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#5965027 - 08/01/17 08:35 PM Motor oil question
coonman220 Offline
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Registered: 03/23/08
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Are some motor oils darker in color after changing an look dark on dipstick? Every time I get oil change at this place, I think they use citgo which synethic blend, but not full synethic, it looks on dipstick, right afterward, dark an close to black color, almost like old oil look? Is that normal for some oils?

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#5965040 - 08/01/17 08:47 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
JKS Offline
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Loc: Penna.
Depending on the mileage on your vehicle this could be just fine. Request an "engine cleaning" service before your next oil change and your oil will look clean. Always follow manufacturer recommendations on oils and oil change intervals.

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#5965056 - 08/01/17 09:04 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
Boco Offline
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Probably charged you for an oil change and never changed it.
Try a different establishment,and see if you get clean oil.

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#5965062 - 08/01/17 09:08 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
coonman220 Offline
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I used change it at 3000 when brand new an then went to 4 an 5 thousand an now back to 3000 with 150,000 plus miles as was told would be a lot better with more miles, looking at oil again on dipstick when cold engine an looks like new oil, it had to be, but it is dark color, I like clear color look to oil an maybe should change myself an switch to Mobil or something else, citgo if that what is, cheap, I change oil in old 87 twice s year with super tech oil from Walmart an very clear color, I don't like dark looking oil that almost had a used look to it, as for oil additives or cleaners, the only way I do that is if motor about shot, I was told oil breaks down more at above 2000 an after that many miles it start burning oil


Edited by coonman220 (08/01/17 09:09 PM)

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#5965067 - 08/01/17 09:10 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
AntiGov Offline
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Yep , save yourself some money and change it yourself. Maybe some high mileage oil
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#5965071 - 08/01/17 09:14 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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Not sure why you keep going back there? You should be able to see if it's old oil it should be black!
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#5965095 - 08/01/17 09:35 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: JKS]
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Originally Posted By: JKS
Depending on the mileage on your vehicle this could be just fine. Request an "engine cleaning" service before your next oil change and your oil will look clean. Always follow manufacturer recommendations on oils and oil change intervals.
I would advise against this if you are talking about using some kind of "engine flush" Not a good thing to do because you can dislodge all of the gunk and possibly blow the motor up. All of that dislodged sludge can clog up the motor and not let the oil flow correctly.
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#5965100 - 08/01/17 09:40 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
Law Dog Offline
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Id rather do frequent oil changes to clean a motor over time. I have seen engines with a gunk valve cover shape when the covers were taken off not sure how the thing kept lubed when it was running!
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#5965132 - 08/01/17 10:03 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
Furvor Offline
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Registered: 07/06/08
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Loc: Idaho Falls, Idaho
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I think they use citgo which synethic blend


Some synthetic blends have less than 10% synthetic.


Edited by Furvor (08/01/17 10:05 PM)

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#5965167 - 08/01/17 10:50 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
LeverAlone Offline
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Registered: 10/24/13
Posts: 1028
Loc: NE ON
Changing oil is as easy as removing a plug, and replacing a filter, then dumping oil back in. If you are skeptical of these places, just do it yourself, it's very easy.

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#5965177 - 08/01/17 11:04 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
ghhunter Offline
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Registered: 03/03/11
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Loc: Fredericktown,ohio
I always use Mobile 1 or Amsoil when I can get it.Best two oils you can get.

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#5965208 - 08/02/17 01:50 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: LeverAlone]
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Originally Posted By: LeverAlone
Changing oil is as easy as removing a plug, and replacing a filter, then dumping oil back in. If you are skeptical of these places, just do it yourself, it's very easy.
remember to put plug back in. I've heard it happening before!
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#5965211 - 08/02/17 02:47 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
Budfish Offline
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Loc: Des Allemands, Louisiana
They may not be letting it drain all the way so too much old oil is still there so the new oil adds to the viscosity making it look thicker, but the old oil adds to the color. As stated before, I would find a different place to get it changed next time and see how that looks.

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#5965247 - 08/02/17 06:23 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
ToTheWoods Offline
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Registered: 12/29/13
Posts: 394
Loc: St. Croix County, Wisconsin
The truth teller will be if your vehicle is using oil. When synthetic breaks down it starts to burn off faster than conventional motor oils. Go with Mobil 1 or Amsoil. That Citgo oil is cheap.

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#5965262 - 08/02/17 06:53 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
Jim T. Offline
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Loc: N E Ohio
Do it yourself with Mobile 1 Full Synthetic & spray the grease boots with silicon spray they will not go bad. Jim

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#5965295 - 08/02/17 07:55 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
N.Roberts Offline
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Registered: 12/29/06
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Loc: Rhinelander, WI
If you have only had conventional oil in it, is there any risk to switching to synthetic at the next change?

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#5965300 - 08/02/17 07:59 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: N.Roberts]
bhugo Offline
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Originally Posted By: N.Roberts
If you have only had conventional oil in it, is there any risk to switching to synthetic at the next change?


Synthetic is less viscous. If your vehicle leaks or burns conventional oil the synthetic may exacerbate the problem.
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#5965324 - 08/02/17 08:42 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
kingrat Offline
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Loc: saskatchewan canada
No risk thats a myth.royal purple, amsoil and mobile one are the only true synthetics. It actually went to court other companys saying they were. Bobs the oil guy had a link to the article google it. Its pretty neat

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#5965351 - 08/02/17 09:52 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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I'm wondering if they are charging for a filter and your not getting it. The oil left in the filter is what is coloring the oil. Might mark the old one and see if it gets changed.
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#5965353 - 08/02/17 09:57 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: kingrat]
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Originally Posted By: kingrat
No risk thats a myth.royal purple, amsoil and mobile one are the only true synthetics. It actually went to court other companys saying they were. Bobs the oil guy had a link to the article google it. Its pretty neat


I had a 2009 chevy pickup with bad rings that begs to differ. Amsoil went through it like corn through a goose.
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#5965355 - 08/02/17 09:58 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
jk Offline
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Loc: Williamsport, Pa.
Forget to put the plug back in, beside me who would do that? And I did it twice in a row.......jk
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#5965568 - 08/02/17 04:15 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
BigBob Offline
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Used oil will be opaque, can't see thru it,
New oil will be translucent, can read the dipstick thru it.
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#5965613 - 08/02/17 05:19 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
tjm Offline
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looking at oil again on dipstick when cold engine an looks like new oil, it had to be,
That pretty much covers it, eh?

When I put synthetic oil in a truck that burned oil it glazed the plugs in about a hundred miles and I got to do a roadside tuneup to get home. I'll never believe that a true synthetic burns at all, never mind faster. It sure might leak faster.

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#5965664 - 08/02/17 06:33 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: tjm]
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Originally Posted By: tjm
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looking at oil again on dipstick when cold engine an looks like new oil, it had to be,
That pretty much covers it, eh?

When I put synthetic oil in a truck that burned oil it glazed the plugs in about a hundred miles and I got to do a roadside tuneup to get home. I'll never believe that a true synthetic burns at all, never mind faster. It sure might leak faster.


OK. Here's your sign. If the thing is worn out, DON'T PUT EXPENSIVE OIL IN IT! You should have put synthetic in a long time ago, before it was shot and you would still have a sound engine. Not a problem with the oil. Too little, too late.

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#5965782 - 08/02/17 09:05 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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Oils have detergents whose job is to dissolve and suspend dirty grunge. Your oil seems to be working.

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#5966132 - 08/03/17 08:42 AM Re: Motor oil question [Re: charles]
ratbrain Offline
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Originally Posted By: charles
Oils have detergents whose job is to dissolve and suspend dirty grunge. Your oil seems to be working.


What charles said. This is part of engine oil's job besides lubrication.

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#5966808 - 08/03/17 08:58 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
coonman220 Offline
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On the dipstick right after oil change, the center of dipstick looks dark almost like used oil look but toward outside of cable dipstick it looks like new oil, I think all oil read on dipstick should look clear an don't get why, it was changed after a 30 mile drive within 20 minutes, never neglected, it burns maybe a quart in 3000 miles an not much till more miles an then burns most of it after 1500 miles on oil change

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#5967298 - 08/04/17 01:30 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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I had a brother in law that never changed his oil, just added to it whenever it was down. He had over 100,000 miles on it when he sold it to my brother. First thing my brother did was drain the oil. He pulled the drain plug and nothing came out. He had to poke a hole with a pair of channel locks in the sludge that had accumulated in pan over the years to get the oil to drain.
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#5967336 - 08/04/17 02:09 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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Originally Posted By: coonman220
On the dipstick right after oil change, the center of dipstick looks dark almost like used oil look but toward outside of cable dipstick it looks like new oil, I think all oil read on dipstick should look clear an don't get why, it was changed after a 30 mile drive within 20 minutes, never neglected, it burns maybe a quart in 3000 miles an not much till more miles an then burns most of it after 1500 miles on oil change


Those devils didn't take the time to clean out your dipstick tube.

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#5997957 - 09/13/17 12:24 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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#5997971 - 09/13/17 12:41 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
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Old School here....at 61 ...I still crawl under my truck,GTO, ...and change it myself.....you should follow suit .
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#5998197 - 09/13/17 07:11 PM Re: Motor oil question [Re: coonman220]
nt2 Offline
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Ground hog day on this thread too!
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