PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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If anyone here hears of a PA yote that was shot in a trap close to the OH line there is a guy on archery talk that did it. Just did it today.
lutzweiser's Avatar lutzweiser lutzweiser is online now Registered User Join Date Dec 2010 Location Negley OH Posts 700 So driving home from work today I get near the PA/OH line and notice a coyote out in the field. I slow down and see it is stuck in a trap. Now I hate coyotes as much as the next guy but I hate traps even more. I hate seeing anything suffer, and this thing was pulling its tail off trying to get out of the trap. So I cross over into Ohio and go home to get my bow. Come back over to PA and walk 200 yds down into a POSTED field and put an arrow through this thing. So I’m sure I broke a few laws but I don’t really care, I hate seeing anything suffer. Was I right or wrong?
If someone could make the pgac aware as well because i dont believe the guy has a pa license either. Lets band together and let it be know we do not need this kind of "help"!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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which forum within archery talk?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Good luck getting a Game and Fish officer to go through all the work of serving search warrants on an online forum for user data to include the IP addresses of the user, and then serving another on the Internet Service Provider to identify the user account holder information of that poster, and then getting them to go out to talk to the account holder and ascertaining whether or not they did it. Also you need the victim of the case, who's coyote was arrowed, to come forward, otherwise a crime was never committed to even begin investigating. Unless their is suspicion that the perpetrator lacks a license in that state. Either way, lots of work, and hi-tech work, for a game and fish officer.
That said, it would be nice for all those piece's to fall in to place and see someone charged for this sort of thing. People lack brain cells today, and putting an arrow in to a trapped coyote is just ridiculous. Also I'm not sure how that's any more humane of a dispatch then what most trappers do.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Some are giving it to him . He needs to be delete with . He knew he broke the laws . People get in trouble all the time on social media.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Friend of mine traps the line though not all of it. He is well connected with the warden. Is the shooters name on the post?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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rather find a coyote in my trap bow shot than rifle or shotgunned. ought to be salvageable at least
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Can't understand it, just unbelievable all the way around
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Game commission should be contacted. Is the victim a member here? Anyone know?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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If you don't like animals in traps then what are you doing on this forum? He wasn't, he was on a different forum
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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which forum within archery talk? Bowhunter and bowhunting showcases the go to the ohio rut updates thread and it is on page 181
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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rather find a coyote in my trap bow shot than rifle or shotgunned. ought to be salvageable at least Here's what the shooter said on the bottom , probably a 3" expandable . I see he deleted the town "Negley" out of his post now too , just says Ohio .
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Seems odd a bowhunter would have a problem with trapping. Most appreciate coyotes getting thinned out. Probably an anti on a hunting site and made the whole thing up.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Seems odd a bowhunter would have a problem with trapping. I don't know...about 18 years ago, I was checking traps and my dad was along. I'd caught a small bobcat in a coyote set. this was at 8:30 am. as we approached the 'cat, a bowhunter came out of the woods and said it's a good thing we came by when we did, because he was getting ready to "put it out of its misery" with a broadhead. Idjet! there was no open season on cats at the time. Dad and I released it unharmed.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Probably someone that hasn't shot anything all year and had a easy picking shot . Betting we'll hear more about this , news travels fast nowadays with so many people on the Web .
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Crossing State lines to commit a wildlife crime may be a Federal Lacey Act violation. Whether or not you have to take the wildlife back across the State line I'm not sure about.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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He's been reported. To authorities and the moderators of archery talk. Nothing will happen of course but it chaps my hind end. Hopefully something does happen. If it doesn't it's outright ridiculous. He broke alot of laws and bragged about it on a public forum. The proof is already there, all law enforcement has to do is follow up.
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He's been reported. To authorities and the moderators of archery talk. Nothing will happen of course but it chaps my hind end. Hopefully something does happen. If it doesn't it's outright ridiculous. He broke alot of laws and bragged about it on a public forum. The proof is already there, all law enforcement has to do is follow up. Trouble is that he lives in Ohio and this happened in PA. They will probably have to wait until they can get him in the state, if they get off their arses and do anything at all.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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^^^^^^^^ That's the kind of case where the Feds come in. That would make me really worry; the Feds...much worse consequences if they were to pursue the case and prosecute.
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He's been reported. To authorities and the moderators of archery talk. Nothing will happen of course but it chaps my hind end. The Mods at Archery Talk deleted all of the posts.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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He's been reported. To authorities and the moderators of archery talk. Nothing will happen of course but it chaps my hind end. The Mods at Archery Talk deleted all of the posts. Good thing there are screenshots here
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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He's been reported. To authorities and the moderators of archery talk. Nothing will happen of course but it chaps my hind end. Was his real identity figured out or just the forum info?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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I already heard the PGC has the screen shots . Words on the Web travels at light speed .
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Sorry I have not posted much on this. I was hunting when I saw his post and told him he was wrong and then made this thread. Then had some deer come in and shot a doe so I been busy taking care of her. It really chaps my arse that he did what he did and thought it was fine.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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I sure hope they can nail him. Yes that was me that told him he needs to be hammered
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Seems odd a bowhunter would have a problem with trapping... Depends on whether or not he used a crossbow. Mike
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Just seen the post where an admin said there was no harm no foul! So i guess poaching is not a foul unless it is a deer
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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Just seen the post where an admin said there was no harm no foul! So i guess poaching is not a foul unless it is a deer Why did they delete his post if there is no foul then ?
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Just seen the post where an admin said there was no harm no foul! So i guess poaching is not a foul unless it is a deer Why did they delete his post if there is no foul then ? Million dollar question
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Here's his mugshot I found Lives in Columbiana County on Dyke Rd below the dam on Lake Tomahawk. He is the Lead foreman for Honeywell in Fombell PA.
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Here's his mugshot I found Lives in Columbiana County on Dyke Rd below the dam on Lake Tomahawk. He is the Lead foreman for Honeywell in Fombell PA. Gawd, sometimes I just love the internet!! The guy messing with legally set traps in NV not long ago is apparently in hot water. I'm SO glad!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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So walking home from the line today I get near the property line and notice 3 tree stands out in the woods. I slow down and see they are stuck on perfectly good oaks. Now I hate tree stands as much as the next guy but I hate cripple sticks even more. I hate seeing anything suffer, and these things were strangling those trees for 2 years in a row. So I cross over into my place and go home to get my sp-10 . Come back over to the line walk 200 yds down into a POSTED woods and put several super duty copper buffered tri-loads through these things. So I’m sure I broke a few laws but I don’t really care, I hate seeing any live tree suffer. Was I right or wrong?
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So walking home from the line today I get near the property line and notice 3 tree stands out in the woods. I slow down and see they are stuck on perfectly good oaks. Now I hate tree stands as much as the next guy but I hate cripple sticks even more. I hate seeing anything suffer, and these things were strangling those trees for 2 years in a row. So I cross over into my place and go home to get my sp-10 . Come back over to the line walk 200 yds down into a POSTED woods and put several super duty copper buffered tri-loads through these things. So I’m sure I broke a few laws but I don’t really care, I hate seeing any live tree suffer. Was I right or wrong? You both might be in the same jail cell togather.
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Here's his mugshot I found Lives in Columbiana County on Dyke Rd below the dam on Lake Tomahawk. He is the Lead foreman for Honeywell in Fombell PA. Nice work! Get him!
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I had a post that got deleted from the thread. I guess they seem more concerned with keeping the thread on topic of Ohio rut updates. Overly concerned with protecting one their own. Says something about the Mod over there.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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That is bs hopefully we find out who the trapper is and they can get something done
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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i'm gonna assume they are both in trouble if the warden has the trap and no name.no tag at the least.
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I'm so glad I have the ability trap on my family's property, away from varmints like this. This happened on private property
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Just got off the phone with PGC. They now have all the I go that I posted earlier. Sounds like this could get interesting. Lady told me to expect a phone call back soon. Can't wait to hear this!
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Is the trapper who owns the trap a member on here? I was contacted by a PGC officer saying he has the trap and coyote. He is holding them for evidence in this crime. If the Trapper is a member, get with me and I will provide the name and phone number of the officer. It's also been posted over on huntingpa for the person to contact you.
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Wish we could know where exactly this was so we could contact the trapper if he hasn't already been informed all this is happening with the law.
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Maybe the trapper is still checking traps elsewhere, or-thinks it was simply stolen. If it's tagged, maybe he can't be reached-yet?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
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robert.d12
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I hope the DNR told him that it was them that took the trap and to contact them about it.
The beauty of the second amendment is it wont be needed until they try to take it. -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: dublelung]
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12/13/17 02:41 PM
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Glad to hear they may actually do something to him. I'm a regular visitor on Archerytalk but they definitely are about protecting their own with no regard to broken laws. I've been in numerous trapping related posts over there and trust me when I say we're the minority. I am sure we have had posts on the same threads over there. It is like they only care about deer and it is ok to break laws unless it is for deer.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/13/17 02:44 PM
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robert.d12
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With a job like he has I bet we could get a phone # to let him hear our mind if nothing else comes of this
The beauty of the second amendment is it wont be needed until they try to take it. -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: robert.d12]
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12/13/17 02:47 PM
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Wish we could know where exactly this was so we could contact the trapper if he hasn't already been informed all this is happening with the law. Well he lives in ohio. Columbiana county. Dyke road by lake tomohawk. He works in at Honeywell in Fombell PA. Shouldnt be that hard to figure out a general area Lives in Columbiana County on Dyke Rd below the dam on Lake Tomahawk. He is the Lead foreman for Honeywell in Fombell PA.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: robert.d12]
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12/13/17 02:50 PM
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With a job like he has I bet we could get a phone # to let him hear our mind if nothing else comes of this That would be harassment........ I don't think he really cares what trappers think, obviously. He has already made it pretty clear he doesn't care for trapping.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/13/17 02:52 PM
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I just looked it up and looked at travel routes. I am going to make a guess that it happened off of . 251 or 651 or state line road
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Pasadena]
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12/13/17 03:14 PM
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dublelung
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With a job like he has I bet we could get a phone # to let him hear our mind if nothing else comes of this That would be harassment........ I don't think he really cares what trappers think, obviously. He has already made it pretty clear he doesn't care for trapping. He may not care and he may not reply but I pm'd him on AT and told him just how much of a low life piece of feces he was and told him people have been issued pop knots for screwing with legally set traps. Told him a few other things too but I'll leave those out.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: SetNSteel]
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12/13/17 04:18 PM
12/13/17 04:18 PM
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Mike in A-town
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So I just got a phone call from the investigating officer. He told me he found the Trap and coyote and took it as evidence, as Paul stated. He also said that they have a detective in Fombell looking into this guys employment location. As well as a detective in Ohio working on pinpointing his residence. He told me that they have searched and cannot find a license for game issued to anyone in Negley. But without his actual name they can't be 100% certain. He said that he would be in touch very soon as they were going to interview him either at home or work. Sounds like they are working on a warrant for the ISP address from his home and cell phone to nail it down that he did in fact post all this himself, in case he denies any of this This is good news. Can't help to think the fact this occurred while crossing state lines will rack up the dollars in fines. It shouldn't matter dollarwise, but it could provide a little more incentive to investigate and prosecute this scumbag if there is a hefty fine to collect. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/13/17 04:19 PM
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Setnsteel you sir are top notch! I am glad I started this thread as I was in a blind hunting and couldnt have kept up with it as the posts unfolded on AT. Way to go everyone for pulling together and at least getting him a talk from a warden. I do hope it goes further than that and they hammer him just as I told him.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/13/17 04:49 PM
12/13/17 04:49 PM
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Setnsteel you sir are top notch! I am glad I started this thread as I was in a blind hunting and couldnt have kept up with it as the posts unfolded on AT. Way to go everyone for pulling together and at least getting him a talk from a warden. I do hope it goes further than that and they hammer him just as I told him. x2
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/13/17 05:36 PM
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Finster
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I can't believe the PA game commission is actually doing something about it. Two years ago, I found a poached deer with it's head cut off, way after the season while I was trapping beaver. I reported it and never even got a call back from the local warden. Keep us posted!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: SetNSteel]
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12/13/17 05:51 PM
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Just a small part. Sounds like there have been some anonymous calls made since his post. I just felt the need to dig. I'm a better PI than a trapper for sure. Idk why this chapped my behind but it did. Really struck a nerve seeing it snd then seeing his arrogant responses to people. Like it was normal for him. Which......it probably is. I'm hoping he's hung himself enough to have his hunting privileges revoked. That's what I'd like to see. Dollars are good but I feel he needs to lose his hobby for a bit. Just to prove a point. Yes sir it really chapped me too.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
#6084720
12/13/17 06:35 PM
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RiversNorth13
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"IF" this goes down the way it should , it will be wide spread news in today's social media ways .
Maybe others will see the consequences ,"if it does".
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: SetNSteel]
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12/13/17 06:36 PM
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Lugnut
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Thanks for your involvement and your updates Skippyturtle, SetNSteel and everyone else involved.
It's encouraging to here the PGC and local LEO's are investigating this, I hope they nail the guy.
I know WCO's here in PA get a bad rap sometimes but, in their defense, they are severely under-funded and undermanned. There hasn't been an increase in the cost of a hunting license, the commission's primary source of funding, in seventeen years. How many other agencies could survive, let alone do an effective job, with less funding than they were receiving in 1999?
Also, I have had three trapping related instances over the last several years involving trespassing dog-walkers, trap tampering and theft. All three times the PGC went to bat for me and resolved the incidents in my favor.
In my opinion, Pennsylvania Game Commission Wildlife Conservation Officers do the best they can with their extremely limited resources.
You guys that are critical of them, please email or write your legislators and tell them to release their financial stranglehold on the PGC. Let them know we do not want our nearly 1.5 million acres of State Game Lands turned over to the DCNR to provide hiking and biking trails for non hunters. That is their end game.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/13/17 07:23 PM
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I do believe that PA and OH have a reciprocate law. If convicted in one state, loss of a hunting privilege, it also bars him from the other. May states have joined this.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/14/17 08:13 AM
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as a PA trapper i owe you all a great debt of gratitude..proves-don't p=off a trapper or you will be amazed how big his family really is.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/14/17 10:13 AM
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and to any GAME CO.people reading this as i'm sure you are,a huge THANK YOU to each and every one of you.slogan should be "making PA great again"THANK YOU ALL.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: pcr2]
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12/14/17 11:27 AM
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and to any GAME CO.people reading this as i'm sure you are,a huge THANK YOU to each and every one of you.slogan should be "making PA great again"THANK YOU ALL. X2 I would also like to add the Ohio detective and Ohio DNR to the thank you list.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: pcr2]
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12/14/17 11:36 AM
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as a PA trapper i owe you all a great debt of gratitude..proves-don't p=off a trapper or you will be amazed how big his family really is. I absolutely love deer hunting and hunt way more than trap but I hate the mentality of most deer hunters that they are superior to trappers. As soon as I read what he did it set a fire in me and I knew this is the place and people that could nail the jackwagon. That is why I started the post.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/14/17 11:37 AM
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and to any GAME CO.people reading this as i'm sure you are,a huge THANK YOU to each and every one of you.slogan should be "making PA great again"THANK YOU ALL. X2 I would also like to add the Ohio detective and Ohio DNR to the thank you list. . X3
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 12:50 AM
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Dang good job men. I read this whole thread. Can't believe the cat posted it and admitted he knew he broke the law and didn't care. Shows he ain't real bright. An education costs money. And maybe hunting privileges. Its tuff going through life stupid.
Will my toes ever warm up?
I'm Gonna die with my boots on.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 02:22 AM
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I was really hoping to see an update! Y'll know I don't fur trap, but I trap nonetheless. It doesn't matter to me whether you're trapping nuisance wildlife, feral/dangerous dogs, or fur. We ALL deserve to have our legally set equipment, (and any animal contained) untouched, unharmed and unmolested. Most states have something on the books for this, I know mine does. I put the "messing with traps" statute on my trap tags. I hope this guy faces a heaping helping of not so Christmas-y cheer. What a jerk.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 09:07 AM
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Best punishment he could get would be for him to lose all hunting rights....
Typical attention seeking turd, why else would he post it on an open forum....
Great job to all that had a part in getting this info to the law.....
Don't mess with the trapping community, he should have known better....
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Finster]
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12/15/17 11:39 AM
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I can't believe the PA game commission is actually doing something about it. Two years ago, I found a poached deer with it's head cut off, way after the season while I was trapping beaver. I reported it and never even got a call back from the local warden. Keep us posted! Might have been the game commission that took the head, they were doing that a few years ago checking for CWD. I got curious about all the headless deer on route 22 between Pittsburgh and the WV line and called them.
Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: ambush32]
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12/15/17 12:12 PM
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Mike in A-town
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Best punishment he could get would be for him to lose all hunting rights... They may yank his hunting privileges for a period of time. And a lot of times, around here anyway, they will confiscate the weapon(s) used to commit the deed. Don't know how much he has invested in his bow, but if they take it from him it will likely sting a little. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 01:42 PM
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I'm guessing if he is charged with a game violation, most states won't allow you to purchase any hunting licenses do to the game violation....not sure how long this stays on record, but if he hunts out of state like a lot of use do, he just put another nail in his hunting privileges....GOOD FOR HIM!!!!! WE don't need sportsmen like him representing us.....
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: ambush32]
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12/15/17 02:43 PM
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Finster
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I'm guessing if he is charged with a game violation, most states won't allow you to purchase any hunting licenses do to the game violation....not sure how long this stays on record, but if he hunts out of state like a lot of use do, he just put another nail in his hunting privileges....GOOD FOR HIM!!!!! WE don't need sportsmen like him representing us..... I seriously doubt he will lose his hunting privileges. I had the same thing happen to me about 4 years ago. I had a bird hunter blow the head off of a red fox I had caught. The local warden caught him and just gave him a fine. I didn't get reimbursed for the fox or anything.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 02:55 PM
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Betting that this guy doesn't have a PA license. A scoff law DB like that may be a felon and can't handle a firearm. It would explain why he didn't come back with a .22 like a normal do-gooder.
While I don't condone the bird hunter shooting your fox, he likely wasn't trespassing, hunting without a license or a guy with a record.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 03:39 PM
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has anyone else questioned why he shot the thing with his bow rather than a .22 to the head to keep it from "suffering?" He had to drive all the way back to his house to get a weapon, and he chooses a bow over a gun?
Happy Trapping . . .
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: bur]
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12/15/17 04:09 PM
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has anyone else questioned why he shot the thing with his bow rather than a .22 to the head to keep it from "suffering?" He had to drive all the way back to his house to get a weapon, and he chooses a bow over a gun? Who knows why he drove back home. He was dumb enough to admit it so he isn't the brightest bulb. Dumb people do dumb things. I hope they give it to him.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/15/17 04:20 PM
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rather find a coyote in my trap bow shot than rifle or shotgunned. ought to be salvageable at least Not with a rage 2" blade if he's a deer hunter. Hes a Jerk and bragging about it makes me and all of you madder.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 04:31 PM
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I believe his comment was "No sewing that up, you could throw a football through it".
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 04:40 PM
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The only good news is that with the Interstate Wildlife Violation Compact 47 states will not issue a license if his is revoked for the violation.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/15/17 05:07 PM
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I think is awesome that some of you guys put some time into this and the violator is being looked for. Great job looking out for your fellow trappers!
But I will say that some people here were ready to draw and quarter me when I posted a similar situation just last year that I was in. A kid(bow hunting) shot a bobcat in my trap with a .45(found the brass) and I found him down in the woods and called him out on it.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: bur]
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12/15/17 05:49 PM
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has anyone else questioned why he shot the thing with his bow rather than a .22 to the head to keep it from "suffering?" He had to drive all the way back to his house to get a weapon, and he chooses a bow over a gun? m My opinion is that he did it with a bow to ruin the fur because as he stated he hate traps. If he hates traps it is only logical to think that he also hates the people who do and the selling of fur.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: bur]
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12/15/17 08:01 PM
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has anyone else questioned why he shot the thing with his bow rather than a .22 to the head to keep it from "suffering?" He had to drive all the way back to his house to get a weapon, and he chooses a bow over a gun? It doesn't matter what he shot it with. It wasn't his trap, it wasn't his coyote, it had nothing to do with him and the animal wasn't suffering. It was simply caught in a trap. For all he knew the coyote could have been released unharmed. How does he know the trapper wasn't targeting fox etc!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/18/17 05:27 PM
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Anybody hear anything more about what he will face for violations?
The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/18/17 05:38 PM
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Still haven't gotten a call back from the CO. Would think they would've gotten something figured out by now.
Last edited by SetNSteel; 12/18/17 05:38 PM.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/18/17 05:43 PM
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You may not hear anything until the case is actually adjudicated.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
#6090918
12/18/17 06:19 PM
12/18/17 06:19 PM
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The day it's made public it will be on every hunting and outdoor social media site there is , word travels like wildfire, just like it did that day he committed the vilations.
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: robert.d12]
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12/19/17 10:21 AM
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awesome update! X2 glad he is getting what he has coming Not quite the attention he was looking for
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 10:23 AM
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.THANK YOU EVERYBODY,that took this and ran with it befopre i even had a chance.knowing the game co. well i'm shocked at the speed this happened.hats off to them also and you have made me proud on a national level.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 10:33 AM
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And that boys and girls, is a job well done by all parties....sans lutzweiser.
-- It seems all of Greece knows what is the right thing to do, but it is only the Spartans that do anything about it. --
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
#6091779
12/19/17 01:18 PM
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Maybe I'll go send him another pm on Archery Talk and ask him how his season is going? Would be extra nice if they made him pay the trapper for the wasted coyote. Did anyone ever determine if the trapper is a member here? I suppose not since we haven't heard from him.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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12/19/17 01:24 PM
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I received an email from the officer about this case. Here's what he wrote.
Citations have been filed against the subject. I won’t go into specific detail, but there are multiple charges including the unlawful killing of game or wildlife. As stated earlier, the trapper was located and his trap was returned. The coyote will be retained as evidence and will not likely be given back to the trapper due to the severe damage caused by the broadhead. Good news! Sure hope to hear how this shakes out.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
#6091798
12/19/17 01:42 PM
12/19/17 01:42 PM
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OK, I missed something here. When did Paul get involved in this to get that email from the Game commission??? Secondly, I would think the charges would be public domain if someone knows where to look?
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 02:03 PM
12/19/17 02:03 PM
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They looked at this site to put their case together along with the archery site . Things didn't get deleted here ,like on the archery site ! Paul by being the site owner was probably informed then . It will be on open record when it's all done .
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 02:20 PM
12/19/17 02:20 PM
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Been watching this. Good job to all involved
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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12/19/17 02:26 PM
12/19/17 02:26 PM
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Outstanding news Paul!
Thanks for the update!
The good lord has blessed me with the ability to trap. I trap to honor him and those who lived the explorer/trader/trapper life that I cannot.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Finster]
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12/19/17 02:55 PM
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OK, I missed something here. When did Paul get involved in this to get that email from the Game commission??? Secondly, I would think the charges would be public domain if someone knows where to look? Paul got involved when the warden called him to ask if the trapper was a member here. He posted i think on page 1.
NTA OSTA
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 02:57 PM
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Great job guys. Wish I did more but it seems I did enough to get it rolling. I keep checking on AT and he has only posted once or twice on that thread since this started and did not say much at all.
NTA OSTA
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 02:58 PM
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Thanks for the update boss!
NTA OSTA
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Finster]
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12/19/17 06:36 PM
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Secondly, I would think the charges would be public domain if someone knows where to look? Would probably need his last name and the county of the crime. Then look up on the county probate court docket.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
#6092019
12/19/17 06:48 PM
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I received an email from the officer about this case. Here's what he wrote.
Citations have been filed against the subject. I won’t go into specific detail, but there are multiple charges including the unlawful killing of game or wildlife. As stated earlier, the trapper was located and his trap was returned. The coyote will be retained as evidence and will not likely be given back to the trapper due to the severe damage caused by the broadhead. Great news, thanks for the update and thanks to you and all who spent time making sure this guy didn't get away with it.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Finster]
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12/19/17 06:59 PM
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OK, I missed something here. When did Paul get involved in this You'd be amazed at how Authorities JUMP and stand at attention if you throw Boss Dobbins name out there! Try it next time you get pulled over by a Cop. Just tell him you know Mr. Dobbins and the cop will run back to his car and leave!
Life always offers a second chance. It's called Tomorrow
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 07:05 PM
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Just read his last post on AT. Some lady paying his fines? Oh Paaaalease.......would love to get the details on the citations.
Believe his name is Chad Lutz. That person lives on the same road as the douche canoe that shot the coyote in the trap. Kinda ironic..... Gonna dig deeper.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: bic]
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12/19/17 07:49 PM
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OK, I missed something here. When did Paul get involved in this You'd be amazed at how Authorities JUMP and stand at attention if you throw Boss Dobbins name out there! Try it next time you get pulled over by a Cop. Just tell him you know Mr. Dobbins and the cop will run back to his car and leave! Or maybe tazed?
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: Pasadena]
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12/19/17 08:47 PM
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Read there where he said, "PA game comm couldn’t have been a nicer guy, and literally could not have gone any easier on me". Only one Lutz on Dyke Rd. And that would be Chad P. What county was the coyote shot? Had to be either Mercer or Lawrence Counties. It IS Chad Lutz. Did some digging with background app. That name came up with the Dyke ad address and a Honeywell email address.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: COLD HAND]
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12/19/17 08:50 PM
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I’m friends with the trapper And the warden Word is he got a long list of violations and is going to lose his license for 5-10 years! Thanks to you good folks on t man Would like to see that in black and white. NOT doubting you but like facts on paper. Preferably a court document.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: COLD HAND]
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12/19/17 09:01 PM
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I’m friends with the trapper And the warden Word is he got a long list of violations and is going to lose his license for 5-10 years! Thanks to you good folks on t man I don't really see that happening. Not calling you a liar but I would have to see that to believe it.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 09:09 PM
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There were some here that said nothing would happen either . Patciance. Facts will come out in due time .
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 09:23 PM
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The magistrate could decide not to revoke his hunting privileges.
He has 3 charges against him. Trespassing while hunting violation. Unlawful taking of game. Tampering with someone else's traps. I'm not sure how much revocation time he could get, but would highly doubt a magistrate is going to pound him with 5-10. I would be really surprised.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 09:30 PM
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Who knows ? Maybe they'll go easy on him and revoke his license for only 5 years , hopefully 10 and use him as a prime example ! Maybe neither, not up to us . All ready getting off easy , if some woman is paying his fines .
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 09:47 PM
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Cold hand, you want to roll with me tomorrow?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: COLD HAND]
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12/19/17 10:04 PM
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I’m friends with the trapper And the warden Word is he got a long list of violations and is going to lose his license for 5-10 years! Thanks to you good folks on t man Any idea what his criminal record looks like?
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: wildflights]
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12/19/17 10:12 PM
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I’m friends with the trapper And the warden Word is he got a long list of violations and is going to lose his license for 5-10 years! Thanks to you good folks on t man Any idea what his criminal record looks like? Coyote molester
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 10:21 PM
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 11:40 PM
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I'm guessing I won't have an account there in the morning when I wake up.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: elkaholic]
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12/19/17 11:50 PM
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I'm guessing I won't have an account there in the morning when I wake up. Why would you think that?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/19/17 11:54 PM
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Well my first post over there was to call him and the guy defending him poachers.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: elkaholic]
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12/20/17 12:27 AM
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Well my first post over there was to call him and the guy defending him poachers. A spade is a spade....... Correct?
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: elkaholic]
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12/20/17 12:40 AM
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Well my first post over there was to call him and the guy defending him poachers. Lol I saw that. I lit him up too. The won't delete your account but they will occasionally delete your post (just like here) I've been a member there for several years and witnessed several negative trapping posts. That guy seems like an arrogant piece of feces and I really do hope the judge sticks it to him (or the woman volunteering to pay his fines) lol
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: dublelung]
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12/20/17 12:48 AM
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Well my first post over there was to call him and the guy defending him poachers. Lol I saw that. I lit him up too. The won't delete your account but they will occasionally delete your post (just like here) I've been a member there for several years and witnessed several negative trapping posts. That guy seems like an arrogant piece of feces and I really do hope the judge sticks it to him (or the woman volunteering to pay his fines) lol Yeah I wonder how she'll react if his fines go over a grand.
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: skippyturtle]
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12/20/17 01:23 AM
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He might even be BSing about the lady too . Smoothing it over on the site . We'll if they take his hunting privileges away , he probably won't be doing much posting . Money is easier to find compared to years of sitting out hunting seasons , can't get them back !
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: PA coyote shot with a bow while in trap
[Re: proratman]
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12/20/17 09:11 AM
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Not good when sportsman cut each others throat! This guy wasn't a sportsman...he is a criminal.
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