacun en pense ce qu'il veut.
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#5894177 - 05/03/17 03:37 PM Re: Basic Predator Bait Making? [Re: ~ADC~]
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Registered: 05/08/07
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Loc: Flint, Michigan
Lots of old recipes said to brown or blacken meat to make bait out of it in a frypan with lard. I think he wants you to compare a browned or blackened piece of meat to your bait in 2 different test holes.
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