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#6076998 - 12/06/17 10:20 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
Bogmaster Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2838
Loc: Lakeland,Minnesota
Otterman,Do you work for nothing? I doubt it.
Why should I,Paul,or any other lure maker work for nothing?
My guess is--you think fur buyers should work for nothing,those of us that sell trapping supplies should also work for nothing.So you can make a profit?
Tom
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#6077223 - 12/07/17 07:32 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
Chautauqua Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/03/17
Posts: 8
Loc: Chautauqua NY
I was thinking an increase would be $6.50. I didn't expect to hear $7.50-8.00. I understand though. When will we start to hear about the increases?

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#6077238 - 12/07/17 07:50 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
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"Twerker"

Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 8672
Loc: potter co. p.a.
makes my move to bid 2 lure packages in the auction actually seem smart but i aint about to try and explain it to my wife.
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#6077311 - 12/07/17 08:51 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
Adam Potaczek Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/23/10
Posts: 341
Loc: Bloomer, WI
I have said it before and will say it again lure is the cheapest investment a trapper can make. If a few rats pays for 1oz of lure thats a pretty good deal now you have enough lure yet to catch over 50 plus rats depending on how much you use. I bet the guys catching 75-100 dollar western coyotes don't worry about the cost of a lure.
The cost of production as already stated is higher in every way. A person has to make a living. Adam

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#6077316 - 12/07/17 08:53 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
red mt Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/15/14
Posts: 2591
Loc: montana
Bait lure and traps ,are the cheapest part of of trapping cost wise imo
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#6077333 - 12/07/17 09:07 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
PB Samad Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 86
Loc: Southwest Ohio
Short supply, prices go up. The thing is they never seem to go back down when the supply is strong again. Lol whistle

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#6077409 - 12/07/17 10:20 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
otterman53 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 165
Loc: Sabine County,Texas
PB Samad you hit the nail on the head. I would be fine with a slight increase in price if suppliers would be willing to go with free shipping. If I order only one or two bottels of lure the shipping charges is almost 10.00 when the actual cost to ship it is probably less than half that.

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#6077429 - 12/07/17 10:43 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
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trapper

Registered: 11/16/15
Posts: 151
Loc: Utah
it is a free market. I say sell them for what you feel they are worth. The lure makers time and expertise has probably been undersold for years. If someone overcharges, the market will correct them. I for one appreciate the Paul and the other lure makers and their expertise. I don't have the time nor inclination to make it myself. We trappers need them and I will pay them for their time and talent.

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#6077462 - 12/07/17 11:06 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
Bogmaster Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2838
Loc: Lakeland,Minnesota
Small flat rate box is $7.15 to mail.If that doesn't fit the need I have special heavy duty boxes for mailing lure(and they aren't free to me.The box weighs 4 ounces,a 10z bottle of Woodchipper weighs 4 ounces, mailing that 8 ounce box to my neighbor would cost $6.65.
Postage rates must be cheaper in Texas.
Tom
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#6077508 - 12/07/17 11:44 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
Sawmill Creek Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/27/16
Posts: 233
Loc: Little Valley, NY
I ship everything using Regional A & B boxes from USPS. The cheapest shipping is just under $7 postage. That don't include my time, packing materials, tape, ink to print label, paper for the printer, etc. If I ship close to the west coast or the southwest I lose money on the shipping alone.


Edited by Sawmill Creek (12/07/17 11:45 AM)

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#6077519 - 12/07/17 11:55 AM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
SNIPERBBB Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 7001
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
If you want to save money on shipping, contact the supplier and ask them how much they can fit in a flat rate box. Stock up on your favorites and make money on the inflation.

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#6077529 - 12/07/17 12:08 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
DaYooper14 Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/03/16
Posts: 409
Loc: North Carolina
Since we've had a few weigh-ins, whats one more...
Don't price your product for one increase, price it for the next increase. $8 is more than fine for a reputable & proven lure.
I was frankly surprised to see the prices of lure be an industry-wide, more or less, standard. I would expect those proven & reputable to cost more than an entry,less known or less effective lure.
You get what you pay for in my eyes. Pay a premium for a premium product is business as usual elsewhere. Heck there are businesses that charge a premium for a substandard or average product and stay at the top just because of the illusion of quality.
I'll end the rant with - don't be breaking even and be a going-concern, I like your stuff too much, I'll still be buying at a higher price.


Edited by DaYooper14 (12/07/17 12:09 PM)
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#6077536 - 12/07/17 12:13 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
OkieChoctaw Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/25/17
Posts: 27
Loc: Oklahoma
I don't see a problem with a raise in prices. But trapping for me is more of a hobby than a money making opportunity. A fisherman has to spend hundreds, if not thousands on rods, reels and lures. Plus $30k for a boat. Hunters $1000 for a rifle, then stands, blinds, game cams, camo.
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#6077538 - 12/07/17 12:14 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
krispcritter Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/23/17
Posts: 103
Loc: Chautauqua County, New York
Ammo skyrocketed in price, selection was nill, but we all bought it anyway. Now ammo is abundant again for the most part, price is still up and we keep buying it. If you have to increase lure cost, then we will pay it.

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#6077548 - 12/07/17 12:22 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: krispcritter]
Ice_Rat Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/05/12
Posts: 1729
Loc: WI
Originally Posted By: krispcritter
Ammo skyrocketed in price, selection was nill, but we all bought it anyway. Now ammo is abundant again for the most part, price is still up and we keep buying it. If you have to increase lure cost, then we will pay it.


Not all of us fell for that bs. Ammo prices aren't anywhere near what they were when the gouging was going on.

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#6077549 - 12/07/17 12:25 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
tbn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 4375
Loc: ks-ok-mo
I stocked up before hand. Anway,back to bait and lure,is their experience suppose to be free? Very few in the scheme of things can formulate good stuff.
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#6077557 - 12/07/17 12:31 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
Paul Dobbins Offline
"Trapperman custodian"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 10719
Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
As for shipping, I've been charging actual shipping for the past six months. I will cintinue doing this.

As for the price of ingredients going down, I have yet to see this happen in the past 20 years. They have gone nowhere but up. If they ever do go down, I'd look at deceasing my lure prices.
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#6077560 - 12/07/17 12:33 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
krispcritter Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/23/17
Posts: 103
Loc: Chautauqua County, New York
I agree, they are providing us with a service, a great service and I will pay for a good product no matter what it is. We own a restaurant and used to cater. People wanted it for next to nothing so no more catering. We could not keep doing it for cost. If $8 is where they need to be then ok, $8 it is.

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#6077561 - 12/07/17 12:34 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Chautauqua]
SNIPERBBB Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 7001
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
People are generally cheap. If one product is .50 cheaper than the next... people will buy the cheapest unless marketing and previous experience can show that it's worth it to buy the more expensive product.

Just look at all the trap debates.

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#6077594 - 12/07/17 01:01 PM Re: Lure prices? [Re: Paul Dobbins]
PB Samad Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 86
Loc: Southwest Ohio
Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins


As for the price of ingredients going down, I have yet to see this happen in the past 20 years. They have gone nowhere but up.



My point exactly.

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