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7 (now 8) one year old beavers from same pond #5867686 04/05/17 02:33 PM 04/05/17 02:33 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan M Michigan Trappin OP trapper
Michigan Trappin OP trapper M Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan	Just caught number 7 this morning. 3 in the fall 17-18lbs 2 under the ice 20lbs and 2 this spring 18 and 23 lbs Every spring for the past several years I would catch 4 kits and one mature male from this pond and the female keeps giving me the slip (she is a whole other story) But 7 yearlings this year so far, can they really have that many young? I did discover another lodge over on the other side of the road from this pond in the nieghbors pond but find it hard to believe they are coming over to this pond Any thoughts? Last edited by Michigan Trappin; 05/15/17 03:22 PM. Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!! If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5867710 04/05/17 02:57 PM 04/05/17 02:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,238 Illinois R ratbrain trapper
ratbrain trapper R Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,238 Illinois	Caught the same amount of young myself in a state owned pond/creek this winter.

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5872176 04/09/17 09:11 PM 04/09/17 09:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,684 Virginia 5 52Carl trapper
52Carl trapper 5 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,684 Virginia	I caught one which had 8 fully furred little ones about ready to pop out any day. I don't know if they have a pecking order for teats or if they feed in shifts, but I am sure they find a way to raise that many.

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: 52Carl] #5872228 04/09/17 09:54 PM 04/09/17 09:54 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan M Michigan Trappin OP trapper
Michigan Trappin OP trapper M Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan	Originally Posted By: 52Carl I caught one which had 8 fully furred little ones about ready to pop out any day. I don't know if they have a pecking order for teats or if they feed in shifts, but I am sure they find a way to raise that many. Was she a really large one, the female at this location is got to be pushing 5 years old, I have seen some things that make me believe she is very large Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!! If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5872295 04/09/17 10:41 PM 04/09/17 10:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 377 New York Jim Comstock trapper
Jim Comstock trapper Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 377 New York	That's a pile of young. I have seen 6 and 7 in pregnant females, but not often. I think Rally Hess said he had seen 8 or 9 in Minnesota. If a beaver had that many young she should be a big one 50's, 60's, maybe bigger? If you look at how high the trees are cut and how big the trees are the beaver tackle it can be a good indicator. http://www.comstockcustomcage.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Comstock-Custom-Cage-LLC/343556115744235

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5872450 04/10/17 06:09 AM 04/10/17 06:09 AM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan M Michigan Trappin OP trapper
Michigan Trappin OP trapper M Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan	Yea. It's the hiegths of some of the cut offs that are some of the indicators as to how big I believe she is. Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!! If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5872526 04/10/17 07:59 AM 04/10/17 07:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 377 New York Jim Comstock trapper
Jim Comstock trapper Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 377 New York	Additionally, when you first arrive at a colony and may not know how long the colony has been there or how many beaver are there. When you trees cut at two different heights on the same tree, two beaver working on the same tree, it can often be mom or dad on top on the high cut and two year olds below. I made a lamp out of one of them a foot apart, Yellow Birch. Those colonies usually have a mess of beaver, sometimes 8-12. At times in the north you may find beaver cuts 3 or 4 feet high which would seem to mean the beaver would have to be 5 feet tall. In spring with a deep snow pack they will climb out for some fresh foot as the ice goes off the edge of the ponds, climbing up on solid frozen corn snow to make some higher than normal cuts. http://www.comstockcustomcage.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Comstock-Custom-Cage-LLC/343556115744235

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5874300 04/11/17 10:43 PM 04/11/17 10:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 10,074 WI - Wisconsin A AJE trapper
AJE trapper A Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 10,074 WI - Wisconsin	Is there a certain time of year they do more tree chewing?

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5903734 05/15/17 03:23 PM 05/15/17 03:23 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan M Michigan Trappin OP trapper
Michigan Trappin OP trapper M Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan	Number 8 caught this morning. She's a production machine Too bad the farmer needs her gone Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!! If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5904100 05/15/17 10:00 PM 05/15/17 10:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,165 Central NC T traprjohn trapper
traprjohn trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,165 Central NC	WTG! Yep, ya never know. I'm setting a personal record with a 71, 2 @ 50 and 3 @ 30 pounds out of the same pond...in the last 3 weeks. www.sevenoakstrappingsupplies.com for trap mods and gear The 10 Commandments are not suggestions. Buy a soldiers meal EVERY chance you can.

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5904111 05/15/17 10:05 PM 05/15/17 10:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,275 Lakeland,Minnesota B Bogmaster trapper
Bogmaster trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,275 Lakeland,Minnesota	Had one that raised 10 a year.She weighed 86 pounds when caught in the fall. Missed her the first year,caught 10 young of the year and 10 from the year before and the male. She found another mate and raised 10 the next spring . Tom If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5904551 05/16/17 12:45 PM 05/16/17 12:45 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan M Michigan Trappin OP trapper
Michigan Trappin OP trapper M Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan	Just picked up kit #6 from another site. Half of them have been black. Too bad it's a site where fur trapping would be too much work in the winter as they are pretty Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!! If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5904643 05/16/17 02:59 PM 05/16/17 02:59 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan M Michigan Trappin OP trapper
Michigan Trappin OP trapper M Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,828 Southwest Michigan	This is the second ADC site I have had black beavers at. Would like some on easier sites in the winter but both of these are not good winter sites Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!! If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5904928 05/16/17 08:46 PM 05/16/17 08:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 377 New York Jim Comstock trapper
Jim Comstock trapper Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 377 New York	Amazing, ten beaver in one litter. Minnesota has good feed, lily pads, bog colonies. 86 pounds is huge. Just like to see one in person. Think I saw a 75 but just once. Best I have done was a bunch of 60's. We have some with single colonies that have 12 to 15 beaver in a single house. The deep woods beaver that only eat hardwood bark seem to have smaller litters up north, don't grow as fast. Neat to get the black beaver. Used to get 2 to 5 black ones a year in Virginia. Would be fun to live trap and move the black ones to accessible areas for another year. The lily pond beaver seem to be the fattest, healthiest. Noticed that Minnesota beaver that don't seem that big still really stretch, very soft pliable hides that just keep stretching. http://www.comstockcustomcage.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Comstock-Custom-Cage-LLC/343556115744235

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5904972 05/16/17 09:17 PM 05/16/17 09:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,275 Lakeland,Minnesota B Bogmaster trapper
Bogmaster trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,275 Lakeland,Minnesota	On my northwestern line,totally black beaver,run about 6%.The black influence is seen in many of the others. I have taken several over 70 pounds,but the 86 pounder has been the largest. The harder to get to---the more large beaver to get. I believe if the 86 pounder had been taken in the spring--it would have been close to 100 pounds. Tom If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member

Re: 7 one year old beavers from same pond [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5908001 05/21/17 06:02 AM 05/21/17 06:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,785 Georgia K Kirk De trapper
Kirk De trapper K Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,785 Georgia	Quote: When ever I caught more than 4 kits I have always eventually caught another female or found that one was shot or trapped. I was always thinking a female could have more than four kits because of what others have said in the past and pictures here recently have shown. Several Gov. agencies trying to promote themselves have used beaver autopsy to show how many kits they had in the litter that year. I always laughed at how gullible the listeners were. They used the show as a tool to win over my competition from counties and cities preying on the limited knowledge their listeners had. I am sure that more than 4 is possible, but it has been my experience that it is extremely uncommon. At least where I live. _________________________ http://www.advancedtrap.com Maybe it is a regional thing that may allow for common catches that show more than 4 kits per litter. It could also be the use of exposed sets in regions that have numerous trappers which increase the number of older educated beaver. Because the trapper never caught the educated beaver it would encourage the belief more than four kits were born to one female. It would be especially true of a trapper that was more confident of his ability than what really had been taking place. The Real Reasons Animals Are Detecting Your Sets And Devices by Kirk Dekalb https://amzn.to/2Hn1hxv

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