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#5952011 - 07/16/17 05:01 PM Snare presses and swagers
Jason Turner Offline
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Registered: 01/25/15
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Loc: Arkansas
Been looking at swagers this weekend, found this one per ADC:

https://www.mfrexpress.com/24-swaging-to...CFUo7gQodEqUL1g

And Rally Hess offers one as well. However, I'm going to build with 1x19 on the business end and I do not want to use the swager for crimping steel hex nuts or steel ends.

Does anyone have the contact information for Lee who builds the snare press?
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#5952019 - 07/16/17 05:19 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
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Loc: Iowa
https://www.schmittent.com/big-red-snare-press-crimper

Last I knew Larry Hall out of Indiana made the presses like above.

I'd only use aluminum or copper stops with the standard bench swaggers. The press works on 6-32 or 8-23 nuts as well as aluminum stops.
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#5952136 - 07/16/17 07:42 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Jonesie Offline
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Does anyone have a pic of a crimped stop or ferral from the big red snare press?
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#5952143 - 07/16/17 07:47 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jonesie]
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Originally Posted By: Jonesie
Does anyone have a pic of a crimped stop or ferral from the big red snare press?


If I can find it after Photobucket gave us shaft... mad
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#5952151 - 07/16/17 07:51 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
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Loc: Iowa


I must of lost it but you can see the shape of this 8-32 nut, the bottom of the press is dipped in slightly and the top is flat so it smashes them flat with a rounded side on the bottom.
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#5952325 - 07/16/17 10:58 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
2 TRAPS Offline
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Do you find the big red to be better or faster crimping tool for building snares, drowning cables, extensions and cable stakes?
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#5952330 - 07/16/17 11:17 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: 2 TRAPS]
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Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: 2 TRAPS
Do you find the big red to be better or faster crimping tool for building snares, drowning cables, extensions and cable stakes?


Its main advantage is its ability to crimp the small nuts. The swaggers give a more professional look to aluminium stops though if a person was selling snares, cable stakes, etc...

You can build snares and cables with a hammer too (if you can stand the hammering), just up to the person to decide what option will work best for their particular wants and needs.
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#5952367 - 07/17/17 06:02 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
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I believe on both alum and steel hammering always made a better hold but folks did not want to buy the snares and CR's that was hammered. Crimping holds when done correctly with alum as long as the swagger or press jaw pressures are correct. when I was a lineman crimping copper and aluminum lines the crimps had to expand in length to hold the long spans we was running. On the big wires they would expand quite a bit.

ADC do you find with the big red press that one crimp on a aluminum stop will hold with no problems on say a coyote?
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#5952472 - 07/17/17 08:55 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
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On the aluminum stops I leave a little cable sticking through then crush one side then the other far side then the middle that seems to work the best for me. On the nuts I crush them with the smallest hole and finish then off with the tip where needed to even out the nut and get a even crush on the nut using the multi swagger. Tough on it for sure but it takes the abuse so far not sure about the newer imported ones!
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#5952576 - 07/17/17 11:23 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jonesie]
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Registered: 06/15/10
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Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: Jonesie
ADC do you find with the big red press that one crimp on a aluminum stop will hold with no problems on say a coyote?


I traded my press for a bench swagger for more professional looking results when I thought about selling a few snares. The press smashes 6-32 nuts and 8-32 nuts, which is great for deer stops and the end stop near the lock but I had a few of them pop off the end at the anchor point when using an end swivel (if you used an adjustable loop they would hold just fine.) I originally got the press to use nuts to save money on aluminum stops so I didn't use a lot of them but what I did use held just fine.
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#5952584 - 07/17/17 11:35 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
yoteskinner Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Hillsdale, IN
I use a 4 ton punch press with a set of hex dies. it presses from 6 sides where as a hammer only presses from 2 sides. Plus, the ferrule is uniform when crimped.
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#5953346 - 07/18/17 09:01 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Tactical.20 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: N.W. Iowa
I have broke my bench swagger twice now, I think it's adjusted right

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#5953357 - 07/18/17 09:09 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
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Loc: Central, SD
Broke the pivot pin on mine and replaced it with a new one the old pin looked like a bad casting on the break line never had any problems after that!
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#5953707 - 07/18/17 04:32 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Tactical.20 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Mine breaks between the two sides, set- adjustment screw is on that piece


Edited by Tactical.20 (07/18/17 04:33 PM)

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#5954360 - 07/19/17 08:18 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Jonesie Offline
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Loc: Monroeville NJ
they wear out fast if your making a lot of snares.


Edited by Jonesie (07/25/17 06:15 AM)
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#5954372 - 07/19/17 08:29 AM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Law Dog Offline
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Not the US made ones have made thousands of snares with mine for over 40 years and its still working!
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#5954574 - 07/19/17 12:21 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jonesie]
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Registered: 06/15/10
Posts: 5013
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: Jonesie
they ware out fast if your making a lot of snares.


Mine shows no signs of ware. Its only 8 or so years old though.

If you're breaking one you must be trying to smash something harder than aluminum stops and ferrules????
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#5954778 - 07/19/17 05:13 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
AKAjust Offline
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Registered: 03/23/14
Posts: 343
Loc: SE Iowa USA
I use a 6 ton harbor freight hydraulic bench press. Presses them flat. It will split the smaller ones if not annealed.
I started with a hammer but the results were never quite the same. The ram on this thing needs replaced because of wear--its rounding at the edges. I also wish it had a die that would hold the smaller nuts straight.
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#5962680 - 07/29/17 04:36 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Dennis W Offline
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Registered: 06/02/10
Posts: 175
Loc: Bryant, IN
Anybody use the swager in the link at the top of this thread? Been thinking of getting one. I would just be crimping aluminum ferrules for cable stakes on snares.

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#5962817 - 07/29/17 08:34 PM Re: Snare presses and swagers [Re: Jason Turner]
Tom Fisher Offline
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Registered: 06/11/08
Posts: 337
Loc: el vado, nm
I found an MD-6 press for next to nothing with dies, works great with al. ferrules, nuts I hammer.

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