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#5952044 - 07/16/17 06:02 PM Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65!
Green Bay Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 400
Loc: Wisconsin
I just got done reading the Green Bay Press Gazette and there was an article on what the city pays for nuisance muskrat removal. They hired a company for $8,100 to trap 21 retention ponds. They ended up with 98 muskrats.

Makes me feel bad since I averaged $2.78 at the recent NAFA auction trapping the same geographic area smirk

Brian

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#5952046 - 07/16/17 06:04 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Trapper Dahlgren Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/15/16
Posts: 651
Loc: Michigan
lmao laugh

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#5952054 - 07/16/17 06:19 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
walleyed Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/21/10
Posts: 3040
Loc: Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
Originally Posted By: Green Bay
I just got done reading the Green Bay Press Gazette and there was an article on what the city pays for nuisance muskrat removal. They hired a company for $8,100 to trap 21 retention ponds. They ended up with 98 muskrats.

Makes me feel bad since I averaged $2.78 at the recent NAFA auction trapping the same geographic area smirk

Brian


The City Of Green Bay, Wisconsin Probably Required a $5,000,000.00 Million Dollar Liability Insurance Policy For The NWCO to operate on The City's Property.

I once missed out on a Similar Deal here in New York State because I was unwilling to carry that much Insurance.

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#5952063 - 07/16/17 06:30 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 12347
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Our provincial trappers federation provides all members with 5 million liability insurance.Most places require the 5 million before you can do nuisance work.


Edited by Boco (07/16/17 06:32 PM)

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#5952068 - 07/16/17 06:33 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
WIMarshRAT Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/06/13
Posts: 1960
Loc: WI
I know it's not the Horicon, but someone would have paid money for exclusivity to those easy access retention ponds. LOL
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#5952088 - 07/16/17 07:02 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Finster Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/13/13
Posts: 5367
Loc: Fredonia, PA.
CRIPES! I would have trapped them for free! Make that offer. It's easy trapp'in.
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#5952101 - 07/16/17 07:11 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
lumberjack391 Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/27/17
Posts: 39
Loc: PA
The city didn't pay- you did! (That is, if you live their).

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#5952108 - 07/16/17 07:19 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
ajw78 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/29/15
Posts: 210
Loc: WI
Sounds like the way cities spend money unreal

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#5952119 - 07/16/17 07:26 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
BillyTraps Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/26/16
Posts: 113
Loc: eastern washington
leave it to the government to pay someone for what others would do for free

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#5952122 - 07/16/17 07:29 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 12347
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Big difference between fur trapping and nuisance trapping.Nuisance trapper gets paid for a service.Fur trapper gets paid for fur.


Edited by Boco (07/16/17 07:32 PM)

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#5952134 - 07/16/17 07:37 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Jonesie Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 652
Loc: Monroeville NJ
Go get your wildlife control lic, you business lic, tax Id number, commercial auto ins, liability ins. get your marketing program going and you can go low ball that contract.
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#5952175 - 07/16/17 08:16 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
NE Wildlife Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/16/12
Posts: 695
Loc: Northeast Wisconsin
Sounds like it was priced about right!
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#5952209 - 07/16/17 08:56 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: BillyTraps]
PA_K-9_Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/10/17
Posts: 82
Loc: Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: BillyTraps
leave it to the government to pay someone for what others would do for free

My thoughts almost exactly

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#5952254 - 07/16/17 09:43 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Calvin Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 3658
Loc: South metro, MN
Big difference between running a hobby trapping line and running a business where you actually have to take in account your expenses...and pay taxes.
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#5952329 - 07/16/17 11:13 PM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Bogmaster Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2711
Loc: Lakeland,Minnesota
I am sure most would not trap for free--unless they had more than one screw loose.Most times the fur is worthless .
Trapping within cities can draw a crowd in a hurry--and many if not all,are not pro trapping.
You need to earn good money to even consider trapping in the city.
Tom
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#5952350 - 07/17/17 03:44 AM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
nimzy Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/01/13
Posts: 1839
Loc: WI
I'm in the wrong business

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#5952361 - 07/17/17 05:39 AM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Sshaffer Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/06/17
Posts: 42
Loc: West Virginia
I ran my own nuisance wildlife business for 16 years. I've trapped fur for 51. There is no comparison between the 2. When I first started I thought wow look at how much I'm making. The insurance is only part of it. Being an LLC is a must. I carried a million for $650 a year. You could get a rider for the other for million for just that job. However the contract would be the key. You'd have to have it ironclad to protect yourself. I did a job like that once. They had so many stipulaions. It took me 3 months of nearly daily meetings emails, or calls before I won the contract.
To make enough money to support your family you need to do everything. Bats were what I was known for. 3 story buildings. Slate roofs. 18 hp gas vaccum for cleanout of bat guano up to 5 ft deep in places alone was $8,000. On all structures removing animals required warranties.
I once did a bat job, exclusion, cleanout, and re-insulation that required I pay any help $35 an hr.
My best month was $37,500. My expenses that month was over $17,000. Before taxes.
My best money was made trapping ground moles. Most years I had 750 traps in the ground from thaw until freezeup. Try moving moles from 10 acres. I dealt with the hairy tail species. High population in small area. Sometimes as many as 50 in a half acre. Once had 30 dozen traps dropped shiped. I once made over$12,000 in one month trapping moles.
Wore out tracks fast. Most years I logged over 50,000 miles a year.
Self- employment tax at the end of the year is 15.5% of your net. NPAT (net profit after taxes) is considered good over 25%. Most years mine was 40%. Other guys I knew were at 20%
If you just dabbled in it the required business expenses would make it unprofitable.
Anyone ever want info on doing nuisance work let me know. I'm retired from that now. Last year I trapped for fur for the first time without also running my business.
Sweet bliss!!!!

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#5952370 - 07/17/17 06:10 AM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Green Bay Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 400
Loc: Wisconsin
The thing that most surprised me was the low take. 98 muskrats out of 21 ponds seems really low to me. I trap a private pond not far from one of these public ponds and that pond held 26 rats.

Brian

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#5952372 - 07/17/17 06:15 AM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: Green Bay]
Jonesie Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 652
Loc: Monroeville NJ
I just finalized 2 coyote contracts that each took 2 months just to get through the red tape and All the legal crap to even start the job. negotiating just what they wanted vs what will work in doing the jobs was a night mare. those prices don't seem to bad for the 3 to 4 moths or more that was involved in getting to and doing the job. most likely the trapper did a good job on the number of rats, any one doing this trapping fur or ADC knows rat numbers in pond are no where near marshes or river systems. That ADC company was not hired to catch numbers of rats they was hired to solve a problem.


Edited by Jonesie (07/17/17 06:17 AM)
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#5952378 - 07/17/17 06:22 AM Re: Green Bay Muskrats averaged $82.65! [Re: BillyTraps]
Hern Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 571
Loc: Pennsyltucky
Sounds like the way cities spend money unreal

You folks sound like the town council & volunteers would bring their shovels & pipe wrench to dig up and repair water main leak, because someone would do it for free.

Green Bay did right. They hired an experienced, skilled person, with the proper tools to do the job right, in a timely manner.

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