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#6106056 - 12/30/17 02:24 PM problem coon
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Two tecks possibly more have been trying to rid a attic of a long term coon resident. The first put a one way door were the roof lines meet plus pest proofed the mirror image other side of home. ( the coon really was using this location for in and out before we showed up. )The second caught two squirrels and one opossum at a probable travel rout at the base of the home and spent some time doing a attic inspection.
By the time I show up the home owner is upset and demands a trap be put in the attic. I don't like to invade the animals space but the cage was set, when I went to remove the cage the next day I could play peek a boo with the coon. It was in the soffit. Non of the bait near the trap was touched. About 10 " of snow on the roof, there have been no roof tracks. I suspect the coon travels at least a little most nights. There must be a in/out that has been over looked. probable drifted in tracks rite were teck number two was catching other animals. This critter might have some cage smarts. What would you do.
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#6106421 - 12/30/17 06:20 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TRapper Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1208
Loc: Central IA
Get conibear over hole if possible
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#6106462 - 12/30/17 06:47 PM Re: problem coon [Re: TRapper]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Thanks TR. I will put off climbing on a snow covered roof until I am extremely desperate.

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#6106955 - 12/31/17 06:29 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
EatenByLimestone Offline
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Registered: 10/01/11
Posts: 75
Loc: Schenectady, NY
Yeah, a 220 over the hole. No rub marks on exit/entrance?

Dormer tie ins? Gable vents?

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#6107039 - 12/31/17 08:01 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Kurt in Va Offline
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 49
Loc: Virginia
You don't say what baits your using or how your setting the bait in the trap. There is the thought of changing out one type of trap for different, pan type changed to wire trigger or reverse.

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#6107328 - 12/31/17 12:05 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Kurt in Va]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
The hole that the coon was using at the roof line intersection has a one way door over it. I guess that it could be switched out with a 220. As soon as the one way went in this exit went dead.As far as bait I used marshmallows and sardines, the marshmallows should have eye appeal and the sardines should produce some scent in the cold.
.The coon did not touch the bait near the trap, so i am not much worried about trigger systems
thanks

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#6108171 - 12/31/17 09:24 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TRapper Offline
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Posts: 1208
Loc: Central IA
In extreme temps even a strong odor normally is marginal at best...got to get extreme smells in extreme low temps
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#6108886 - 01/01/18 10:49 AM Re: problem coon [Re: TRapper]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Back to work tomorrow. The co. won't allow much other than cages in most cases. Because this has been going on for a while I have the green light . I suspect I will put a 220 with a cubbie in the attic and a dog proof or two at the probable travel rout.I have been freezing stuff just to see if it will still produce a odor.Ringtail cocktail came out of the freezer the same way it went in , beaver caster froze hard as a rock but still stinks.A little anise oil and any other thing I can scrounge up will get to ride in the truck tomorrow.

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#6108940 - 01/01/18 11:50 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
iayogi17 Offline
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 899
Loc: N Central Iowa. 40yrs
If it was me, I would stop playing around with baits and cubbies or cages and get straight to the point of removing that raccoon.
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#6108990 - 01/01/18 12:56 PM Re: problem coon [Re: iayogi17]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Brad you have my attention, please continue with a worth while method.

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#6109331 - 01/01/18 05:03 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
star flakes Offline
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Registered: 02/19/15
Posts: 49
Loc: MN, USA
I have had coons in old barn lofts, and either killed them with a pitch fork which I pin them down until they die or I have shot them. If you can see the coon, why not put a choker on it, choke it off and it is RIP.
This time of year coons do not eat a great deal, and this one might have a food source in the house which is better than what you have. What I use is cat food in a live trap,and they have responded to horse sweet treats which is molasses based, with a plywood under the live trap so the coon can not rip up everything as they will anything within reach.

I never like using kill traps as things always show up that are not the coon.

I have had woodchucks in houses as you described and had to use a foot hold trap, but they pin into those holes and then it is a fillet knife like Davey Crockett to administer the coup de grace. My neighbor had a coon last fall by his silage pile which refused to go into a trap as someone had trapped it before in a live trap, released it along the lake as lakes and farmers always need more raccoons tearing holes in silage piles.

Hope something in the above helps.

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#6110277 - 01/02/18 12:05 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Kurt in Va Offline
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 49
Loc: Virginia
Let us know what worked for you, always interested in results

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#6110513 - 01/02/18 03:27 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
iayogi17 Offline
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 899
Loc: N Central Iowa. 40yrs
Originally Posted By: bob pake
Brad you have my attention, please continue with a worth while method.


well you said 2 or more techs have tried to bait the coon with no results so why would you think that if you do the same it would be any different? bottle neck that coon down so it goes through a trap weather it be a 160,220,or double door cage (Comstock)
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#6110823 - 01/02/18 07:04 PM Re: problem coon [Re: iayogi17]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Brad I don't know that the animal is trap shy, but it seems as though it has had opportunity to go in a cage and wouldn't.Switching to dog proofs and baited cubbies has saved the day for me a few times in similar situations ,so that is what I am hoping for.If there was a simple way to neck it down and do as you suggested I would give it a try.
Coming in with a mop and pail to clean up after a few people have had a extensive kick at the can for me usually ends up being a head scratchier.It is just a dumb animal + I strive to kiss, but honestly I have met several that are smarter than me.( sometimes it took a while but they all got to ride in the back of my truck )
Thanks for your help.

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#6111011 - 01/02/18 08:57 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
traprjohn Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 6387
Loc: Central NC
Bucket sets work great in attics!
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#6111113 - 01/02/18 10:16 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Muddawg Offline
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Registered: 06/11/12
Posts: 78
Loc: Dudley NC
I can see him having plenty of food stashed up there somewhere, but he's got to be coming out for water.

How old is this house? Is there a chance he could be traveling from attic to ground inside the walls? Older houses were built with the walls open from the crawl space to the attic to help with ventilation. They only started putting top and bottom plates on walls back in the 50's or 60's when central heat and air started becoming popular.

But, even still,... There could be an opening from attic to ground around a chimney or sewer vent.

That be the case, you may find where he's traveling through a crawl space vent.
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#6111800 - 01/03/18 04:02 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Muddawg]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Muddawg- lots of snow on the roof and every where else/ no reliable tracks. A head scratchier for sure. Modern side split about 30 years old.

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#6112548 - 01/04/18 07:55 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
iayogi17 Offline
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 899
Loc: N Central Iowa. 40yrs
I have had coon hold up in a house for 2 weeks before going back out through the roof vent when it's cold and snowy
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#6112909 - 01/04/18 12:36 PM Re: problem coon [Re: iayogi17]
Ron Scheller Offline
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Registered: 01/19/07
Posts: 1143
Loc: Mt. Olive, IL
Originally Posted By: iayogi17
I have had coon hold up in a house for 2 weeks before going back out through the roof vent when it's cold and snowy


Very common. Coons will become inactive during really cold spells, sometimes for 2 to 3 weeks. If, as mentioned in the original post, this is truly a long-term coon problem, the need for an immediate solution/removal may not be critical.

I would get that one-way removed, and take it to the local recycling center (scrap yard) where it belongs. Mount a 2-door trap (positive set) over that opening. If it takes a week or so for the coon to move, so be it. You'll get it when it ventures out.

If they are suddenly demanding it needs to be out ASAP, if you can see it while in the attic, a quality pellet gun should do the trick. Probably not legal to discharge an actual gun if it's in town, but pellet guns (such as a break-barrel) should be legal.

And if the owners don't want it killed.... they obviously aren't serious about wanting it out. If they ARE serious about it, yet refuse to use lethal methods, they should not resist the cost of a lift (if needed due to snow on roof) to place the posi-set at the hole.

You are basically fighting a couple obstacles with such a job. One: Mother Nature which is in total control on the raccoon behavior. Two: A client that is demanding results but possibly putting limits on your efforts. You can't control #1, but #2 is something that can change.
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#6113027 - 01/04/18 02:12 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Ron Scheller]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 39
Loc: southern ont. canada
Thanks Ron you seem to be the voice of reason when I might unnecessarily complicate simple procedures. I have had bait in the attic for 8 days, most of the time the bait was near a set off cage trap. Not a morsel was touched . I believe the presence of the cage is a huge deterrent. I've been to the property 3 times and have yet to find a coon track. There is enough snow on the roof and every where else the coon would belly drag. ( even I could spot those tracks ) A WCS one way door with a solid steel plate door was used. I suspect the animal will not push against the door and has been trapped in the attic. ( If it blows a hole through the roof or a ceiling I will learn how to post pictures , promise.) I think TR and others got it right. Remove the one way and install a 220. Tomorrow, I think the coldest day for cast so far, I will be on the roof.

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