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Barn rat trapping.
#5979278
08/18/17 08:35 PM
08/18/17 08:35 PM
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Greene County,Virginia
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I have a fairly serious rat population around some poultry houses. I could use some tips. Where do you buy plastic pan victors? I see the metal trigger victors all over. But not as many plastic pans. Thanks for your help.
wanna be goat farmer.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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#5979453
08/19/17 01:05 AM
08/19/17 01:05 AM
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Ohio
Willy Firewood
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Do you anchor the rat traps? How? I anchor them with electric fence wire.
Best wishes.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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#5982283
08/22/17 10:00 PM
08/22/17 10:00 PM
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Ohio
Willy Firewood
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I like the idea of using a piece of steel as an anchor where you cannot fasten.
To anchor in wood floors or wood framework, i use star drive deck screws and electric fence wire - they don't strip and can be reused many times.
Large spikes used for landscaping are inexpensive and reusable - great for anchoring rat traps in a dirt barn floor or outside. They are available around here in 8" and 10". I drive them in about half or 3/4 and fasten the trap with a twist of electric fence wire.
I have seen some enormous rats at dairy farms where poison could not be used. Serious anchors can be necessary.
The masses who rely on duct tape must have never tried electric fence wire!
Last edited by Willy Firewood; 08/22/17 10:07 PM. Reason: Typo.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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08/23/17 08:44 AM
08/23/17 08:44 AM
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Washington
wildflights
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We use light wire and binder clips to anchor rat traps. It doesn't take much to hold them in place. Loose traps can be walked quite a distance and under material.
binder clips- http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/binder-clips/N=5+581683/
Hate to lose a trap. In our warehouse there are a lot of places within a few feet that they can disappear for weeks.
Last edited by wildflights; 08/23/17 08:52 AM.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
[Re: DezertTrapper]
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09/15/17 08:22 PM
09/15/17 08:22 PM
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There are times I'm dealing with folks who don't want to go the setting traps route due to barn cats. For folks like those, it could be a good solution. More time consuming, yes, but a way to get them trapped and out...and if they want to pay for it, who am I to argue?  I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers.
The price I would charge to use that trap nobody would pay. To use that trap just cause wouldn't make sense. JMO you would lose money using that trap on fast moving accounts. The amount of jobs you could do with snap traps would supersede the jobs using that trap, reason.. trap placement. Having to wait them out versus placing traps where they need to be. Weasel boxes with a hole or a half face plate IMO would be a better route if you're worried about cats, but that's just me.Snap traps for me get the job done so if it isn't broke I don't fix it. The only time I would be looking for an alternative to traps and methods, would be if I were having difficulty doing the job.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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09/16/17 02:53 AM
09/16/17 02:53 AM
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Desert Southwest-CA
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No way I'd lose money, not with all of the snake owners I know...  For most jobs, sure, use snap traps...but I have several clients who do not, under any circumstances, want traps in their barns. So what if it sits there...if I'm out doing other jobs while it is doing its thing, great! Around these parts, we're dealing with desert pack rats...a different kind of critter. Different behavior. Don't need specific trap placement for them...if they're anywhere in the area, they go wherever the food is, and they don't waste any time doing it.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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09/16/17 05:40 AM
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I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers. No way I'd lose money, not with all of the snake owners I know... For most jobs, sure, use snap traps...but I have several clients who do not, under any circumstances, want traps in their barns. So what if it sits there...if I'm out doing other jobs while it is doing its thing, great! So you do agree.  Only true way to figure that one out would be to purchase them and place snap traps on the same job and wait for the results. For me it would be used for a "specialty" application if that. Not sure about your regs but we have a 24hr check on traps, you would still need to visit the job location, couldn't just let it sit there and "do its thing". Few of my farm jobs wanted nothing to do with snap traps because they have a boat load of free range chickens/ducks and when the time is right little chicks roaming. JMO, in this business you need to improvise and adapt, I buy when I need to. I just don't see a need for that trap on my jobs. Unless one is all about spending money on things to try new products or can't come up with an improvised plan of attack.."spend da m0n3y". Feel free to buy a few and time lapse both traps and post results, maybe...just maybe I could be convinced, but I won't be the suckah to buy them. Too much handling after the fact, even if you're bringing them to "snake owners". I'd just fluff the price on the job before I waste the time and energy. jmo ;-\
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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09/16/17 03:27 PM
09/16/17 03:27 PM
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Desert Southwest-CA
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I could see a trap like that being used on a farm/warehouse or similar setting where you could leave it as a stationary trap. More for the homeowner IMO. Personally don't think that trap is practical considering where we have to set traps during jobs where you're still dealing with big numbers. No way I'd lose money, not with all of the snake owners I know... For most jobs, sure, use snap traps...but I have several clients who do not, under any circumstances, want traps in their barns. So what if it sits there...if I'm out doing other jobs while it is doing its thing, great! So you do agree. Only true way to figure that one out would be to purchase them and place snap traps on the same job and wait for the results. For me it would be used for a "specialty" application if that. Not sure about your regs but we have a 24hr check on traps, you would still need to visit the job location, couldn't just let it sit there and "do its thing". Few of my farm jobs wanted nothing to do with snap traps because they have a boat load of free range chickens/ducks and when the time is right little chicks roaming. JMO, in this business you need to improvise and adapt, I buy when I need to. I just don't see a need for that trap on my jobs. Unless one is all about spending money on things to try new products or can't come up with an improvised plan of attack.."spend da m0n3y". Feel free to buy a few and time lapse both traps and post results, maybe...just maybe I could be convinced, but I won't be the suckah to buy them. Too much handling after the fact, even if you're bringing them to "snake owners". I'd just fluff the price on the job before I waste the time and energy. jmo ;-\ I was joking about snakes...but for jobs that I can't use kill traps on...I do use repeaters. Those critters get dispatched, and if healthy, I donate to the local wildlife rehab center for their juvenile raptors. It helps them learn how to recognize sight, smell, and taste of what they're supposed to be hunting for, once released. Sure, that takes me some time, but to me, it's well worth it, considering the numbers of raptors we have out here dropping from the skies due to secondary rodenticide poisoning. I get a lot of calls because of the way I do business in situations like these...a lot of folks out there are opting NOT to use poison, and some feel bad about killing things, but if they know that the (trapped) animal is going on to serve a positive purpose, believe me, it often makes the difference in whether I get a job or don't. We have the same 24 hour law...but we are permitted to have the property owner check, should they desire to---and I am usually called long before the 24 hour check is due. Different strokes for different folks in different locations....
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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09/22/17 03:10 PM
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Any of you EVER try bodygrips like 55s or 110s for rats? How did it work out for you, and did you use standard wires or added pans?
I know snap traps are the standard, I'm just curious Guess not
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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#6006114
09/22/17 04:04 PM
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Southern Michigan
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Standard wire 110s work, set the trigger on the last notch and start it so it moves free a bit like for mink. Set blind
Common sense catches alot of fur..
Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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#6006574
09/23/17 02:31 AM
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Any of you EVER try bodygrips like 55s or 110s for rats? How did it work out for you, and did you use standard wires or added pans?
I know snap traps are the standard, I'm just curious Illegal to use here without a permit and would be best used for muskrats with the regs that are in place. Jmo, those traps aren't practical for most applications when it comes to Adc work for rats. More of a preference thing than effectiveness. The majority of places where rat traps need to be placed in order to be successful in regards to time and catch volume those traps wouldn't cut it. Bigger liability risk when dealing with children and pets at the residence as well. I too at times like to use certain methods and traps to do a job because I like that method or trap. If you run two traps along side by side on the same job you can get a feel for how effective one is over the other. (Pros&Cons) Those traps would be out trapped by standard rat traps and ultimately you risk losing money on the job. For the simple fact of trap placement and running time.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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01/10/18 08:21 PM
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Nessmuck
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What's wrong with a bait station (cubby) with a 2" hole in both ends and run rat poison...Aka rodent rocks ...
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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01/10/18 09:20 PM
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What's wrong with a bait station (cubby) with a 2" hole in both ends and run rat poison...Aka rodent rocks ... Nothing at all if you're licensed to handle it on someones property besides your own, and if the homeowner allows it to be placed on their property. Many folks are 100% against poisons being placed on their property. I don't have a core License to handle it on someones property besides my own, and have no interest in obtaining it at this time. Not sold on that's the best method of removal either, especially after the repairs I've done to homes and apartments for the removal of dead rodents in the warmer months.
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Re: Barn rat trapping.
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01/10/18 10:14 PM
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Have to plug all the rodent entry points ....professional term ..lol
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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good grief
