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#5979278 - 08/18/17 07:35 PM Barn rat trapping.
run Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 1471
Loc: Greene County,Virginia
I have a fairly serious rat population around some poultry houses. I could use some tips. Where do you buy plastic pan victors? I see the metal trigger victors all over. But not as many plastic pans. Thanks for your help.

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#5979312 - 08/18/17 08:17 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
Hardware stores. You can order them with free shipping from the big box stores as well. Trapping supply stores carry them but after shipping, it's no different than paying the extra money for them on the shelves at a hardware store.
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#5979453 - 08/19/17 12:05 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
Willy Firewood Offline
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Registered: 07/31/17
Posts: 190
Loc: Ohio
Do you anchor the rat traps? How? I anchor them with electric fence wire.

Best wishes.

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#5979480 - 08/19/17 02:11 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
If all you have at the moment are traditional victors. With a couple modifications they are just as deadly. If you're debating on what to anchor them with. I would use what you have available, cable, chain etc. I like using tent stakes for outdoor trapping and if you can't drive one into the ground or screw into an object. Piece of 4in x 4in x 1/4 inch piece of steel works great as well. Get all my scrap steel from a fabricating company. It's all scraps and FREE!

Just need something strong enough that a predator can't run off with. If the problem is (bad) most likely the only thing going to be moving the traps are other rats, and if they can't move the trap they'll feast on the rats right there in the trap.



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#5982283 - 08/22/17 09:00 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
Willy Firewood Offline
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Registered: 07/31/17
Posts: 190
Loc: Ohio
I like the idea of using a piece of steel as an anchor where you cannot fasten.

To anchor in wood floors or wood framework, i use star drive deck screws and electric fence wire - they don't strip and can be reused many times.

Large spikes used for landscaping are inexpensive and reusable - great for anchoring rat traps in a dirt barn floor or outside. They are available around here in 8" and 10". I drive them in about half or 3/4 and fasten the trap with a twist of electric fence wire.

I have seen some enormous rats at dairy farms where poison could not be used. Serious anchors can be necessary.

The masses who rely on duct tape must have never tried electric fence wire!


Edited by Willy Firewood (08/22/17 09:07 PM)
Edit Reason: Typo.

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#5982540 - 08/23/17 07:44 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
wildflights Offline
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Registered: 02/17/16
Posts: 100
Loc: Washington
We use light wire and binder clips to anchor rat traps. It doesn't take much to hold them in place. Loose traps can be walked quite a distance and under material.

binder clips- http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/binder-clips/N=5+581683/

Hate to lose a trap. In our warehouse there are a lot of places within a few feet that they can disappear for weeks.


Edited by wildflights (08/23/17 07:52 AM)

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#5982587 - 08/23/17 09:09 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
Bob Jameson Offline


Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 3057
Loc: SW Pa
Small stakes in soil conditions through the traps or drill and wire tie off to objects or stakes as needed. Stakes are much better as they help to stabilize the traps for better catches and less prone to movement manipulation.

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#5982618 - 08/23/17 10:10 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
Whauburger Offline
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Registered: 12/23/15
Posts: 88
Loc: Middletown, NY
I had a few original victor rat traps and preferred the "pan style" so I just cut out a small piece of hardware cloth and hot glued it to the metal tab. This gives a bigger section for them to trigger the trap. I can take some pictures when I am home from work. I just smear some peanut butter on them and check once a day.....The redneck 5 gallon pail trap is a killer setup as well if you want to leave it set up somewhere for a couple days.

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#5982681 - 08/23/17 12:17 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
I use flashing on the traditional victors to widen the pan, to each their own. Whatever you do, try not to complicate rodent control. You could end up spending more time brainstorming on how to come up with, or buy the "BEST" trap out there, when you in fact already have one of the best traps out already.
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#5982739 - 08/23/17 01:51 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
Whauburger Offline
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Registered: 12/23/15
Posts: 88
Loc: Middletown, NY
Mine is basically the exact same as TDHP's only I had some hardware cloth next to me when I did it. Works great.

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#5982884 - 08/23/17 06:35 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
jtg Offline
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Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 623
Loc: Texas
The steel leaders that they use for fishing work great. They have a clip on one end and a swivel on the other. Put some of the bait under the pan.

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#5983581 - 08/24/17 04:38 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
I've used chain and cable for years. Little overkill but I tend to use whats readily available.

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#5987912 - 08/30/17 06:48 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
run Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 1471
Loc: Greene County,Virginia
Thanks for the pics. They do help me visualize stuff.

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#5999358 - 09/15/17 02:40 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
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Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 447
Loc: Desert Southwest-CA
Check this out. Never seen one before...and I want one! (Gotta dispatch yourself but if you can get big numbers, worth it IMHO.)

There's one for cats/coons...but check out the one for rats!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTi6CrurbAo

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#5999799 - 09/15/17 03:54 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers.

On top of that, dealing with them after removal would be a waste of time, and ultimately cost the homeowner more money. Pretty hard to beat a bucket full of snap traps and good bait. Setting traps are easy, the bucket is light takes a second to remove a rat from a trap and toss into the bucket and reset the trap and move on versus carrying a bunch of those on site.
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#5999913 - 09/15/17 06:48 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
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Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 447
Loc: Desert Southwest-CA
There are times I'm dealing with folks who don't want to go the setting traps route due to barn cats. For folks like those, it could be a good solution. More time consuming, yes, but a way to get them trapped and out...and if they want to pay for it, who am I to argue? grin

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#5999926 - 09/15/17 07:22 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: DezertTrapper]
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: DezertRattAnnie
There are times I'm dealing with folks who don't want to go the setting traps route due to barn cats. For folks like those, it could be a good solution. More time consuming, yes, but a way to get them trapped and out...and if they want to pay for it, who am I to argue? grin


Originally Posted By: TDHP
I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers.


The price I would charge to use that trap nobody would pay. To use that trap just cause wouldn't make sense. JMO you would lose money using that trap on fast moving accounts. The amount of jobs you could do with snap traps would supersede the jobs using that trap, reason.. trap placement. Having to wait them out versus placing traps where they need to be. Weasel boxes with a hole or a half face plate IMO would be a better route if you're worried about cats, but that's just me.Snap traps for me get the job done so if it isn't broke I don't fix it. The only time I would be looking for an alternative to traps and methods, would be if I were having difficulty doing the job.
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#6000164 - 09/16/17 01:53 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: run]
DezertTrapper Offline
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Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 447
Loc: Desert Southwest-CA
No way I'd lose money, not with all of the snake owners I know... wink

For most jobs, sure, use snap traps...but I have several clients who do not, under any circumstances, want traps in their barns. So what if it sits there...if I'm out doing other jobs while it is doing its thing, great!

Around these parts, we're dealing with desert pack rats...a different kind of critter. Different behavior. Don't need specific trap placement for them...if they're anywhere in the area, they go wherever the food is, and they don't waste any time doing it.

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#6000178 - 09/16/17 04:40 AM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: DezertTrapper]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 956
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: TDHP
I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers.


Originally Posted By: DezertRattAnnie
No way I'd lose money, not with all of the snake owners I know... wink

For most jobs, sure, use snap traps...but I have several clients who do not, under any circumstances, want traps in their barns. So what if it sits there...if I'm out doing other jobs while it is doing its thing, great!


So you do agree. cool Only true way to figure that one out would be to purchase them and place snap traps on the same job and wait for the results. For me it would be used for a "specialty" application if that. Not sure about your regs but we have a 24hr check on traps, you would still need to visit the job location, couldn't just let it sit there and "do its thing". Few of my farm jobs wanted nothing to do with snap traps because they have a boat load of free range chickens/ducks and when the time is right little chicks roaming. JMO, in this business you need to improvise and adapt, I buy when I need to. I just don't see a need for that trap on my jobs. Unless one is all about spending money on things to try new products or can't come up with an improvised plan of attack.."spend da m0n3y". Feel free to buy a few and time lapse both traps and post results, maybe...just maybe I could be convinced, but I won't be the suckah to buy them. Too much handling after the fact, even if you're bringing them to "snake owners". I'd just fluff the price on the job before I waste the time and energy. jmo ;-\
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#6000438 - 09/16/17 02:27 PM Re: Barn rat trapping. [Re: TDHP]
DezertTrapper Offline
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Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 447
Loc: Desert Southwest-CA
Originally Posted By: TDHP
Originally Posted By: TDHP
I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers.


Originally Posted By: DezertRattAnnie
No way I'd lose money, not with all of the snake owners I know... wink

For most jobs, sure, use snap traps...but I have several clients who do not, under any circumstances, want traps in their barns. So what if it sits there...if I'm out doing other jobs while it is doing its thing, great!


So you do agree. cool Only true way to figure that one out would be to purchase them and place snap traps on the same job and wait for the results. For me it would be used for a "specialty" application if that. Not sure about your regs but we have a 24hr check on traps, you would still need to visit the job location, couldn't just let it sit there and "do its thing". Few of my farm jobs wanted nothing to do with snap traps because they have a boat load of free range chickens/ducks and when the time is right little chicks roaming. JMO, in this business you need to improvise and adapt, I buy when I need to. I just don't see a need for that trap on my jobs. Unless one is all about spending money on things to try new products or can't come up with an improvised plan of attack.."spend da m0n3y". Feel free to buy a few and time lapse both traps and post results, maybe...just maybe I could be convinced, but I won't be the suckah to buy them. Too much handling after the fact, even if you're bringing them to "snake owners". I'd just fluff the price on the job before I waste the time and energy. jmo ;-\


I was joking about snakes...but for jobs that I can't use kill traps on...I do use repeaters. Those critters get dispatched, and if healthy, I donate to the local wildlife rehab center for their juvenile raptors. It helps them learn how to recognize sight, smell, and taste of what they're supposed to be hunting for, once released. Sure, that takes me some time, but to me, it's well worth it, considering the numbers of raptors we have out here dropping from the skies due to secondary rodenticide poisoning. I get a lot of calls because of the way I do business in situations like these...a lot of folks out there are opting NOT to use poison, and some feel bad about killing things, but if they know that the (trapped) animal is going on to serve a positive purpose, believe me, it often makes the difference in whether I get a job or don't. We have the same 24 hour law...but we are permitted to have the property owner check, should they desire to---and I am usually called long before the 24 hour check is due. Different strokes for different folks in different locations....

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