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#6075626 - 12/05/17 06:09 PM American Embassy Move?
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What are your thoughts about the American embassy in Israel being moved from Tell Aviv to Jerusalem?

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#6075630 - 12/05/17 06:18 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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If Israel considers Jerusalem their capital then I see no problem in the U.S. recognizing it also. I know it will upset some folks but you can't please everyone.

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#6075641 - 12/05/17 06:25 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: J Staton]
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Originally Posted By: J Staton
If Israel considers Jerusalem their capital then I see no problem in the U.S. recognizing it also. I know it will upset some folks but you can't please everyone.


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#6075646 - 12/05/17 06:29 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Israel allows mosques in Jerusalem, no synagogues in Riyadh thou..try to open one there and you will be beheaded.

In the Yom Kippur war which was started by a surprise attack by the arabs, Israel took control of Jerusalem..... they paln to keep control of it. Good for them, US embassy in Jerusalem would be fine by me.
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#6075726 - 12/05/17 07:47 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Doesn't Palestine also consider Jerusalem their capital?

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#6075731 - 12/05/17 07:51 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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jews muslims and christians been fighting over jeruselem for about 1000 years now
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#6075732 - 12/05/17 07:51 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Doesn't Palestine also consider Jerusalem their capital?




Here we go .........
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#6075746 - 12/05/17 07:58 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Its always been the capital of the victor. Currently thats Israel.

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#6075776 - 12/05/17 08:18 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I'm happy to see it getting moved there. I never understood why we had our embassy in Tel Aviv, other than the airport is there. Tel Aviv is the Vegas of Isreal.

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#6075791 - 12/05/17 08:25 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Whats so great about that place?

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#6075795 - 12/05/17 08:29 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Who gives a dam? They could put a kiosk up in whatever city they agreed to and close it for all we need embassies. Telecommute.

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#6075802 - 12/05/17 08:35 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Boco]
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Whats so great about that place?



Biblical significance ......Jerusalem is the center of the universe
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#6075805 - 12/05/17 08:37 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Doesn't Palestine also consider Jerusalem their capital?


No such nation.

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#6075845 - 12/05/17 09:06 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I think the only fair way to deal with it is to make it its own country like the Vatican. Except No one faith gets to lay claim.


Edited by Rye (12/05/17 09:06 PM)
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#6075848 - 12/05/17 09:07 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Okay with it in principle just don't like to spend the money when the one in Tel Aviv is fine.
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#6075891 - 12/05/17 09:43 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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FlyinFinn the idea is good but there's too many other issues that can't be resolved via telecommute, especially with how many Americans goto Israel every year. Seeing how tour groups only spend the first night in Tel Aviv and the majority of nights in Jerusalem it makes more sense to be in the center of the world.

Corky the Tel Aviv one is old and run down (from the outside anyway). I walked by it every sabbath as my church was around the corner from it. The embassy is right on the beach, which makes it very susceptible to being attacked from boats. Also Tel Aviv gets more rocket attacks and other attacks than Jerusalem. All the more reason to move the embassy.

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#6075912 - 12/05/17 10:03 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Sac Creek]
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Originally Posted By: Sac Creek
Its always been the capital of the victor. Currently thats Israel.



Victor? Wouldn't that be Britain?

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#6075913 - 12/05/17 10:04 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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The Canucks should take control.



Where's Boco?

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#6075920 - 12/05/17 10:14 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Yep,be no trouble there if Trudope was in control.They all sit around the bong singing kumbaya.


Edited by Boco (12/05/17 10:15 PM)

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#6075993 - 12/05/17 11:55 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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It will have consequences. There will most likely be a resurgence of attacks in Israel. Probably stop peace talks the highly qualified son-in-law is trying to conduct. Other than that, we gain...nothing from it. Hmmmm

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#6076024 - 12/06/17 04:41 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I say let England sort it out. Its their mess. Starting with the crusades and evolving into the nation called British Palestine. European Jews immigrated there, kicked out the English and took over. (somehow that sounds familiar) If they want our tax dollars and military they ought to give us land/water for a 100,000 man military base.
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#6076430 - 12/06/17 01:39 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Bucksnorts]
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It will have consequences. There will most likely be a resurgence of attacks in Israel. Probably stop peace talks the highly qualified son-in-law is trying to conduct. Other than that, we gain...nothing from it. Hmmmm


The peace process is a joke. There will never be peace with the Palestinians no matter what they do. The Palestinians are taught in their schools and homes to hate the Jews practically from infancy. Their goal is to wipe the Israelis of the face of the earth. Pretty hard to get peace out of a goal like that.
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#6076487 - 12/06/17 02:42 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I say, "If it Ain't Broke Don't Fix It". Not our business. We stick our nose in too many places and this will only stir up the Muslims. Bad idea.

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#6076538 - 12/06/17 04:06 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Fisherman]
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Originally Posted By: Fisherman
I say, "If it Ain't Broke Don't Fix It". Not our business. We stick our nose in too many places and this will only stir up the Muslims. Bad idea.


They have been well stirred for ages. Nothing that is done in Israel is going to change that. So they may as well do whatever they want instead of bending over backwards to please some muslim or another. Heck those guys can't even have peace with each other, let alone with a different religion.
The only reason that the muslims have not waged war with Israel, is that they a skewed to meet those 40 virgins if they try. They may have figured out that those 40 chicks have been around for a long time now and are still virgins. ....... So either they have a real bad temper or a butt ugly wink


Edited by Scuba1 (12/06/17 04:10 PM)
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#6076543 - 12/06/17 04:11 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Rye]
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Originally Posted By: Rye
I think the only fair way to deal with it is to make it its own country like the Vatican. Except No one faith gets to lay claim.
That was the UN's original plan back in 1947 the brits would give up Israel and it would be come an independent Arab and an independent Jewish State with Jerusalem becoming an international city under the administration of the UN but the Arab-Israeli Was started before it could be put into effect.

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#6076567 - 12/06/17 04:42 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Countries pick their own capital cities. Israel picked Jerusalem as their capital city. Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel, despite all the politically correct junk other countries pretend to believe.

The Palestinians call Jerusalem their capitol because they are self delusional. The Palestinians don't possess Jerusalem and most likely never will.

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#6076572 - 12/06/17 04:46 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Jerusalem has been considered Israel's capital for thousands of years by the Jews. All the U.S. is doing is saying "Okay we're fine with that."

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#6076577 - 12/06/17 04:51 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Um.....the Jews haven't had a nation since Jerusalem fell to Babylon 2,500 years ago.

Wasn't not till the middle of the 20th century that they had an independent nation again, granted to them by the Brits.

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#6076648 - 12/06/17 05:53 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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^^^^^^^
However, it wasn't really the Brits to "grant", a grant implies ownership, they merely stepped aside from being a custodian more or less.

Back in the 90's our US Congress (both House and Senate) voted nearly unanimously to move our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Trump finally did what has been the obvious, and officially recognized Jerusalem as the Capitol of Israel.
For what it's worth there has never been a nation of "Palestine", that just a name for a region.
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#6076686 - 12/06/17 06:14 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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#6076690 - 12/06/17 06:16 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Muslims are a peaceful bunch as soon as we are all Muslims.
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#6076763 - 12/06/17 07:17 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I would expect nothing less from the dotard in chief. Poorly calculated political move to pander to some factions of his shrinking base.
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#6076770 - 12/06/17 07:25 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: madcotrappwr]
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Originally Posted By: madcotrappwr
Muslims are a peaceful bunch as soon as we are all Muslims.


Correction, as soon as everybody is one flavor of Muslim. Muslims believe other flavors of Muslims need to die as much or more than infidels.

Keith

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#6076779 - 12/06/17 07:34 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Typical Trump misdirection. Investigation isn't going so well, so he stirs up a bunch of crap in the middle east.

Let's stop making decisions based on what the Israel wants and, even better, stop sending 3 Billion in taxpayer dollars there.
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#6076786 - 12/06/17 07:42 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: adam m]
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Originally Posted By: adam m
FlyinFinn the idea is good but there's too many other issues that can't be resolved via telecommute, especially with how many Americans goto Israel every year. Seeing how tour groups only spend the first night in Tel Aviv and the majority of nights in Jerusalem it makes more sense to be in the center of the world.

Corky the Tel Aviv one is old and run down (from the outside anyway). I walked by it every sabbath as my church was around the corner from it. The embassy is right on the beach, which makes it very susceptible to being attacked from boats. Also Tel Aviv gets more rocket attacks and other attacks than Jerusalem. All the more reason to move the embassy.

Visited Tel-Aviv in 1993 while stationed in the Sinai. Used our military IDs to enter the embassy to go to the PX. We were soon confronted by security and promptly kicked out for not being invited as guests! After a couple of fellow soldiers profanely voiced their opinion about the head of security's mother, we were instructed not to be back. We viewed the embassy as being a piece of home after 4 months in the wilderness?!?! We stayed at a hostel right up the street from the embassy.
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#6076827 - 12/06/17 08:13 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Ya I don't think U.S.Embassy's want average American idiots wandering around the building they paid for. It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

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#6076835 - 12/06/17 08:17 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Um.....the Jews haven't had a nation since Jerusalem fell to Babylon 2,500 years ago.

Wasn't not till the middle of the 20th century that they had an independent nation again, granted to them by the Brits.
If the U.S. fell to Russia and we the people were sent into exile, would you still consider Washington D.C. the nations capital while without a nation? How about when you retook that nation?

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#6076839 - 12/06/17 08:18 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Fisherman]
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Originally Posted By: Fisherman
I say, "If it Ain't Broke Don't Fix It". Not our business. We stick our nose in too many places and this will only stir up the Muslims. Bad idea.


They haven't been stirred up anyway? As long as Israel exists and America too, they will be stirred up? Let's not base our decisions on placating Muslims.

This should have been done decades ago.


Edited by JakeDog (12/06/17 08:19 PM)
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#6076887 - 12/06/17 08:44 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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This is a huge move. For the better I believe. Finally showing our allies where we stand. If we turn our backs on them, why should we expect any better. And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't an American embassy considered American soil? Read your Bible for how this story turns out, (i won't give away the ending)...lol
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#6077044 - 12/06/17 11:54 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I'm pretty happy about it. Israel needs our full support after the last clown in office. Its also safer for Americans visiting for the embassy to be moved. I'm really proud of what President Trump is doing. Really hoping he signs that tax bill soon. That would put a lot more money in my pocket. Maybe use it to go to Israel:)

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#6077047 - 12/07/17 12:04 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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The USA should stand with Israel 100%. Glad Trump shows that he does. Another campaign promise kept.
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#6077049 - 12/07/17 12:10 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Marty]
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The USA should stand with Israel 100%. Glad Trump shows that he does. Another campaign promise kept.



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#6077114 - 12/07/17 05:35 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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So the United States gives the palestines over $500 million
a year just to be spit on? Go figure.
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#6077134 - 12/07/17 06:00 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Typical Trump misdirection. Investigation isn't going so well, so he stirs up a bunch of crap in the middle east.

Let's stop making decisions based on what the Israel wants and, even better, stop sending 3 Billion in taxpayer dollars there.


You actually believe that investigation is real??? Seriously? WOW -
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#6077143 - 12/07/17 06:10 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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All we are doing is moving an embassy. Israel owes us a favor now, and I have a feeling that it will be Israel who deals with Iran when time comes instead of the USA.
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#6077159 - 12/07/17 06:23 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: Blaine County
Typical Trump misdirection. Investigation isn't going so well, so he stirs up a bunch of crap in the middle east.

Let's stop making decisions based on what the Israel wants and, even better, stop sending 3 Billion in taxpayer dollars there.


I don't know what you've been listening to, but I think the "investigation" has been going very well for Trump this week. It's looking like the real collusion has been between the FBI and the Clinton campaign.
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#6077237 - 12/07/17 07:49 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: JakeDog]
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Originally Posted By: Blaine County
Typical Trump misdirection. Investigation isn't going so well, so he stirs up a bunch of crap in the middle east.

Let's stop making decisions based on what the Israel wants and, even better, stop sending 3 Billion in taxpayer dollars there.


You actually believe that investigation is real??? Seriously? WOW -


You don't believe there is an investigation happening? WOW. An investigation is actually happening. The result is undetermined. However, it is not going well for Trump and his minions.
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#6077245 - 12/07/17 07:58 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I thought this was about the U.S. Embassy being moved to Jerusalem, being the capital?

Apparently some on here can't stick to the reason of moving it. Seeing that 4 presidents before didn't.

This president stated this would be done back before he was elected. True to his word. More than I can say for some.
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#6077250 - 12/07/17 08:00 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Difference between a witch hunt and an investigation.

Go ahead and show us the basis FOR this "investigation" and after millions of taxpayers dollars show us ONE shred, just a shred of evidence that there is any collusion with Russia OTHER than the collusion between Clinton, Obama, the FBI with Russia.

Go ahead - dig through CNN files they dont have any either but go ahead.
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#6077257 - 12/07/17 08:07 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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What benefit does the US get from supporting a small middle eastern country with few resources?

How did the region view the US prior to WWII? What changed?

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#6077271 - 12/07/17 08:18 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Blaine , just a heads up. The last person that the Russians wanted in the Whitehouse was Trump. He is causing them all sorts of head aches. Remember when the NK runt used to rattle his saber with Zero in office. Zero just threw money at him. Russia does not want what Trump is doing. Same with Iran and a bunch or other international matters where Russia is finding itself now holding the short straw. So they did not have a motive to even try to fix the election in Trumps favor. They would have had a lot better time with the hag at the wheel.
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#6077291 - 12/07/17 08:35 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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That's wild Scout1, what's the px? The hostels there can be crazy.

Isn't it interesting the US has most of their embassies in the capital of each country but not Isreal?

The only way to move our embassy in the near future is to buy an already built building, aND uparade it. The reason being is the requirement of archeological digs prior to building. If anything is found the build is suspended until the significance is determined if really significant the build will be delayed for years


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#6077305 - 12/07/17 08:45 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Adam the US embassy in Germany is in Frankfurt ..not in Berlin
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#6077326 - 12/07/17 09:01 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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The changes to that part of the world happened more at
the end of WW1,when the Ottoman empire was defeated,
and the winning European countries devided it into
"zones of interest". How Israel was formed started during WW1,
the promise of a Jewish Homeland heavily influenced which side
the international banking community funded,and in turn which side
America joined.
The bottom line is,it's their country,however they got it,
they should be able to say where their capitol is.
The U.S. embassy to Germany is in Frankfurt because Berlin was in the Soviet
zone of occupation until a few years ago.

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#6077348 - 12/07/17 09:13 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Scuba1]
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
Adam the US embassy in Germany is in Frankfurt ..not in Berlin

Thanks for the catch I thought I wrote "most of"

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#6077350 - 12/07/17 09:16 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Scuba1]
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
Blaine , just a heads up. The last person that the Russians wanted in the Whitehouse was Trump. He is causing them all sorts of head aches. Remember when the NK runt used to rattle his saber with Zero in office. Zero just threw money at him. Russia does not want what Trump is doing. Same with Iran and a bunch or other international matters where Russia is finding itself now holding the short straw. So they did not have a motive to even try to fix the election in Trumps favor. They would have had a lot better time with the hag at the wheel.


You realize Trump hasn't instituted the bipartisan sanctions Congress voted for earlier this year right? Trump demonstrates he is Putin's handmaiden every day.

To all those that believe this investigation is a "witch Hunt" and there is "no shred of evidence", I suspect you get your news from only watching FOX News opinion readers. Quit watching news readers and opinion people like Hannity. Read every news source. Read both foreign and domstic. Then you can triangulate data rather than just believe the alternative reality created by FOX.


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#6077357 - 12/07/17 09:29 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Art S]
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Originally Posted By: Art S

The U.S. embassy to Germany is in Frankfurt because Berlin was in the Soviet
zone of occupation until a few years ago.


Before the move back to Berlin, the German capital was Bonn.
Frankfurt is an important European financial center if you will, but it was never the capital of Germany.
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#6077358 - 12/07/17 09:29 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Why would any decent person care if the Russians helped trump get in the white house.

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#6077363 - 12/07/17 09:31 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Scuba1]
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Scuba, quit wasting your time trying to change a liberal's mind. These guys actually believe the Russian collusion thing is real despite the fact that there have been ongoing investigations by every federal investigation and spy organization in the government for over a year, millions of taxpayer dollars wasted, special investigatory committees formed, a special prosecutor appointed...liberal newspapers doing their own investigations, they even paid a former spy to put together a fake dossier. And don't forget the liberal media hammering the collusion message over and over and over again in their attempt to complete their brainwashing of America.

All that and not one shred of evidence to date.

And not one liberal conspiracy theorist has ever been able to give a good answer to the common sense question; why would the Russians want Trump in the Whitehouse instead of Clinton?
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#6077378 - 12/07/17 09:48 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Never said Frankfurt was a capitol,after WW2 Germany was
split into zones of occupation,East Germany was the Soviet zone,
West Germany had 3 zones of occupation,the U.S. decided to put their embassy
in their zone,France and The U.K. put theirs in Bonn the capitol.

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#6077385 - 12/07/17 09:57 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: JakeDog]
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Difference between a witch hunt and an investigation.

Go ahead and show us the basis FOR this "investigation" and after millions of taxpayers dollars show us ONE shred, just a shred of evidence that there is any collusion with Russia OTHER than the collusion between Clinton, Obama, the FBI with Russia.

Go ahead - dig through CNN files they dont have any either but go ahead.


It must be easy not having to think for yourself.
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#6077389 - 12/07/17 10:00 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Scuba1]
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
Blaine , just a heads up. The last person that the Russians wanted in the Whitehouse was Trump. He is causing them all sorts of head aches. Remember when the NK runt used to rattle his saber with Zero in office. Zero just threw money at him. Russia does not want what Trump is doing. Same with Iran and a bunch or other international matters where Russia is finding itself now holding the short straw. So they did not have a motive to even try to fix the election in Trumps favor. They would have had a lot better time with the hag at the wheel.


This isn't a Trump is doing things better or worse than Obama issue. Obama too was a disaster--for different reasons.

I could be wrong as to the end result, but the Mueller noose appears to be tightening.
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#6077391 - 12/07/17 10:02 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: waggler]
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Originally Posted By: waggler
^^^^^^^
However, it wasn't really the Brits to "grant", a grant implies ownership, they merely stepped aside from being a custodian more or less.

Back in the 90's our US Congress (both House and Senate) voted nearly unanimously to move our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Trump finally did what has been the obvious, and officially recognized Jerusalem as the Capitol of Israel.
For what it's worth there has never been a nation of "Palestine", that just a name for a region.


Exactly. The Brits liberated the area from the Ottoman Turks. The Jews were given a mandate of specific land ratified by the League of Nations. The Arabs were given nothing.
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#6077393 - 12/07/17 10:07 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: Blaine County
Originally Posted By: Scuba1
Blaine , just a heads up. The last person that the Russians wanted in the Whitehouse was Trump. He is causing them all sorts of head aches. Remember when the NK runt used to rattle his saber with Zero in office. Zero just threw money at him. Russia does not want what Trump is doing. Same with Iran and a bunch or other international matters where Russia is finding itself now holding the short straw. So they did not have a motive to even try to fix the election in Trumps favor. They would have had a lot better time with the hag at the wheel.


This isn't a Trump is doing things better or worse than Obama issue. Obama too was a disaster--for different reasons.

I could be wrong as to the end result, but the Mueller noose appears to be tightening.


Hillary sold 20% of our uranium to Russia. Wild Bill received $500,000 for the Clinton Foundation for speaking fees from Russia. Russia probably hacked into Hillary's erased emails and has enough dirt on her to put her away for a long time. Trump gets elected and almost immediately slaps sanctions on Russia. And Russia wanted him elected?
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#6077396 - 12/07/17 10:10 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Trapper7-that is called Whataboutism......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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#6077397 - 12/07/17 10:13 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Bucksnorts]
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Originally Posted By: Bucksnorts
Originally Posted By: Scuba1
Blaine , just a heads up. The last person that the Russians wanted in the Whitehouse was Trump. He is causing them all sorts of head aches. Remember when the NK runt used to rattle his saber with Zero in office. Zero just threw money at him. Russia does not want what Trump is doing. Same with Iran and a bunch or other international matters where Russia is finding itself now holding the short straw. So they did not have a motive to even try to fix the election in Trumps favor. They would have had a lot better time with the hag at the wheel.


You realize Trump hasn't instituted the bipartisan sanctions Congress voted for earlier this year right? Trump demonstrates he is Putin's handmaiden every day.

To all those that believe this investigation is a "witch Hunt" and there is "no shred of evidence", I suspect you get your news from only watching FOX News opinion readers. Quit watching news readers and opinion people like Hannity. Read every news source. Read both foreign and domstic. Then you can triangulate data rather than just believe the alternative reality created by FOX.


FOX is the only news source where you will get balanced news. FOX has liberals and conservatives. I can name a number of liberals on FOX. Name me one conservative on any of the other networks.
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#6077401 - 12/07/17 10:16 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: Blaine County
Trapper7-that is called Whataboutism......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism


No, it's called the truth; can't be disproved. BTW, Mueller was involved in the sale of our uranium to Russia as well. Some of Mueller's investigative team are former Clinton Foundation lawyers. Really impartial, huh?
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#6077412 - 12/07/17 10:22 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Lugnut]
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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Scuba, quit wasting your time trying to change a liberal's mind. These guys actually believe the Russian collusion thing is real despite the fact that there have been ongoing investigations by every federal investigation and spy organization in the government for over a year, millions of taxpayer dollars wasted, special investigatory committees formed, a special prosecutor appointed...liberal newspapers doing their own investigations, they even paid a former spy to put together a fake dossier. And don't forget the liberal media hammering the collusion message over and over and over again in their attempt to complete their brainwashing of America.

All that and not one shred of evidence to date.

And not one liberal conspiracy theorist has ever been able to give a good answer to the common sense question; why would the Russians want Trump in the Whitehouse instead of Clinton?



Mueller was appointed on May 17, 2017.

In case math is a struggle. December-May = 7 month investigation.

I might add Hillary Clinton was investigated for Benghazi 6 times over 4 years with nothing actually accomplished. If there had been any real evidence of wrong doing congress could have impeached her (yes, congress can impeach a cabinet member). So please get your information straight. Thus far this 7 month investigation has led to two criminal convictions and two state's witness's. It is moving up the chain. KT Mcfarland is probably next then, Hope Hicks possibly Don Jr. I suspect about that time Trump will follow Nixons lead and fire everyone. We know how that turned out for Nixon.

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#6077417 - 12/07/17 10:29 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: KeithC]
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Originally Posted By: KeithC
Originally Posted By: madcotrappwr
Muslims are a peaceful bunch as soon as we are all Muslims.


Correction, as soon as everybody is one flavor of Muslim. Muslims believe other flavors of Muslims need to die as much or more than infidels.

Keith


You are correct. They live as tribes which are warring factions that hate each other; Sunnis, Kurds, etc. There are several tribes in the area I live in. There is a shopping center near that is owned by one tribe of Muslims. Another Muslim who I know said it's dangerous for a Muslim not of that tribe to go there.
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#6077418 - 12/07/17 10:30 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Trapper7]
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Originally Posted By: Trapper7
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FOX is the only news source where you will get balanced news. FOX has liberals and conservatives. I can name a number of liberals on FOX. Name me one conservative on any of the other networks.



Its so weird that you actually believe that. FOX has editorial control over whatever news reader is speaking. It doesn't matter if they pretend Shepard Smith is a liberal. He is muzzled.

I currently have 9 different news apps on my phone (including FOX). I try to scan/read them all each one day. I challenge you to do the same whether on a phone or on your computer. If you only seek FOX for your info and reject everything else, then well, ignorance is your choice.

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#6077423 - 12/07/17 10:39 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Trapper7]
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Originally Posted By: Blaine County
Trapper7-that is called Whataboutism......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism


No, it's called the truth; can't be disproved. BTW, Mueller was involved in the sale of our uranium to Russia as well. Some of Mueller's investigative team are former Clinton Foundation lawyers. Really impartial, huh?



You didn't even read the article.
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#6077433 - 12/07/17 10:45 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Bucksnorts]
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Originally Posted By: Trapper7
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FOX is the only news source where you will get balanced news. FOX has liberals and conservatives. I can name a number of liberals on FOX. Name me one conservative on any of the other networks.



Its so weird that you actually believe that. FOX has editorial control over whatever news reader is speaking. It doesn't matter if they pretend Shepard Smith is a liberal. He is muzzled.

I currently have 9 different news apps on my phone (including FOX). I try to scan/read them all each one day. I challenge you to do the same whether on a phone or on your computer. If you only seek FOX for your info and reject everything else, then well, ignorance is your choice.


Still waiting to hear the names of a conservative with biased NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC? Here some names of liberals on FOX, Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera, Alan Coombs was, until he died, Kirsten Powers, former democrat Senator Bye, contributors from the Washington Post, and NY Times. Guess you've never watch Sunday morning with Chris Wallace. His 4 person panel always has a minimum of 2 liberals on it.
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#6077459 - 12/07/17 11:02 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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CNN also feigns being balanced. Don Lemon (for example and who is an Obama disciple), has conservatives on his show every night. Lemon does most of the talking, cuts them off, bullies them, asks leading questions, etc. The inverse is true on Fox.

Wake up. You have succumbed to the Fox mind control.
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#6077474 - 12/07/17 11:14 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: Blaine County
CNN also feigns being balanced. Don Lemon (for example and who is an Obama disciple), has conservatives on his show every night. Lemon does most of the talking, cuts them off, bullies them, asks leading questions, etc. The inverse is true on Fox.

Wake up. You have succumbed to the Fox mind control.


Not true. You obviously have never watched Chris Wallace on Sunday mornings. He lets the liberals have their opinions and never cuts them off. Juan Williams is a strong liberal who has nothing but praise for Obama, but has disdain for anybody conservative. He's a regular on FOX. Still waiting for names of regulars on any of these stations like FOX has, not guests.
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#6077487 - 12/07/17 11:23 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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How about we recognize Jerusalem as the capitol but we stop sending foreign aid.

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#6077495 - 12/07/17 11:31 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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How about we stop sending foreign aid to all countries until we take care of the 50 million people living in poverty in our own country first? To include stop bringing in immigrants who are given all this free stuff while our poor struggle to make a living.
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#6077521 - 12/07/17 11:56 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Bucksnorts]
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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Scuba, quit wasting your time trying to change a liberal's mind. These guys actually believe the Russian collusion thing is real despite the fact that there have been ongoing investigations by every federal investigation and spy organization in the government for over a year, millions of taxpayer dollars wasted, special investigatory committees formed, a special prosecutor appointed...liberal newspapers doing their own investigations, they even paid a former spy to put together a fake dossier. And don't forget the liberal media hammering the collusion message over and over and over again in their attempt to complete their brainwashing of America.

All that and not one shred of evidence to date.

And not one liberal conspiracy theorist has ever been able to give a good answer to the common sense question; why would the Russians want Trump in the Whitehouse instead of Clinton?



Mueller was appointed on May 17, 2017.

In case math is a struggle. December-May = 7 month investigation.


Math is not a struggle for me. Yes, Mueller was appointed less than a year ago but the investigations, the innuendo, the flat-out bullcrap lies told and retold by the liberal media all started within a few days, a week or so at the most, after Trump won the election on November 8, 2016. That was more than a year ago.

Care to take a stab at why the Russians would want Trump in office rather than Clinton?
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#6077605 - 12/07/17 01:12 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Here's your collusion Blaine c.......

Hitler bought the DNC last spring.
The Dnc paid a law firm, which payed a Brit, who paid a Russian to write-up a report about Trump. (money laundering at its finest)
They leaked this report last summer, yes a year and a half ago.

so far, nothing on Trump.

All, I'll say it again, ALL the lawyers Mueller hired are Hitler donors/lovers/snowflakes.

The one for the FBI who interviewed her, without putting her under oath is now a paper pusher because of his pro Hitler comments also was her and the DNC'S lawyer in the past. ( i forgot, he also changed the wording on Commies speach clearing Hitler for her e-mail bungle, which was written before they even interviewed her) crazy

I could go on, but like Lugnut said, ya'll ain't worth the time.


Edited by hippie (12/07/17 01:14 PM)

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#6077611 - 12/07/17 01:18 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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There's a congressional hearing today, trying to find out if this fake report is what they used to get unmask Trump in their wiretaps. The FBI is fighting releasing this for some reason? Their not bias and all, lol.

You won't see this on fake news.

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#6077632 - 12/07/17 01:48 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Trapper7]
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I come here for the comments like this.

Originally Posted By: Trapper7


FOX is the only news source where you will get balanced news....
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#6077639 - 12/07/17 01:54 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Some members here may not realize how plea deals work. Federal prosecutors offered the deals to Flynn and Popodopolous and are working UP the chain of command in exchange for incriminating information

Mueller has flipped Flynn who is now fully cooperating (or would be federal prison for years), Manafort facing big time charges, Popodapolous flipped and cooperating.

Kushner, Don Jr., Pence. Who's next?

Originally Posted By: Blaine County

....but the Mueller noose appears to be tightening.
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#6077646 - 12/07/17 01:59 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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...or Mueller is destroying anyone he can that's associated with Trump. Just like a good leftist does. I bet if you were a Trump surrogate Lebowski, he would find something to pin on you. That's what leftist have always done, destroy their political enemies no matter what the cost.

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#6077651 - 12/07/17 02:02 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Art S]
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Originally Posted By: Art S
Never said Frankfurt was a capitol,after WW2 Germany was
split into zones of occupation,East Germany was the Soviet zone,
West Germany had 3 zones of occupation,the U.S. decided to put their embassy
in their zone,France and The U.K. put theirs in Bonn the capitol.


Thanks for the heads up Art
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#6077652 - 12/07/17 02:05 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: lebowski]
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Originally Posted By: lebowski
Some members here may not realize how plea deals work. Federal prosecutors offered the deals to Flynn and Popodopolous and are working UP the chain of command in exchange for incriminating information

Mueller has flipped Flynn who is now fully cooperating (or would be federal prison for years), Manafort facing big time charges, Popodapolous flipped and cooperating.

Kushner, Don Jr., Pence. Who's next?

Originally Posted By: Blaine County

....but the Mueller noose appears to be tightening.


And your too liberal to see that this has nothing to do with Russia, and to boot, finn was charged for lying about something that isn't against the law.
Why? I don't know, sounds like it was the hitler snowflake trickery.

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#6077653 - 12/07/17 02:06 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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And to answer your question about who's next?

Democrats!

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#6077660 - 12/07/17 02:10 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: hippie]
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You are incorrect. He plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001(a)(2) regarding his contacts with the former Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak.

He took the deal to avoid more serious charges. The now "Fully cooperating" part is what Trump et all should be afraid of...

https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents

Originally Posted By: hippie
... finn was charged for lying about something that isn't against the law.
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#6077662 - 12/07/17 02:14 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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No, i'm correct, it was legal for him to talk to them.

If what your saying is correct, they should arrest him for talking to them.


Edited by hippie (12/07/17 02:17 PM)

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#6077664 - 12/07/17 02:15 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: hippie]
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Here's your collusion Blaine c.......

Hitler bought the DNC last spring.
The Dnc paid a law firm, which payed a Brit, who paid a Russian to write-up a report about Trump. (money laundering at its finest)
They leaked this report last summer, yes a year and a half ago.

so far, nothing on Trump.

All, I'll say it again, ALL the lawyers Mueller hired are Hitler donors/lovers/snowflakes.

The one for the FBI who interviewed her, without putting her under oath is now a paper pusher because of his pro Hitler comments also was her and the DNC'S lawyer in the past. ( i forgot, he also changed the wording on Commies speach clearing Hitler for her e-mail bungle, which was written before they even interviewed her) crazy

I could go on, but like Lugnut said, ya'll ain't worth the time.

Don't have anything to say about this do ya?
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#6077670 - 12/07/17 02:25 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Some of you guys are really really really obsessed with Hillary...jeeze....

I thought this was about moving an embassy and recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol and the reaction from stake holder.

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#6077676 - 12/07/17 02:32 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Start down page 2 and see that the snowflakes started the crap.
Police your own.

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#6077681 - 12/07/17 02:38 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: hippie]
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Start down page 2 and see that the snowflakes started the crap.
Police your own.


Sorry someone triggered you lol

I don't know who'e more butthurt....Libs that are mad the Trump won or Trump supporters that are mad that libs are mad that Trump won....

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#6077684 - 12/07/17 02:41 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Triggered?
That happened along time ago, lol.
I don't like liberals, won't pretend to and don't know why they are even on a site like this when their vote could limit our freedoms to do this.

Glad you saw they musta been triggered and brought something other than the original topic on here.

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#6077691 - 12/07/17 02:51 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: lebowski]
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Originally Posted By: lebowski
Some members here may not realize how plea deals work. Federal prosecutors offered the deals to Flynn and Popodopolous and are working UP the chain of command in exchange for incriminating information

Mueller has flipped Flynn who is now fully cooperating (or would be federal prison for years), Manafort facing big time charges, Popodapolous flipped and cooperating.

Kushner, Don Jr., Pence. Who's next?

Originally Posted By: Blaine County

....but the Mueller noose appears to be tightening.


Yep. I deal with these types of matter for a living. There is enough smoke here to bet there is a fire. If not the Russian fire, the Trump minions will likely continue to be charged for getting cute with the feds during the investigation.
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#6077698 - 12/07/17 02:55 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: hippie]
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Here's your collusion Blaine c.......

Hitler bought the DNC last spring.
The Dnc paid a law firm, which payed a Brit, who paid a Russian to write-up a report about Trump. (money laundering at its finest)
They leaked this report last summer, yes a year and a half ago.

so far, nothing on Trump.

All, I'll say it again, ALL the lawyers Mueller hired are Hitler donors/lovers/snowflakes.

The one for the FBI who interviewed her, without putting her under oath is now a paper pusher because of his pro Hitler comments also was her and the DNC'S lawyer in the past. ( i forgot, he also changed the wording on Commies speach clearing Hitler for her e-mail bungle, which was written before they even interviewed her) crazy

I could go on, but like Lugnut said, ya'll ain't worth the time.

Don't have anything to say about this do ya?
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I didn't know you had me on a timer. I am at work so that I can, unfortunately, pay my taxes. Those taxes are needed to buy moving boxes for the U.S. Embassy in Israel.

As for your post, I have something to say: it makes no sense. Please slow down and write it again.

P.S. I do appreciate the tax cut if it happens.
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#6077700 - 12/07/17 02:57 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: hippie]
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Triggered?
That happened along time ago, lol.
I don't like liberals, won't pretend to and don't know why they are even on a site like this when their vote could limit our freedoms to do this.

Glad you saw they musta been triggered and brought something other than the original topic on here.


It's funny how some of you guys assume anyone who thinks Trump is a liability to this country is a liberal (or libtard).
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#6077718 - 12/07/17 03:13 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Triggered?
That happened along time ago, lol.
I don't like liberals, won't pretend to and don't know why they are even on a site like this when their vote could limit our freedoms to do this.

Glad you saw they musta been triggered and brought something other than the original topic on here.


It's funny how some of you guys assume anyone who thinks Trump is a liability to this country is a liberal (or libtard).


I think he's just an undercover liberal....a DNC mole or saboteur.



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#6077737 - 12/07/17 03:40 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Triggered?
That happened along time ago, lol.
I don't like liberals, won't pretend to and don't know why they are even on a site like this when their vote could limit our freedoms to do this.

Glad you saw they musta been triggered and brought something other than the original topic on here.


It's funny how some of you guys assume anyone who thinks Trump is a liability to this country is a liberal (or libtard).


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#6077747 - 12/07/17 03:50 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Who cares where they move It too.
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#6077754 - 12/07/17 04:00 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Triggered?
That happened along time ago, lol.
I don't like liberals, won't pretend to and don't know why they are even on a site like this when their vote could limit our freedoms to do this.

Glad you saw they musta been triggered and brought something other than the original topic on here.


It's funny how some of you guys assume anyone who thinks Trump is a liability to this country is a liberal (or libtard).
how is trump a worse liability to this country then what we had before him? My problem is people should be thankfull for what we got. It could be worse.

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#6077781 - 12/07/17 04:35 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Being better than Obama and Hillary Clinton is not the measure of a good president. That's like saying the tallest midget is a giant.

I think Obama was a disaster and I think Hillary Clinton would have been a disaster. With that being said, Trump is his own kind of disaster.

I will however give credit where due. Trump has proven that our country does not really need a functioning President.
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#6077792 - 12/07/17 04:45 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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This one's sliding off the rails a bit...


Edited by bleeohio (12/07/17 04:46 PM)
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#6077815 - 12/07/17 05:04 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Being better than Obama and Hillary Clinton is not the measure of a good president. That's like saying the tallest midget is a giant.

I think Obama was a disaster and I think Hillary Clinton would have been a disaster. With that being said, Trump is his own kind of disaster.

I will however give credit where due. Trump has proven that our country does not really need a functioning President.


If a President fulfilling one campaign promise after another, offering unprecedented support for 2A, promoting patriotism and American exceptionalism is your idea of non-functioning, then...okay, we agree.
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#6077827 - 12/07/17 05:12 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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American exceptionalism?

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#6077834 - 12/07/17 05:15 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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What has Trump done that has affected some of you so drastically. Please enlighten me, and don't say he said something stupid cause that would put you in the same boat.

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#6077839 - 12/07/17 05:18 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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#6077843 - 12/07/17 05:22 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Rat Masterson]
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What has Trump done that has affected some of you so drastically. Please enlighten me, and don't say he said something stupid cause that would put you in the same boat.



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How about being indebted to a foreign government at the very least, Voted republican not this clown! Most corrupt president in the history of this GREAT NATION !
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#6077854 - 12/07/17 05:33 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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That's stupid, how is he indebted to a foreign gov. Some of you guys must be geniuses the way you talk about others intelligence, or your billionaires.

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#6077857 - 12/07/17 05:36 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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You must live under a rock! Unless this country comes under dictatorship rules he will be impeached . Should be put in Guantanamo prison.
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#6077886 - 12/07/17 05:53 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Predatorfever32]
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American exceptionalism?


Do you need a definition?
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#6077891 - 12/07/17 05:54 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Sounds like some collectivism lugnut

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#6077894 - 12/07/17 05:54 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: kickingbird]
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You must live under a rock! Unless this country comes under dictatorship rules he will be impeached . Should be put in Guantanamo prison.


You are delusional.
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#6077902 - 12/07/17 05:58 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: kickingbird]
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You must live under a rock! Unless this country comes under dictatorship rules he will be impeached . Should be put in Guantanamo prison.



Oh boy...I don't like Trump but I don't even believe that.


Let's steer this back around.

How much do you think "donors" have given to make this happen?

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#6077903 - 12/07/17 06:00 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Predatorfever32]
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Sounds like some collectivism lugnut


Collectivism and exceptionalism are antonyms.
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#6077910 - 12/07/17 06:05 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Lugnut]
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Collectivism and exceptionalism are antonyms.


Nahhh, antonyms are way smaller then that. crazy
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#6077918 - 12/07/17 06:10 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Lugnut]
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Originally Posted By: Predatorfever32
Sounds like some collectivism lugnut


Collectivism and exceptionalism are antonyms.
when you say American do you mean the people or the state

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#6077933 - 12/07/17 06:24 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Lugnut]
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Originally Posted By: kickingbird
You must live under a rock! Unless this country comes under dictatorship rules he will be impeached . Should be put in Guantanamo prison.


You are delusional.


When you belong to a cult every thing is fake unless the leader says so.
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#6077946 - 12/07/17 06:31 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Yes the left is looking for anything to impeach president Trump. Their latest attempt was denied.
Dictatorship was Obamas legacy. Obama and his admin all need to be in gitmo. Obama wasn't any good for Israel. President Trump has done more for Israel in less than 1 yr than Obama did in 8 yrs.
Back to the op, why hasn't any other country place their embassy in Jerusalem?

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#6077950 - 12/07/17 06:34 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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So Trump's kinda like a Manchurian Candidate. Glad we got that cleared up.

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#6077957 - 12/07/17 06:39 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Rat Masterson]
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Yes, according to the left, Trump is a Manchurian Candidate.
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#6077963 - 12/07/17 06:42 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Predatorfever32]
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Sounds like some collectivism lugnut


Collectivism and exceptionalism are antonyms.


Originally Posted By: Predatorfever32
when you say American do you mean the people or the state


Both, now go ahead and argue that my inclusion of the nation makes exceptionalism like collectivism.
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#6077964 - 12/07/17 06:44 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: adam m]
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Yes the left is looking for anything to impeach president Trump. Their latest attempt was denied.
Dictatorship was Obamas legacy. Obama and his admin all need to be in gitmo. Obama wasn't any good for Israel. President Trump has done more for Israel in less than 1 yr than Obama did in 8 yrs.
Back to the op, why hasn't any other country place their embassy in Jerusalem?


Who cares what Obama did or did not do for Israel?

Oh yeah, we don't imprison people because we disagree with their jacked up politics.
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#6077980 - 12/07/17 06:56 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Well yes if your lumping everybody in America together to form a collective group.

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#6077988 - 12/07/17 07:04 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Predatorfever32]
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collectivism. noun. The practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.

exceptionalism. noun. The condition of being exceptional or unique. The theory or belief that something, especially a nation, does not conform to a pattern or norm.

Like I said, antonyms.
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#6078026 - 12/07/17 07:25 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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#6078078 - 12/07/17 07:54 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I guess it's a free-for all now; weren't we talking about Jerusalem?
Oh well, anyway, as long as we're all ranting, I'd like to interject an issue that puzzles me.
I quite frequently hear Trump haters equate him with Hitler.
Let's see: Hitler was a vegetarian, socialist, animal rights supporter, an anti Semite, and a fascist. So remind me again; how is Trump similar to Hitler?
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#6078098 - 12/07/17 08:09 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: waggler]
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I quite frequently hear Trump haters equate him with Hitler.
Let's see: Hitler was a vegetarian, socialist, animal rights supporter, an anti Semite, and a fascist. So remind me again; how is Trump similar to Hitler?


And boy do I love to remind them of that.


Edited by Tweed (12/07/17 08:10 PM)

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#6078100 - 12/07/17 08:10 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: waggler]
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I guess it's a free-for all now; weren't we talking about Jerusalem?
Oh well, anyway, as long as we're all ranting, I'd like to interject an issue that puzzles me.
I quite frequently hear Trump haters equate him with Hitler.
Let's see: Hitler was a vegetarian, socialist, animal rights supporter, an anti Semite, and a fascist. So remind me again; how is Trump similar to Hitler?


I don't compare Trump to Hitler. A lot of Germans supported Hitler. As of today, only 32% of Americans support Trump.

Seriously, equating Trump and Hitler doesn't make much sense.
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#6078106 - 12/07/17 08:17 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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And all the polls had it a lock for Hillary. I don't put much stock in them.

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#6078116 - 12/07/17 08:25 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Trumps use of tariffs is more protectionist than true free market capitalism. He seems to have a couple things in common with Alexander Hamilton and the early Federalist Party.

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#6078149 - 12/07/17 09:02 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Blaine County]
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Originally Posted By: waggler
I guess it's a free-for all now; weren't we talking about Jerusalem?
Oh well, anyway, as long as we're all ranting, I'd like to interject an issue that puzzles me.
I quite frequently hear Trump haters equate him with Hitler.
Let's see: Hitler was a vegetarian, socialist, animal rights supporter, an anti Semite, and a fascist. So remind me again; how is Trump similar to Hitler?


I don't compare Trump to Hitler. A lot of Germans supported Hitler. As of today, only 32% of Americans support Trump.

Seriously, equating Trump and Hitler doesn't make much sense.


And Hillary had over a 90% chance of winning right up to Election Day!!! According to the polls. Lololololololol And thank you for telling us who you didn't vote for. Why is that necessary? Guilt?


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#6078152 - 12/07/17 09:05 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: The Beav]
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Who cares where they move It too.


Exactly.

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#6078162 - 12/07/17 09:11 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: kickingbird]
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Originally Posted By: Rat Masterson
What has Trump done that has affected some of you so drastically. Please enlighten me, and don't say he said something stupid cause that would put you in the same boat.



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How about being indebted to a foreign government at the very least, Voted republican not this clown! Most corrupt president in the history of this GREAT NATION !


Most corrupt?

The Orange one ain't no saint. But he doesn't hold a candle to Clinton corruption. The mafia could learn a thing or two from Bill and Hillary. They're absolute scum.

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#6078208 - 12/07/17 09:50 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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The Arabian factions worked with Hitler before and during WW2.

They were trying to kill off as many Jewish people then. So nothing has changed. Or ever will.

After 1948 the U.N., had a resolution put forth by someone on making Israel its own country.

Prior to that the Jewish people were spread far and wide.

Look up the movie Exodus. It will explain a lot.

Its history about a boat with that name and the struggle to get away from the British hold on the Jews.
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#6078209 - 12/07/17 09:51 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Jerusalem has a lot of things it makes and sells. Mostly they are self providing.

They make a lot of the Pharmaceuticals in the world. Plus Uzis, Desert Eagles etc.
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#6078219 - 12/07/17 10:06 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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This thread has liberals coming outa the woodwork . What gives ?
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#6078232 - 12/07/17 10:28 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: AntiGov]
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This thread has liberals coming outa the woodwork . What gives ?
. So criticism of trump makes you a liberal?

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#6078246 - 12/07/17 10:50 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Predatorfever32]
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
This thread has liberals coming outa the woodwork . What gives ?
. So criticism of trump makes you a liberal?



No, being a liberal makes you criticize Trump
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#6078248 - 12/07/17 10:50 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Criticism with no facts is a liberals go to move.

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#6078326 - 12/08/17 05:08 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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#6078336 - 12/08/17 05:21 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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So is Jewish/Christian control of Jeruselem permenent or is it going to change again? In the past whenever control was wrested from the muslims it was seen as fulfilment of prophecy. Is it the christian thing to do to kill all Islamists? Jihad is after all the stated goal of Islam. A world run by the religion of Islam through force. When laws are passed by Christians based on their beliefs, like imprisoning homosexuals at the point of a gun, ( yes no longer being done) is that ok? The religions of all humans are constantly in flux. The leaders of religious beliefs meanwhile all insist that isnt true. If people weren't being killed over all this superstitious nonsense it would be hilarious.
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#6078393 - 12/08/17 06:41 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Idk antigov I always thought trump was more of a populist than a conservative. I listen to Ben Shapiro and Ron Paul and they both criticize trump, are they liberals?

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#6078416 - 12/08/17 07:11 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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They're going to say what their local population wants to hear...job security.
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#6078420 - 12/08/17 07:14 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Ben Shapiro...born in LA, educated at univ of Cali, and Harvard, is a lawyer. Hmmmmm, why would he like Trump?
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#6078422 - 12/08/17 07:17 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Ron Paul was a career politician in Congress from 1976-2013. Why would he like Trump?
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#6078463 - 12/08/17 08:04 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Why is there anything wrong with criticizing leaders? Would you rather live in a place like NORK or Red China where criticism is squashed? Are some here living vicariously through Trump or something?

Has it ever occurred to anyone that you can both support and criticize someone? I'm sure your wives give you criticism...doesn't mean they don't support you.

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#6078475 - 12/08/17 08:11 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Why is there anything wrong with criticizing leaders? Would you rather live in a place like NORK or Red China where criticism is squashed? Are some here living vicariously through Trump or something?

Has it ever occurred to anyone that you can both support and criticize someone? I'm sure your wives give you criticism...doesn't mean they don't support you.


Nothing is wrong with it. It's just easier for many to be mindless drones and scream "LIBERAL!!!".
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#6078498 - 12/08/17 08:35 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Why is there anything wrong with criticizing leaders? Would you rather live in a place like NORK or Red China where criticism is squashed? Are some here living vicariously through Trump or something?

Has it ever occurred to anyone that you can both support and criticize someone? I'm sure your wives give you criticism...doesn't mean they don't support you.
Nothing wrong with criticism. However when that criticism is based on information that is clearly biased(FBI), cost the taxpayer(you and me) millions of our hard earned dollars, and is only being carried out because the political class candidate didn't win, it tends to get annoying. Never Trumpers and leftist, get over it, y'all lost!

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#6078510 - 12/08/17 08:48 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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I wonder how many anti Trumpers or their spouses work for the Gov. or on the taxpayers dime. They're afraid he's going to take something away.

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#6078539 - 12/08/17 09:23 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Rat Masterson]
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I wonder how many anti Trumpers or their spouses work for the Gov. or on the taxpayers dime. They're afraid he's going to take something away.


Millions
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Why is there anything wrong with criticizing leaders? Would you rather live in a place like NORK or Red China where criticism is squashed? Are some here living vicariously through Trump or something?

Has it ever occurred to anyone that you can both support and criticize someone? I'm sure your wives give you criticism...doesn't mean they don't support you.


The first amendment is fundamental to American freedom.

There are a handful of liberals on this site who are easy to spot because they show up on every thread concerning Trump and/or conservative values and regurgitate the latest talking points they were spoon fed by MSNBC, CNN or some other liberally biased news outlet.

Intelligent, fact-based criticism is welcome, attention-seeking liberal trolls...not so much.
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#6078546 - 12/08/17 09:34 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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One thing I think we can all agree on is that there is no such thing as an honest politician. No matter who they are affiliated with. Left right, up ,down makes not much difference.
You have the real shed ones and then you have the post turtles.
The shrewd ones promise you heaven on earth if you elect them, when they get the job, they spend their working days to figure out how much they can screw you and still get another term out of it.
The post turtles are just that. When you see a post on the road side with a turtle balanced on its top.
You know he didn't get up there by himself
He doesn't belong up there
He doesn't know what to do while he is up there
He is elevated beyond his ability to function and ya wonder what sort of dumb (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) put him up there in the first place.
Now that we have that out of the way, lets get back to the original topic.
If you think that " peace " in the middle east is dependent on what place Israel has as its official seat of government, I have a reasonably priced bridge to sell. And some farm land you can look at every 6 hours
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#6078563 - 12/08/17 09:54 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: AntiGov]
Marty Offline
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Originally Posted By: Rat Masterson
I wonder how many anti Trumpers or their spouses work for the Gov. or on the taxpayers dime. They're afraid he's going to take something away.


Millions


Tens of millions....
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#6078583 - 12/08/17 10:26 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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What if you disagree with liberals and conservatives just as much? What if you don't like trump at all but all the liberals don't like him so your stuck between a rock and a hard place. Trump was much easier to appreciate when Clinton was I the picture. I have a huge problem with him intervening in syria. Something he was against when obama did it.

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#6078586 - 12/08/17 10:33 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
Steven 49er Offline
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I am a supporter of Trump up to date but if some of you think he is a tea party type conservative you are mistaken.


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#6078587 - 12/08/17 10:40 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Tweed]
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
All I want to know is will they be issuing trapping permits after the move?
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#6078636 - 12/08/17 11:43 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Scuba1]
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
One thing I think we can all agree on is that there is no such thing as an honest politician. No matter who they are affiliated with. Left right, up ,down makes not much difference.


Agree with this 1000%.
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#6078650 - 12/08/17 11:59 AM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: Lugnut]
hippie Offline
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Registered: 02/22/10
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Loc: pa
Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Why is there anything wrong with criticizing leaders? Would you rather live in a place like NORK or Red China where criticism is squashed? Are some here living vicariously through Trump or something?

Has it ever occurred to anyone that you can both support and criticize someone? I'm sure your wives give you criticism...doesn't mean they don't support you.


The first amendment is fundamental to American freedom.

There are a handful of liberals on this site who are easy to spot because they show up on every thread concerning Trump and/or conservative values and regurgitate the latest talking points they were spoon fed by MSNBC, CNN or some other liberally biased news outlet.

Intelligent, fact-based criticism is welcome, attention-seeking liberal trolls...not so much.


Very very easy to spot now that Trump won. They start crying on any thread even close to being something good about Trump.

He has kept more campaign promises than the last 2 presidents already and he hasn't been in a year yet. Ones good for hunting and trapping also.

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#6078702 - 12/08/17 12:46 PM Re: American Embassy Move? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
Gary Benson Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
All I want to know is will they be issuing trapping permits after the move?

What is there to be had in Jerusalem, other than beaver?:
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