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#6074665 - 12/04/17 09:01 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Cole semo Offline
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Registered: 11/29/16
Posts: 643
Loc: North Dakota
243 90 grain or fmj

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#6074673 - 12/04/17 09:04 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
gutthooked Offline
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Registered: 12/15/10
Posts: 2349
Loc: uniontown pa
A 300 mag works for me, no tracking involved drop in their tracks and with a bad market your only out a few shells.. lol
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#6074702 - 12/04/17 09:20 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: bucksnbears]
Ridge Runner1960 Offline
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Registered: 12/20/08
Posts: 2762
Loc: eastern WV
Originally Posted By: bucksnbears
Ridge Runner, whenever a topic of caliber/ cartridge comes up, I always wait for you chime in with your " opinion" laugh lol

Yeah, you're knowledgeable kinda/ sorta but sometimes it just best to pass on the subject wink

1) the guy said he has no plans to reload due to time/space
2) I may be kinda sorta knowledgeable but my reading comprehension is ok.
RR
BTW golf ball was obviously talking about the 17 rimfire, which I was also, if you don't know enough to know you "just don't know" its not my fault


Edited by Ridge Runner1960 (12/04/17 09:25 PM)

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#6074705 - 12/04/17 09:25 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Preacherman Les Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 622
Loc: AR
What I've used through the years: 22lr, 22 mag, 17 hmr, 17 rem, 204 ruger, 22 hornet, 221 fireball, 222 rem, 223 rem, 22-250, 257 roberts, 25-06, 6.5 creed, 12 & 20 gauge. Probably another 1 or 2 that slips my mind at the moment.
What I still use: 204 (mostly), 223 (occasionally). Every now & then the 22 mag or 22-250 for unique circumstances. 12 gauge with bb's in heavy cover. It's' what works for me in my area.

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#6074825 - 12/04/17 11:02 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Willy Firewood Online   content
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Registered: 07/31/17
Posts: 236
Loc: Ohio
Well, very interesting discussion here - it looks wisest for me to ride out the year with what works for me already. I will continue to read ballistics tables and listen to opinions. When hunting, I need to produce results meaning dead coyotes. The .243 does that unquestionably. The new Wicked light setup with 3 LED colors is an incredible upgrade for this year.

I still would like to try the .17 Remington centerfire, but not getting into reloading precludes that. The .17 Winchester Super Magnum is incredibly tempting. Maybe Remington could top that with a .17 Remington Ultra Magnum Rimfire?

Best wishes.

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#6074871 - 12/05/17 01:14 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
beltrami trapper Offline
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Registered: 11/25/12
Posts: 1372
Loc: northern minnesota
I will start by saying I dont do as much predator hunting as some of the guys here but most of the calling that I have done has been in close quarter areas, and mainly for bobcat and fox with shots usually always under 100 yards. For those situations I prefer using my 22 hornet but if I am feeling nostalgic I will drag out my old marlin lever action in 219 zipper. When I go a little farther west and hunt the flatlands I carry my ruger m77 target 223 with 26" barrel.

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#6075043 - 12/05/17 08:21 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 12566
Loc: nm
Last night I was researching the effective range of 22lr as that's what I'll be using for now, and there is so many different opinions. Some say 100-150 , 75, 100-200 & then there's those 300-500 yards. Saw a video of some guys at 200 shooting through 1/2" pine another guy shooting 300 yds and it goes through 8 layers of denim and a roast.

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#6075070 - 12/05/17 08:52 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Saskayote Offline
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Registered: 11/21/13
Posts: 472
Loc: SK
Originally Posted By: adam m
Last night I was researching the effective range of 22lr as that's what I'll be using for now, and there is so many different opinions. Some say 100-150 , 75, 100-200 & then there's those 300-500 yards. Saw a video of some guys at 200 shooting through 1/2" pine another guy shooting 300 yds and it goes through 8 layers of denim and a roast.


I suggest you keep it under 50.

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#6075074 - 12/05/17 08:58 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
LeviSS Offline
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Registered: 12/12/12
Posts: 196
Loc: Central IL
Did anyone here suggest .22lr? Don't do it. That's the last round I'd use.

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#6075144 - 12/05/17 10:28 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: LeviSS]
Saskayote Offline
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Registered: 11/21/13
Posts: 472
Loc: SK
Originally Posted By: LeviSS
Did anyone here suggest .22lr? Don't do it. That's the last round I'd use.


I didn't suggest it, but it is what I use. And it IS fine, contrary to the naysayers, if you keep shots under 50 yards. Some of us hunt differently, we strive to get close. If we are not close, we do not shoot. As one gets more seasoned in hunting, one often makes more of the fact that it is not about the killing, but about the challenge. Like bow hunting.

Works for me. May not work for all.

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#6075187 - 12/05/17 11:20 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 12566
Loc: nm
I wasn't wanting to go for a long shot with the 22lr maybe 125-150 max with cci stinger.

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#6075200 - 12/05/17 11:34 AM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
GREENCOUNTYPETE Online   content
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Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 1507
Loc: Green County Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: adam m
I wasn't wanting to go for a long shot with the 22lr maybe 125-150 max with cci stinger.


I can't say about coyote but with a 22lr on a wood chuck you need to keep it to head shots at 75-100 yards or they get back to the hole even with stingers.

the thing is if your sighted at 50 yards , by 150 you will have dropped off the coyote , so you would need to know distance to about 10 yards and where to old over for all of them

a typical 22lr 1200fps drops 6 inches between 77 and 100 meters or 85 and 109 yards

a stinger is lighter and 200 fps faster so you might get a bit more range before seeing the same drop but not much more maybe 25 yards
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#6075225 - 12/05/17 12:05 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Golf ball Offline
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Registered: 12/19/14
Posts: 776
Loc: E central Il
Thank you Ridge Runner !

Yes I was talking about the .17 rimfire. The OP said no reloading and no oddball cartridges, pretty much eliminates everything else.

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#6075247 - 12/05/17 12:29 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Aix sponsa Offline
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Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 5939
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: adam m
Last night I was researching the effective range of 22lr as that's what I'll be using for now, and there is so many different opinions. Some say 100-150 , 75, 100-200 & then there's those 300-500 yards. Saw a video of some guys at 200 shooting through 1/2" pine another guy shooting 300 yds and it goes through 8 layers of denim and a roast.


If you're going to be sticking with a 22LR, consider the CCI Velocitors. I'm a big fan of Stingers, so don't get me wrong, but the Velocitor offers a bit more punch. At 100 yards, it's going as fast or faster than a Stinger, and it has over 20% more energy at 100 yards. Even so, I'd recommend keeping shots within reason, and that probably means 75 yards or less. I mean we're talking about a 22 LR.

I wouldn't expect to recover many coyotes shot with a 22LR beyond 75 yards, unless you're an incredible shot and can put the bullet in their ear consistently. My opinion at least, and you know what they say about opinions...


I've only shot one coyote with a 22LR. It spun in circles chasing it's tail for a couple seconds, and then it hauled tail into the sunset. I know that means nothing really, but it's my only experience with it.


Lots of good suggestions on this thread so far. I have always wanted a 243, but I haven't broken down and bought one yet. I think it would offer a bit more bite than my 223s.

Good Luck
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#6075372 - 12/05/17 02:03 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Golf ball Offline
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Registered: 12/19/14
Posts: 776
Loc: E central Il
Aix I have to admit I came to own my .243 by accident but if I lost it today I would be shopping for another mod. 70 with a bull barrel tomorrow! Itís a very versatile gun for a reloader, from 55 up to I think 110 gr. bullets. I settled on 65 gr. v-max for coyote and Iíve yet to have an exit hole !

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#6075377 - 12/05/17 02:09 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 12566
Loc: nm
Good to know thanks Aix.
The reason for my inquiry is it looks like calling might be my best bet to get fur (yotes, fox, cat). As I would have to drive 45+minutes each way to get to my line where I can drive up to each set and seeing how my health is unpredictable there's days I can't function, ijust don't see that happening. The only other way is make a camp somewhere and stay 1-2 weeks set all traps and be done. All my traps are ready to set.

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#6075405 - 12/05/17 02:40 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
MAArcher Offline
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Registered: 02/22/17
Posts: 99
Loc: MA
I have a .223 I built from an 80% receiver and Palmetto State .223 wylde upper that I'm looking forward to using this winter.

I've killed coyote with a 22 mag and a .17 Winchester Super Magnum (not to be confused with a .17 Rem or a .17 HMR).

The 22 mag is a Marlin 922M wood stocked semi-auto topped with an old Leupold and it is just a fun gun to shoot.

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#6075512 - 12/05/17 04:45 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
Ridge Runner1960 Offline
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Registered: 12/20/08
Posts: 2762
Loc: eastern WV
what folks don't realize is a faster twist turns a rifle into a totally different animal, an 8 twist 223 does less fur damage and will have less exit holes than a 12 or a 10 twist simply because the bullet spins much faster, the spin aids in expansion, the 223 wyld is a good choice.
RR


Edited by Ridge Runner1960 (12/05/17 04:48 PM)

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#6075615 - 12/05/17 06:01 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
That Fool Offline
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Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 461
Loc: Alaska Northwestern
I have been using 223 for wolves, and caribou. I build myself an ar 204 ruger upper for my ar 15. love it! It works pretty good on the fur, small hole going in, rarely exits. i use 45 grain soft points.

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#6075696 - 12/05/17 07:19 PM Re: predator calling gun [Re: adam m]
MJM Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 4924
Loc: ND
I would carry a 12 ga, any day of the week before I took a 22LR. I have skinned 100's of shotgunned coyotes and they are not hurt. I 22LR is not a coyote calling gun. You will loose way more than you recover.
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