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#5998248 - 09/13/17 07:56 PM Just how strong is a coyote?
Ave Offline
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Registered: 10/30/16
Posts: 314
Loc: Ohio, USA
What's your opinion? Is an 18 inch Wolf fang enough? Even if the weather gets really wet and muddy? I'm just double checking as I've seen them bend the dogs on traps and heard that they can straighten quick links. Just how strong are they? Thanks
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#5998254 - 09/13/17 07:59 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
trapperkeck Offline
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Registered: 11/12/07
Posts: 6396
Loc: Crofton, NE
18" will be plenty in all but the softest/sandiest ground. Even mud shouldn't be a problem. Sugar sand might be a different story, but even then, if you push the chain in a bit, you can set them deeper.
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#5998271 - 09/13/17 08:11 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
trapper20 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/05/14
Posts: 1580
Loc: SW WI
Pull test one when it gets muddy. I've had some earth anchors that I could pull out of the mud( wouldn't trust holding a coyote)
I still use them in most soils but if it's soft or I know it's muddy I'll use a 24"

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#5998302 - 09/13/17 08:26 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
Tactical.20 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 10333
Loc: N.W. Iowa
I don't think I've ever made one longer than 14"

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#5998311 - 09/13/17 08:31 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
trapper20 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/05/14
Posts: 1580
Loc: SW WI
I didn't think I'd need longer ones either, but I could pull it out one handed while setting it. And I'm not a monster of a guy either. Only happened once or twice though, but I've never lost a trap with the anchors

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#5998314 - 09/13/17 08:33 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
Tactical.20 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 10333
Loc: N.W. Iowa
See if you can pull it out from the side, not straight up

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#5998399 - 09/13/17 09:29 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
LDW Offline
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Registered: 03/12/16
Posts: 555
Loc: N.E. Nebr
All my Wolf Fangs are 15in. I use them from on sandbars to sugar sand pastures. Never had a problem.

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#5998609 - 09/14/17 07:44 AM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Tactical.20]
Bob Offline
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Registered: 01/09/07
Posts: 1136
Loc: Eastern Mt, 27 yrs old
a coyote is just as strong as you think it is, plus a little. NEVER walk away from a coyote set if you aren't 100% confident in the staking. I've learned that lesson the hard way.
That said it depends on your soil. 18" of stake in my country will hold until the chain breaks. I almost never use more than 12, and even then the chain breaks before the stake pulls half the time. As a rule of thumb, if I grab the trap and pull and it gives at all, it's not good enough. Take no risks. If you think you could "get away" with 18, go 24.
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#5998631 - 09/14/17 08:18 AM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
Tactical.20 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 10333
Loc: N.W. Iowa
Og says they can build up 400 lbs of force on a 10' chain, if I remember right

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#5998637 - 09/14/17 08:34 AM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
YamaCat Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Posts: 399
Loc: Arizona
Not just Strong but very relentless. They will find the weak link if there is one.

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#5998787 - 09/14/17 12:08 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: YamaCat]
nightlife Offline
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Registered: 05/05/08
Posts: 2005
Loc: Mn
Originally Posted By: YamaCat
Not just Strong but very relentless. They will find the weak link if there is one.


Ya they just keep trying, kind of like cutting down a tree with an ax they just keep hammering on it till something gives if there is a weak spot it will give sooner or later
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#5998870 - 09/14/17 01:45 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
Kyt Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 927
Loc: Kentucky
The average coyote is strong, but some are 2 to 3 times as strong as the average. I caught a huge male coyote in 1.5 standand victor 2coil. No problem. My improvised shock spring was none the worse for wear. Another smaller, leaner coyote in a vic 3- 4 coil straightened that spring like it was nothing . The only way I could deform it was in a vise. The trap dog was bent and twisted so much it was nearly free.

Those are the ones that will find the weak spot in the gear. The depth needed depends on how uniform the soil is. If there are cavities in the dirt column due to rotten roots or loose packed rock, loose sand, I don't trust any anchor to hold. I've lost traps and don't intend to lose any more. If the anchor goes in too easy I am suspicious and move to another spot.

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#5998992 - 09/14/17 05:13 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Kyt]
upstateNY Offline
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Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 6755
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: Kyt
The average coyote is strong, but some are 2 to 3 times as strong as the average. I caught a huge male coyote in 1.5 standand victor 2coil. No problem. My improvised shock spring was none the worse for wear. Another smaller, leaner coyote in a vic 3- 4 coil straightened that spring like it was nothing . The only way I could deform it was in a vise. The trap dog was bent and twisted so much it was nearly free.

Those are the ones that will find the weak spot in the gear. The depth needed depends on how uniform the soil is. If there are cavities in the dirt column due to rotten roots or loose packed rock, loose sand, I don't trust any anchor to hold. I've lost traps and don't intend to lose any more. If the anchor goes in too easy I am suspicious and move to another spot.
set your traps backwards so they cant use the dog for a chew toy.
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#5999004 - 09/14/17 05:22 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
BigBob Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 13449
Loc: St. Louis Co, Mo
I always double stake when Yote's are involved.
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#5999142 - 09/14/17 07:53 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
backroadsarcher Offline
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Registered: 11/22/12
Posts: 534
Loc: Frazee, MN
I use 16'' wolf fanges here in this sandy soil. I think I could get by with even shorter.

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#5999154 - 09/14/17 08:13 PM Re: Just how strong is a coyote? [Re: Ave]
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Registered: 11/10/13
Posts: 3667
Loc: Bland Virginia
As strong if not stronger then you.
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