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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996545
09/11/17 09:06 PM
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Never tried a foot snare but I have to say the idea intrigues me. I wonder how many that point out the negatives about them have ever tried one..

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996563
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Never tried one , never gave it much though, when they start out in price around $25 and go up to $100 .

Guess it might be fun for bears and mountain lions , neither one we can legally trap here .




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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996637
09/11/17 10:22 PM
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They have pushed It In WI figuring some time down the road we will be able to use them to trap bears In WI. Don't hold your breath.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996650
09/11/17 10:31 PM
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Yeah. I hear you on the price tag of the ones out there. I'm actually in the process of prototyping a new design for a foot snare that is simpler than what's out there and should be able to produce for a more reasonable cost. I have a couple built and believe I have the design were I like it now I just have put it to the test this season. If it works well I believe it will actually have some valuable benefits in some situations over a leg hold trap. The deer thing does have me concerned. As stated before a BAD device that will hold leg caught yotes put release deer will b needed in most applications.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996651
09/11/17 10:32 PM
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Seems to me like it is the perfect solution to a non-existent problem.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996653
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Improvements are always out there if one's open minded or we would still b getting around on foot

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996702
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It's another 'tool,' so to speak. That's the way a Wi official explained it to me. If anyone doesn't like the idea, I guess don't use it. I think we are fortunate to have different options at our disposal. I'm going to wait to judge them until I try it, or learn more about them. They are very intriguing.

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: The Beav] #5996703
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
...figuring some time down the road we will be able to use them to trap bears In WI...

I like the sound of that!

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996892
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https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/WCSBFS6.html

And your going to bury all this garbage In the ground to catch coyotes?? Maybe for ADC work In the summer but In harsh trapping conditions I don't think so.

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: AJE] #5996923
09/12/17 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: 2 TRAPS


It would stop deer catchs

Originally Posted By: red webb
Thanks for posting 2traps. I like the old style better and do wish I had some of the stainless one because they are stouter.


i have sold off my reglar steel ones .After trap'n with the Stainless Steel ones.

Originally Posted By: 2 TRAPS
Thin cable has rubber tube to prevent cutting. Larger 1/8 inch wire dosnt and does not cut the paw. Love the foot snare. Work just as good if not better then modern foothold. I would run bunch if you didn't have to use new snare after every catch. I have had possum and coon slip the noose but coyote.



Cost of the snare is nothing when your live market trap'n.
I'v held bobcat by two toes using 1/8" 7x19 stainless steel cable.

Originally Posted By: The Beav
https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/WCSBFS6.html

And your going to bury all this garbage In the ground to catch coyotes?? Maybe for ADC work In the summer but In harsh trapping conditions I don't think so.


Beav, havent you trapped Mississippi live market in the past?
The snare beds some what like a DLS.I havent seen that a problem.
I'v used them i mud. But not snow.

Originally Posted By: AJE
I saw DNR demonstrate the regular Belisle at the 2016 state convention. It seemed to me that if someone was having trouble with toe catches, foot snares might be especially good for those people. All in all, they seemed like a good set, but people here just aren't enthused about them. I brought it up several times this weekend at the state convention, and nobody was selling them and few seemed interested in trying them. I haven't tried them, but am anxious to order 1 or 2 to try. I've been pondering them for a year. My delay is largely due to trying to figure out a BAD that will hold most yotes but release most deer. I had 1 vendor tell me if I order foot snare(s) from them, they'd put on whatever BAD I want.
In my research this past year, the Belisle seems like a better all around setup than the Fremont. Wi requires inline shock springs on them. I don't think that thin rubber coated wire is legal here.


I have the 6" in stock in Steel and Stainless Steel.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: The Beav] #5996935
09/12/17 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/WCSBFS6.html

And your going to bury all this garbage In the ground to catch coyotes?? Maybe for ADC work In the summer but In harsh trapping conditions I don't think so.

I'd like to try it, and see how it works.
I am wondering how they'd be in winter conditions though.

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996937
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I've live trapped In NC, SC and Miss but always used foot holds and never had any Issues with bad feet. Well your always going to have a few bad ones but nothing to worry about.

And since I'm out of the live market I'm set up just fine with foot holds for fur trapping. But I might just try one to see what's the big deal.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: Newt] #5996939
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Dont know about it


How come you said you knew nothing about It???


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: The Beav] #5996958
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
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Dont know about it


How come you said you knew nothing about It???


The SLECTIVE snare not the Steel and Stainless Steel 6". they are different


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5996968
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The foot snare is very easy to use and very easy to bed. They work great. Just like foothold you must freeze proof your trap bed. After you figure out the correct way to set the belisle and how to properly place the snare on the belisle. It's very simple and alot safer. They have safety that I like. Plus if it fires on you it dosnt hurt like conventional footholds do. If I was live marketing coyotes that's what I would use. I will have to get a stainless one to try.

Something I never figured out was what the long single chain link connected to the one spring was for? Anyone know?. I figured it was for anchoring. But every person I ever talked to said they didn't anchor the thrower just the snare.

Newt do you anchor just the snare? Ever lose the thrower after a catch was made. Very catch I ever made the belisle was inside the catch circle most the time buried with grass or leaves. I thought about attaching piece surveyor tape to the belisle so when a catch was made it was easier to find. Ever try that? With the price of them I always worried about losing them. I only have half dozen. But they definitely have a place on the trapline, both ADC and fur trapping.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997028
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Yes its for anchoring the trap. NO I never seen why tho. Never lost one. After all It aint gona get carryed away.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997046
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Like Beav eluded to, I'm kind of interested in trying 1 to see what they can do.
I wonder if chew outs could be an issue...
I also wonder how they'd work for bobcat.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997049
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Wouldn't stainless cable be to stiff as to locking up as good as a softer cable??

You would have to chop out a huge trap bed to bed that trap. And that would be a major project In frozen ground.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997056
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When I saw 1 in person, I don't necessarily remember it being overly bulky. I haven't tried bedding 1 though.

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: The Beav] #5997143
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Wouldn't stainless cable be to stiff as to locking up as good as a softer cable??

You would have to chop out a huge trap bed to bed that trap. And that would be a major project In frozen ground.


7x19 Stainless Steel cable is not stif.Even in 1/8"

No more than a DLS
And then when there is frozen ground. I eather go to snares or go south.


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