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2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread #5957870
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What have my fellow Mainers been up to? Anyone persisting through the bad fur prices and ludicrous regulations to trap this fall? I didn't get much chance to trap last fall/winter between college and logging, but I'm looking to get back into the swing of things this fall and hopefully work up a decent pile of fur, maybe even some marten.

Thanks, Alex


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Going to trap at least some muskrats during early season then maybe some mink,otter sets with a few sets for bobcats thrown in.Maybe just maybe a few fisher and marten sets.


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Ran my first long line last year and learned a lot because of a very generous friend. Caught a pile of fur, learned a little about fur handling, and had the best time of my life.

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Anyone putting out some steel for marten and fisher yet?


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Caught 114 muskrats and a mink.Not going to trap marten and fisher untill they do away with the exclusion cages.


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going to set for marten and fisher tommrow.got 6 beavers, 4 rats ,2 otters and 2 coyotes so far.bruce t good job on the rats. good luck everyone.

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Thanks.Good luck trapping.You using the exclusion cages for fisher with the opening in the side or the front?


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I have both types. they are all wire i am not a fan of them. but will see what happens.

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I'm using a 50/50 mix of wood and wire with my marten boxes, and my fisher box is wire. I've heard of quite a few people getting fisher in their marten boxes.


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last year got 5 marten and 5 fisher in them out of 36 traps.

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The ones they are getting in their marten boxes are females and small males.I'm hearing the fisher exclusion cages with the opening on the side is working much better then the one with the opening in the front.At least they are catching a few.If you don't mind let me know what you find out on the trapline.Thanks,Bruce


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Originally Posted By: cd85
last year got 5 marten and 5 fisher in them out of 36 traps.

Of the 5 fisher were they caught with the openings on the side of the fisher exclusion cage or the front,or marten sets?


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bruce you are right if i was to build more i would do the side entrance ones.Even marten were refusing the ones with front entrace with baffle in it.

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they were the front ones all small males and females,

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Set 6 Marten sets today and 3 mink/muskrat sets. My exclusion devices are made out of wire, but I have one that I made out of wood to try out this year. I set the wooden one on the ground the rest are wired to leaning or downed logs. Anyone set their wooden boxes on the ground and any advice on setting them on the ground?

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Originally Posted By: Kired
Set 6 Marten sets today and 3 mink/muskrat sets. My exclusion devices are made out of wire, but I have one that I made out of wood to try out this year. I set the wooden one on the ground the rest are wired to leaning or downed logs. Anyone set their wooden boxes on the ground and any advice on setting them on the ground?

I have done the same as you with wiring the wire up and setting wood on the ground. I don't have a whole lot of knowledge of the devices since this is my first year using them heavily. All I know is that I have been told to mark them well before any threats of snow, because once they are buried they are hard to recover.


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Good luck.All Keep me posted if you don't mind.


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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Caught 114 muskrats and a mink.Not going to trap marten and fisher untill they do away with the exclusion cages.

I do believe that there is a strong possibility of this.

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Originally Posted By: proratman
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Caught 114 muskrats and a mink.Not going to trap marten and fisher untill they do away with the exclusion cages.

I do believe that there is a strong possibility of this.

I have heard that there was a possibility of it happening this past summer, but people weren't able to work things out to get it done.


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That would be nice.Miss trapping fisher and marten.


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In a perfect world, SAM could lobby Gov LePage to work with the Trump Administration to resolve this non-sense of an endangered specie. The Wikipedia definition of endangered specie is as follows; " An endangered species is a species which has been categorized to become extinct"

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Today's first run of the whole line netted a large weasel, with some brown still on the back

Alex


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Originally Posted By: beaver trapper
Today's first run of the whole line netted a large weasel, with some brown still on the back

Alex

How often will you be running your line?

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In a perfect world, SAM could lobby Gov LePage to work with the Trump Administration to resolve this non-sense of an endangered specie. The Wikipedia definition of endangered specie is as follows; " An endangered species is a species which has been categorized to become extinct"

Would be awesome.


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Originally Posted By: proratman
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Today's first run of the whole line netted a large weasel, with some brown still on the back

Alex

How often will you be running your line?

Running a 3 day check right now because I have some sets in organized towns. Once it gets colder I will go to a 5 day check in just unorganized towns. A 3 day check is hard right now with school, but I'm making it work.

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Its not that cold yet.Want to keep an eye on that 3 day check.


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Been focusing on hunting until the fur gets better. Got my deer opening day, been hunting expanded since. Been putting a good hurting on the geese too but can't wait to set some traps. Lots of places lined up this year.

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Congrats on your deer


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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Its not that cold yet.Want to keep an eye on that 3 day check.

Only do a 3 day check for one stretch of the week. I do daily checks for the rest of the week.

Alex


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That should work


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Seems like it should be a good year for otter. Sign is plentiful.

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Originally Posted By: beaver trapper
Seems like it should be a good year for otter. Sign is plentiful.

Alex

Alex, what sign are you seeing with otter? With the exception of toilets and crossovers, otter do not leave much sign.

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Fresh water clam shells is one sign but muskrats also eat those as well.


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Originally Posted By: proratman
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Seems like it should be a good year for otter. Sign is plentiful.

Alex

Alex, what sign are you seeing with otter? With the exception of toilets and crossovers, otter do not leave much sign.

Toilets mostly, as well as seeing otters themselves

Alex


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Got a nice marten this morning in a wooden box with the 4x4 opening.

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Originally Posted By: beaver trapper
Got a nice marten this morning in a wooden box with the 4x4 opening.

Alex


Good job. We want photos.

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Some from last year:







Fisher in small box 155 & marten in large box 160.

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Sorry I don't have a picture of the box I caught him in. Nice catch with the coni pans. It is something new I am trying. The trap is a victor 120. The box is a standard 4x4 opening wooden box.

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thanks for sharing

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Nice catches


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Good thread,hope you guys can make it work.


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Less than I hoped for when I headed out this morning, but I'll take it. Clear skies and not a breath of wind.....it was a beautiful day on the line.

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Nice catches and nice suitcase catches on the marten and fisher.


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I see you have one ermine that is still slightly brown. We're the other two solid white Jeremiah?

Thanks, Alex


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Bears are still being a pain.....hopefully hibernating soon!

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Lol that looks like a truck load.


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yeah, the others were solid white. nice marten, Alex!

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Caught a bear in a 160 once.Trap was mangled.


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I bet that was interesting! The first week they were just tipping the boxes over. This week fewer bears, but they're hungrier.....working harder to get to the bait!

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Are you finding one size of box to be more productive than another?

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Too early to tell I think. Half of my boxes are 120, half 160 size. Can't tell any difference yet. A little more snow will help see if I'm getting any refusals. Fur doesn't seem to be moving much right now.

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Hey JWood, if you are driving by my place you have seen that my boxes are still on the porch. When are the bears going in? Where did you find snow? I might start in a week or so.

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Originally Posted By: jwood



Too early to tell I think. Half of my boxes are 120, half 160 size. Can't tell any difference yet. A little more snow will help see if I'm getting any refusals. Fur doesn't seem to be moving much right now.

The majority of mine are 120 size, with the exception of one 160 size. I have about a 50/50 mix of wood and wire boxes, and am anxious to see which proves to be more effective.

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Haha yes....been eyeing those boxes and wondering when you'll put them out and show me where the marten are!!! There's still an inch or so of snow in the higher elevations - starting about 10-15 miles dirt road from your place. Bears are starting to settle down - no problems on half of my line today and only one fresh track in the snow. Hopefully by next week they'll all be sleeping.

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Originally Posted By: jwood

Do you have a screen on the back end or wood?


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just wood with drilled holes. screen might be better, i'm not sure.

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Oh look a trap, gotta go!


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Never got him.







Can't find the photo of the marten at the box. I also, had two DH Sets there. Did catch a squirrel and someone ate it.

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Hopefully this little bit of snow we are getting will get the fur moving and show some tracks

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Hey JWood, if you are driving by my place you have seen that my boxes are still on the porch. When are the bears going in? Where did you find snow? I might start in a week or so.

Butch,
Have you been trapping this year?

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I trapped a few coyotes & might put out some marten/fisher boxes after Thanksgiving. Gotta let the bears go in. Did you come north this year?
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Butch, PM sent

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Had bait chewed but trap unfired in a wire box today. The way my traps set in the boxes I don't think the animal had to fully commit to step on my coni pan. The trap was too close.

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Originally Posted By: beaver trapper
Had bait chewed but trap unfired in a wire box today. The way my traps set in the boxes I don't think the animal had to fully commit to step on my coni pan. The trap was too close.

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Mouse? or weasel?

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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
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Had bait chewed but trap unfired in a wire box today. The way my traps set in the boxes I don't think the animal had to fully commit to step on my coni pan. The trap was too close.

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Mouse? or weasel?

The bait was tore up and pulled from the wire. I am thinking either weasel or marten. The coni pan was only an inch or two from the bait so either could have avoided setting off the trap. I reset with the pan in the other direction.

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I put out a few fisher boxes today with 220's
Bears not a problem down this part of the State.

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Checked the sets the other day caught 1 big male fisher in a big set and had 2 bear hits. fisher measured 33 inches from nose to skirt.

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Originally Posted By: cd85
Checked the sets the other day caught 1 big male fisher in a big set and had 2 bear hits. fisher measured 33 inches from nose to skirt.


That's a nice one.

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A snapped trap today where I caught the marten Wednesday and a few sets with the bait stolen.

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Finally got over my cough and tagged a doe on Monday and this guy on Saturday. Not a big guy but a nice looking 4 pointer.

I'm glad something went well as trapping is not for me so far lol!

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Congrats on your buck


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Neck swelled up nicely. Good looking deer and congrats.

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thanks for sharing nice pic.

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Thanks guys.

Had some big coyote tracks walk within 15 yards of one of my sets last night. Freshened up the sent so I hope he checks it out tonight.

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Sorry for upside down picture these are tough to post on mobile. Slow going but still plugging away.

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Looking like you have a pretty productive line Jeremiah!

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Hey JWood, How many box nights does it take to catch a marten? I might put out a few boxes this week. if you don't want to post the answer please send it in a PM. I talked to "The Mountain Man" yesterday and he said this is the worst year for marten that he has seen.


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I can't argue with that. That Marten and 3 weasels came from about 60 sets in 5 days.

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If you know where the Martin are I'm sure you can do better than that but I'm setting blind hoping for some fresh snow soon.

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Originally Posted By: jwood
If you know where the Martin are I'm sure you can do better than that but I'm setting blind hoping for some fresh snow soon.

I set on sign in a few spots and it paid off. I've been having action at all my sets I set on tracks from the snow 2 weeks ago. But I am also running a much shorter line than you. Did you prebait at all?

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I intended to but never got to it. Might be a good thing I didn't, what with all the bear activity. Finally no bear hits today.

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Nice catches.Ermine are looking good.


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Originally Posted By: beaver trapper
Originally Posted By: jwood
If you know where the Martin are I'm sure you can do better than that but I'm setting blind hoping for some fresh snow soon.

I set on sign in a few spots and it paid off. I've been having action at all my sets I set on tracks from the snow 2 weeks ago. But I am also running a much shorter line than you. Did you prebait at all?

Alex


Pre-baiting does not work:


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Originally Posted By: jwood
I intended to but never got to it. Might be a good thing I didn't, what with all the bear activity. Finally no bear hits today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoN9-ug_oqQ

I always figured they denned-up by the middle of November.

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Nice video! Denning time depends on food availability. In years with more food available, they tend to stay out later.

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Dec 1 is coming. Finally gonna put some water traps out. Keep telling myself if I'm gonna trap then I may as well wait until the fur is at least starting to prime a little

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Nice bear


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Thanks for the compliments on the bear, guys. I wish it had showed up in September.

Trap question for you guys in the units restricting trap size to 5 3/8th inches. How is the figure arrived at? I just bought some MB 550's based on their description of trap size but I'm thinking they measure inside center of jaw to inside center of jaw when the trap is set.

It looks bigger than that where the jaws attach to the frame when the trap is set. I don't have a tape handy. How is Mr. Warden going to view this?

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Here in Maine the trap is measured when set from inside center of jaw to inside center of other jaw going straight across trap pan.You don't measure from where jaws are attached to the frame.That measurement don't matter.


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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Here in Maine the trap is measured when set from inside center of jaw to inside center of other jaw going straight across trap pan.You don't measure from where jaws are attached to the frame.That measurement don't matter.


Thanks for helping a new guy out, Bruce. I appreciate the help.

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Originally Posted By: Posco
Thanks for the compliments on the bear, guys. I wish it had showed up in September.

Trap question for you guys in the units restricting trap size to 5 3/8th inches. How is the figure arrived at? I just bought some MB 550's based on their description of trap size but I'm thinking they measure inside center of jaw to inside center of jaw when the trap is set.

It looks bigger than that where the jaws attach to the frame when the trap is set. I don't have a tape handy. How is Mr. Warden going to view this?


No problem with the 550's in Maine. The 550-RC has an outside jaw spread of 5 1/2” and an inside jaw spread of 4 3/4”. Here is one at work in northern Maine from a few weeks ago. This was a mean old red 'yote & got a second one here two days later.


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Originally Posted By: Posco
Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Here in Maine the trap is measured when set from inside center of jaw to inside center of other jaw going straight across trap pan.You don't measure from where jaws are attached to the frame.That measurement don't matter.


Thanks for helping a new guy out, Bruce. I appreciate the help.

Any time.


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That sure looks like an old coyote.Wonder how many deer that one had killed in its life.


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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor


No problem with the 550's in Maine. The 550-RC has an outside jaw spread of 5 1/2” and an inside jaw spread of 4 3/4”. Here is one at work in northern Maine from a few weeks ago. This was a mean old red 'yote & got a second one here two days later.



That's a nice looking animal. I have a friend who just moved here to live off the grid. She told me she heard some coyotes outside her cabin the other night so she grabbed her light and handgun and went outside to see what was going on. She claims there were at least twenty sets of eyes she shined. I find it hard to believe but she is sticking to her story.

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No problem with the 550's in Maine. The 550-RC has an outside jaw spread of 5 1/2” and an inside jaw spread of 4 3/4”. Here is one at work in northern Maine from a few weeks ago. This was a mean old red 'yote & got a second one here two days later.



That's a nice looking animal. I have a friend who just moved here to live off the grid. She told me she heard some coyotes outside her cabin the other night so she grabbed her light and handgun and went outside to see what was going on. She claims there were at least twenty sets of eyes she shined. I find it hard to believe but she is sticking to her story.


How far from Ashland? Send me the location and I'll go thin them out, LOL.

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It's nice to see someone thinning out the coyote population. I wish I had time to do the same.

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My wife convinced me to take a break from cleaning up the aftermath of the fur shed fire and go check traps in the woods (she's great). Nothing like a trapline to get your mind off of other issues for a few hours. The antler was a nice bonus - earliest one I've ever found!

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Posting from the line. Nice fisher in a wooden 120 box so far. Pictures to follow.

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This guy jammed himself into a 4"x4" marten box with a victor 120. I had just checked the trap last night, and had him in it when I checked this morning.

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Whats everyone using for posting pictures?

My photobucket says its full even though Ive deleted a lot of pics.

Thanks

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Whats everyone using for posting pictures?

My photobucket says its full even though Ive deleted a lot of pics.

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I upload them directly from my computer

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Well I pulled the line today. Work and school obligations didn't leave me any time to trap and enjoy it. It was a good little run, catching a marten, fisher, weasel, and muskrat. Doesn't sound like much to many, but it was nice to get back trapping.

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Originally Posted By: beaver trapper
Well I pulled the line today. Work and school obligations didn't leave me any time to trap and enjoy it. It was a good little run, catching a marten, fisher, weasel, and muskrat. Doesn't sound like much to many, but it was nice to get back trapping

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Sounds good to me!

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Alex - I'd say that's far better than going a season without trapping! It's good to get it out of your system even if just a short line. Good job.

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I've been using the 'upload inline images' button and pulling them off the phone. Works well if your image file isn't too big.

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Originally Posted By: Jonnytrapper
Cleaned the skull yesterday



Looks good. I'm going to do a euro next time I get a decent deer.

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Guess it's time to show my deer. 135 lb doe with a muzzleloader opening day. Used an old CVA hammer gun .50 cal. 1 shot.
Setting the first traps Saturday in the water

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Nice pics everyone . Ive had some so bad luck this year on the marten and fisher line, one fisher thats it. Must be a bad year for marten or is it just me?

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Marten coming slow for some folks I know.

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Nice pics everyone . Ive had some so bad luck this year on the marten and fisher line, one fisher thats it. Must be a bad year for marten or is it just me?

Is this the "off" year for marten? I have been told that it is good every other year.

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Pretty sure the exclusion devices don't help with fisher or marten harvest

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Originally Posted By: SleekOtter
Pretty sure the exclusion devices don't help with fisher or marten harvest

They sure don't help.


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Originally Posted By: jwood

My wife convinced me to take a break from cleaning up the aftermath of the fur shed fire and go check traps in the woods (she's great). Nothing like a trapline to get your mind off of other issues for a few hours. The antler was a nice bonus - earliest one I've ever found!

Very nice.


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Just getting back in cell service from The Martin line. I have some interesting observations on the exclusion devices. Will share more when I have the chance to sit down in front of a computer.

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Just getting back in cell service from The Martin line. I have some interesting observations on the exclusion devices. Will share more when I have the chance to sit down in front of a computer.

Looking forward to hearing it.


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Originally Posted By: jwood
Just getting back in cell service from The Martin line. I have some interesting observations on the exclusion devices. Will share more when I have the chance to sit down in front of a computer.

Looking forward to hearing it.


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For a month now, I've had 60 marten/fisher sets in the woods. Approx. 30 of them are the 120 style devices with a 4x4" opening, and a straight shot from entrance hole to the bait. The other 30 are 160/220 devices, with the larger hole, but a 90 degree turn at the entrance of the box.

It's been a slow year, and so far I've caught 7 marten and 3 fishers. Every single one of those 10 animals have been caught in the 120 style boxes. All I've caught in the 160/220 boxes are small weasels.

I had a refusal in a 160 box the other day, so experimented by putting a 120 box six feet away. Just visited the set today, and there was a marten in the 120 box. See video below:
https://youtu.be/a8BBXPCIZ-E

I'm not sure what's going on, but it's possible that not being able to see inside the box, see the bait, or see the back of the box, or difficulty navigating the 90 degree turn, is preventing them from entering the larger boxes. Whatever it is specifically, it's been a huge learning experience for me.

I'd be interested in hearing how many folks have caught marten/fisher in the larger boxes this year. I have heard of some being caught last year, but last year was a hunger year for marten/fisher up here. This year food is everywhere and they can be picky. Not 100% sure, but I've learned enough to go all in on 120 boxes next year.

Hope this helps.

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Hey JWood, now you tell me. I put out most of my small boxes and thought I needed some big ones. So I put out about a dozen "big side entrance" boxes in the past three days. BTW, I might have driven past some of your sets today. I went out Rocky to Quebec and turned left. 193 miles later I had 18 more boxes out. Saw a pack of six bulls together out there if you're looking for more horns. I did get 3 fisher and 4 or 5 marten in the side entrance boxes last year. Maybe the deep snow helped.



Note the hole something chewed in the side of the box. I watched a squirrel trying to get into a side entrance box yesterday. All the sq. did was try to squeeze in the spring slot climb over the box and try the other side. It did that 2 or 3 times before I chased it away.

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Now that sounds like a long line! PM sent.

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I'm on board with getting rid of tbe boxes. Always was but still have yet to hear anything positive about them.

First beaver check was today for me, got skunked. Never been skunked on the first beaver check in my short 13 years of doing it. Really drags you down.

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jwood exactly what I have been hearing all along.You will catch smaller fisher and marten in the smaller boxes with the straight shot.No fisher in the larger boxes with the opening in the front and a very few in the larger boxes with the opening in the side.


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Jeremiah, I guess I can add to your theory. One my line this year I set one side entrance 160 box and the rest were 120 boxes. I caught 1 marten and 1 fisher in the 120 boxes. I also caught 1 marten in a 120 box in the past. I set my 160 box where I had seen a fisher run across the road in front of me and had it set for almost a month. I regularly had my 160 box disturbed (boughs tore off around back, tracks around it) but nothing ever stepped foot in it.

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We need boxes with a larger opening on the end.

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I'm a long ways from being a fisher expert but have you folks ever noticed how tight fisher hold to waterways. I see more fisher tracks on snow running streams. It's almost a given I'm going to see their tracks.

What a great grouse season we had. Still going through the end of this month. Took the gun out for a bit this afternoon, flushed eight or ten birds and connected on one, missed a couple.


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Concerning the 4 inch opening on 120 sized boxes: I saw somewhere that someone was turning the 4 inch opening on it's side creating a diamond shaped opening. Anybody know if this is an acceptable way to build them? Still a 4 inch opening depending where the measurement is taken from. Also would allow a Fisher a little more space to get themselves into the box.

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I'd imagine it would work for the laws. Should work. Lord knows with the wardens here though, haven't found many to be trusted that doesn't like to pinch people for the dumbest things just because "it's the law" and they interpret it differently.

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Originally Posted By: Winterprime
Concerning the 4 inch opening on 120 sized boxes: I saw somewhere that someone was turning the 4 inch opening on it's side creating a diamond shaped opening. Anybody know if this is an acceptable way to build them? Still a 4 inch opening depending where the measurement is taken from. Also would allow a Fisher a little more space to get themselves into the box.

Wardens never had an issue with me doing it. It's still a 4x4 opening, there is no law governing how it is oriented.

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Originally Posted By: Winterprime
Concerning the 4 inch opening on 120 sized boxes: I saw somewhere that someone was turning the 4 inch opening on it's side creating a diamond shaped opening. Anybody know if this is an acceptable way to build them? Still a 4 inch opening depending where the measurement is taken from. Also would allow a Fisher a little more space to get themselves into the box.


Lt. Tom Ward told me that was acceptable.

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A recent article in the "Trappers Post" written by Bob Noonan suggested that the diamond arrangement of the entrance hole was a better option.

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Thanks for the replies everyone. When I finally build some I will go with the diamond shape.

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Nice job on the fisher Butch! I check tomorrow.

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Originally Posted By: jwood
Nice job on the fisher Butch! I check tomorrow.


Good Luck!

I check Sat & Sun, no log trucks on the weekend.

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Jwood, good video.

The year the state made the boxes a law the fisher catch was around 165 +/- and the marten catch about the same.
Now consider this, my fur buyer has records of many years buying 1500 fisher.
The boxes are not efficient and are the pipe dream of a non long liner.

I along with several friends had always dreamed that when we retired from regular work that we could run long lines much like we did in the 70s and 80s.
Well you can, but not efficiently for fisher or marten. The state has ended that.

I have caught a lot of very large fisher in 120s in boxes. The 120 or 5x5 in boxes work very well and are perhaps my favorite fisher sets, but are now illegal.
I would suggest that the 120 or 5x5 set in a box, keeping the trap back a decent distance from he opening would be an acceptable set up for avoiding the non threatened Lynx.
An adult Lynx only has a arm so long. It seems plausible that it would be quite difficult for a Lynx to get into a trap that was recessed say 20" into a box, even with a opening slightly larger than a trap. This type of a box has probably not been tested because it would be too efficient and no one from the MTA has suggested it.



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sound good ,sounds like you need to make one and bring it to local an state meeting an see what can be done to test it

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Mac; Not only was that suggested but it was put forth as a motion which carried. Then was ignored by the mta. Just to keep the record straight. This and many other suggestions were made by trappers that actually trap, to no avail. Don't ever make the mistake of expecting any degree of logic pertaining to the Lynx debacle.

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Mac; Not only was that suggested but it was put forth as a motion which carried. Then was ignored by the mta. Just to keep the record straight. This and many other suggestions were made by trappers that actually trap, to no avail. Don't ever make the mistake of expecting any degree of logic pertaining to the Lynx debacle.


I guess they cave in order to appease the anti's.

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It's pretty bad when we're only allowed 10 fisher a year and can't even come close to that harvest individually with dozens of traps out. I have trapped years with only 20 or so traps out because I was just starting and still in school but was able to fill all my tags. Too bad too because fisher are one of the only profitable furbearers left in this state.

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Checked a few "fisher exclusion devices" today. Had three that made a million tracks but would not go in the 4" hole also had 1 walk all around & on a side entrance box, but would not go in.

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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
Checked a few "fisher exclusion devices" today. Had three that made a million tracks but would not go in the 4" hole also had 1 walk all around & on a side entrance box, but would not go in.


Are you trapping the western mountains or are you up north?

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That's got to be a good feeling to see that tail hanging out, kind of like a canine jumping in a snare but in a different way. Nice trapping

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I have a cabin @ Portage Lake and trap west to I see this:



250 mile run today and I even got one:


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Thats a big area your trapping.


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Lol! I live two miles from the New Brunswick border. Take I 95 to its terminus and that's where I'm at.

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That's got to be a good feeling to see that tail hanging out, kind of like a canine jumping in a snare but in a different way. Nice trapping



Thanks, the big ones don't fit so good.


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Nice red.Could have been a flyer.

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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
Thanks, the big ones don't fit so good.



Got to admire that kind of determination!

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Thats a big area your trapping.


I only have 60-70 fisher exclusion boxes out. I skip over 20-30 miles where someone else is trapping. Had four fisher work the area around the box hard last night, but they would not go in.

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This lynxie walked the road for almost three miles.


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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
This lynxie walked the road for almost three miles.


We should be able to trap lynx.


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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
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This lynxie walked the road for almost three miles.


We should be able to trap lynx.


I saw an estimate where we had around a thousand in the state. What are we allowed, three incidental catches and they can shut us down?

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Canada and Alaska are full of lynx.There is no logical reason why we can't also trap lynx.They are not endangered.


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Originally Posted By: Boco
Nice red.Could have been a flyer.


I've not gotten any flyers on the ground in boxes. Got plenty when we could set on poles here in Maine. Even got a few doubles:


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I'm picking up a few more fisher this week with the snow. I'm guessing theyre getting hungry but unfortunately the season closes here where I am the 15th.

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" Don't ever make the mistake of expecting any degree of logic pertaining to the Lynx debacle."

Absolutely correct. It is maddening.
Mac



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Originally Posted By: Hornz
I'm picking up a few more fisher this week with the snow. I'm guessing theyre getting hungry but unfortunately the season closes here where I am the 15th.


I too live in a zone that the season ends the 15th.
Fisher have always been watched like the proverbial Hawk, and often over regulated. I would consider most if not all of the restrictions put on fisher over the years to be capricious and ludicrous.
Fisher numbers have always fluctuated as a course that nature follows. Having spent thousands of hours in the woods on snow I have seen first hand how populations change.

Fisher are not in danger during these times. Not at all.
If the market is high, it is a bit of a different story. In a high market which I may never live to see again,

It makes absolutely no sense in having a month long season in areas in which other animals can be harvested. I do not have a degree as a biologist but have spent considerable time trapping and studying wildlife in the last fifty years, so therefore have learned a bit.
I have caught fisher in coyote and bobcat sets through the years that had to be released. Not a good deal if you have any inclination of common sense. Common sense truly has become a super power.

It was my understanding that the state was concerned with a box open ended the size of a 120 or 5x5 due to the fact that during testing it appeared that a lynx kitten might fit in one. Well ye old science experts, there is not much of a chance of a Lynx kitten or kitten size roaming around the woods in November or December, Those varmints will be adult size by that time of the year.
But again, I suggest that common sense may be a super power.

I, like many of my friends had hoped to be able to run a true long line for fisher and marten when I retired.
The investment in purchasing a car hauler to transport in efficient boxes into the North woods does not make it feasible.
The feds and the state have ended that dream of many of us.
It is sad that wildlife management does not exist. Instead it is a matter of appeasing the antis and the dam feds. Neither of which have a clue about true wildlife management, and neither care a dam thing about the animals.

As for the anti groups, it is more about furnishing salaries for a bunch of useless and certainly misdirected humans that would chose any other cause if there were bigger salaries in that.

As for the feds expertise; look at any of the government. Case closed.

Mac



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And what kills more lynx then anything else.Yep big male fisher.


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Two boxes paid off today. This is a first.


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Dana would be proud!

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Dana would be proud!


No kidding



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Originally Posted By: Mac
Mac


Really enjoyed reading that, Mac. Makes sense.

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Would Inland Fisheries and Wildlife be open to testing a third option on the larger exclusion devises? That would be a larger opening in front and the trap set back farther from the enlarged opening.

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What we need is a 160 size box with a 5 or 6 inch hole in the front. Last year I got fisher & marten in side entrances boxes (deep snow conditions). This year nothing would go in my side entrance boxes. I did have a lynx do a walk bye this year. It just went within 2 feet of the box and never broke stride. Last year a lynx went to the front of the box and sat there before moving on. Neither lynx touched the box. This fox (could have been a small coyote) was really interested in the box.


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What we need is a 160 size box with a 5 or 6 inch hole in the front.

That would work much better.Could recess it with no baffle so a lynx could not reach it.


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I too pulled in anticipation of the storm. Gear shifter snapped on the truck just after dark, had to limp 40+ miles back to town, grabbed my farm truck and back out to the woods in the dark and zero degrees. Pulled em all, got done at 3 AM the next day. 3:24 AM met my first vehicle - a logger headed in on his morning commute. Caught up on sleep, worked and moved snow, and finally got back to checking this thread. I did finally catch a fisher in one of the side entrance devices. Also had two obvious refusals in fresh snow within 24 hrs. Will try and post a couple pics and video link soon.

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Originally Posted By: jwood
I too pulled in anticipation of the storm. Gear shifter snapped on the truck just after dark, had to limp 40+ miles back to town, grabbed my farm truck and back out to the woods in the dark and zero degrees. Pulled em all, got done at 3 AM the next day. 3:24 AM met my first vehicle - a logger headed in on his morning commute. Caught up on sleep, worked and moved snow, and finally got back to checking this thread. I did finally catch a fisher in one of the side entrance devices. Also had two obvious refusals in fresh snow within 24 hrs. Will try and post a couple pics and video link soon.



I hate it when that happens. My truck went down out by Blue Pond in Oct. A Sat Phone & 3 A's got me home by 8 PM or so on a Saturday night & the guy from Twins Garage in Ft Kent even fixed my truck & I was good to roll the next morning.

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Everyone pulled for the season? I did a few weeks back to go back to work. Logging pays better than trapping even on the bad days laugh


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Looks like at least you can get the frozen fisher out of the wooden boxes.


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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Looks like at least you can get the frozen fisher out of the wooden boxes.


Male fishers in a little box are a problem. This guy needed to thaw before removal.


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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
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Looks like at least you can get the frozen fisher out of the wooden boxes.


Male fishers in a little box are a problem. This guy needed to thaw before removal.




Lol crazy


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