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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997187
09/12/17 05:02 PM
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Just get one and try it if its legal

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997333
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If you used one or even seen one beav. You would realize they would be easy to bed. Like double long but easier bc you don't have to dig wide trenches for the longsprings. With waxed dirt, peat, and polyfil they work great in freezing weather. I have heard of issues using coverhulls causing issues with the snare. But waxed dirt or waxed sand will keep it working just like any other foothold. It's fast like foothold but soon as animal lunges the snare tightens on the leg and the belisle falls off with little struggle. Then the 1/8 inch cable , swivels, and shock spring hold the coyote, Fox, or bobcat. Some possums, skunks and coons will slip the noose but not all. I have half dozen i might just get out and use this season. I been holding off on using them. But I used them years back and loved them. They really snap out of the ground and catch high enough for yotes to be perfectly caught. I believe this was the first yote I ever caught in belisle foot snare. You can't see the belisle but it's in the catch circle.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997376
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2traps the long link is to attach to a drag. I cut the link off because if you catch a yote with trap attached to the drag the trap can get bent out of shape. Newt and Darcy were going to make a video using this tool .

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997576
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Thanks for the input 2 TRAPS.
Nice photo by the way.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5997588
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https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/WCSBFS6.html


Well 2 traps I posted a link to the trap so I guess I've seen one. And yes I've actually played around with one. And I'm sticking to my foot holds. When you make a catch with a foot hold you just re set. With one of those foot snare contraptions you have to re build It or put In new one.
I used those collraums (sp) 20 years ago and yes I caught coyotes In them but they won't out produce a foot hold. And I feel the same about these foot snares. I guess the old dog new trick thing applies here. LOL


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998223
09/13/17 08:37 PM
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They work just as well if not better then a foothold trap. They hold very well so pullouts are non-existent with coyote Fox and bobcat. For remake you detach snare from anchor with the quick connect. Place new snare on the anchor and set foot snare. Bed trap and place cable on the correct way. Cover trap, Add what you want. Backing, bait, lure, urine, etc.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: red webb] #5998231
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Originally Posted By: red webb
2traps the long link is to attach to a drag. I cut the link off because if you catch a yote with trap attached to the drag the trap can get bent out of shape. Newt and Darcy were going to make a video using this tool .


Do you still anchor snare solid? Or do you have snare and trap connected to drag? If so I can see.the jaws getting bent fairly easy. That's beauty of the device bc itd
s the snare that holds the animal not the trap. So when a catch is made the belisle flys off after snare clinches down on the leg/foot. Wish i had half dozen stainless belisle to try out. But they are high dollar. To expensive for fur trapping


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998452
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I watched the horribly made video (no offense to Frenchy or wherever he was from) but don't understand what closes the snare.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 52Carl] #5998499
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Originally Posted By: 52Carl
I watched the horribly made video (no offense to Frenchy or wherever he was from) but don't understand what closes the snare.
basically when the trap closes it releases the snare and as the animal struggles it tightens the snare then the trap eventually pops off from the fight

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998604
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2traps the long link is to attach to a drag. I cut the link off because if you catch a yote with trap attached to the drag the trap can get bent out of shape. Newt and Darcy were going to make a video using this tool .


Do you still anchor snare solid? Or do you have snare and trap connected to drag? If so I can see.the jaws getting bent fairly easy. That's beauty of the device bc itd
s the snare that holds the animal not the trap. So when a catch is made the belisle flys off after snare clinches down on the leg/foot. Wish i had half dozen stainless belisle to try out. But they are high dollar. To expensive for fur trapping


So do you have any tangles with snare and the loose trap once they have separated?


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998634
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Most of the time the trap is thrown outside the catch circle. Never had the trap tangled with the snare. Good tool to trap around lots of people and dogs. But like you said deer are trouble.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998791
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Icaught skunk one time that never got the belisle off his leg.

Red when you use the belisle do you anchor your snare under the trap or do try to strech snare out and anchor away from trap bed. This is how I do it. I figured the sooner the snare closed the better. But the belisle may hang on longer then I expect. I plan to use the.half dozen I have again this year. Been trying to get hog snared using the six inch belisle. Just haven't connected with one yet. Wish we could legally use the eight inch version in Virginia.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: red webb] #5998816
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Originally Posted By: red webb
But like you said deer are trouble.
This seems to be 1 reason some don't use foot snares. It's part of the reason I am thinking about going with a slightly weaker BAD...one that hopefully would hold most yotes but release most deer.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998874
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If I could find some gregerson locks in the 1/8 cable seize I think they should work. Should reap out with deer but hold coyote.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998972
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Now that's a good idea. I have some of them gregerson locks but they are 3/32 size. For live marketing or trapping were domestics are high. This tool really shines. They are the.most humane trapping device I know of that holds the animal by the foot or leg. I'm talking about the standard belisle foot snare not the selective. But i would like to try the selective out. I plan to buy some stainless belisle to have. Haven't seen price on the selective yet.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5998984
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Where do you buy these gregerson's? I'm not familiar with them. How about a link, maybe a photo?

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999002
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I think this is what you guys are talking about. I see The Snare Shop sells these too. They appear to come in 3 sizes. I've never seen this particular device. I'm not sure if it's legal everywhere, or if it's better than a traditional BAD on a 6" Belisle. Hmmm. Interesting.
https://www.dakotalinesnares.com/products/gregerson-snare-locks?variant=41828979667

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: AJE] #5999099
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Originally Posted By: AJE
I think this is what you guys are talking about. I see The Snare Shop sells these too. They appear to come in 3 sizes. I've never seen this particular device. I'm not sure if it's legal everywhere, or if it's better than a traditional BAD on a 6" Belisle. Hmmm. Interesting.
https://www.dakotalinesnares.com/products/gregerson-snare-locks?variant=41828979667
What about a release ferrule?

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999487
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A release ferral may work.I have rodeoed deer.Aint that big of a think. Kinda fun realy.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999491
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Ya until you get one of those 300Lb 12 point bucks hung up.
I'm sure WI regs include some type of BAD.


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