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Drainfields freezing Help! #6107275
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Below The Tank our drainfield is Freezing why and how can I fix it?? The pipe. Above and below. Including the tank are standing water but thawed.


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107290
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Are you talking about your sewer lines ? how old are they ? is the ground really froze there?

Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107295
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Must not have much snow ?????


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107301
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About the only thing I can think of is straw or hay bales stacked on top with tarps over the top. Was just talking to my wife about this as we only have about an inch of snow here that might not be enough insulation if this cold lasts much longer.

Good luck!

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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107304
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How can you have standing water at that temperature ? Where is it coming from ?


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107342
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Is the pipe that is freezing a drain pipe that comes out of the ground?

Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107348
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First thing I would do is stop putting water down the drains. Could it be the outlet of the tank that is frozen rather than the ground over the drain field ?


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107366
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It's below the Tank... drainfield ...and yes little snow


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107377
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How old is the system? Have you had trouble in the past? Do you have long grass over the drain field to catch snow? Straw sounds like a good idea, if not enough bales to cover the whole area, you could set up some snow fence to corral it then bust up the bales and fluf it up.

Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107383
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Never asked if it's a mound or gravity. Never hurts to add bacteria either. All this anti- bacteria crap can't be good for a system, or bleach.

Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107388
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Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
It's below the Tank... drainfield ...and yes little snow



So is the 'standing water' backing up out of the vent pipes ?

Sounds like the straw might be a good idea.


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107644
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Yes.. White's correct...it's freezing up and out of the lower vent pipes sticking up in drainfield Bellow tank... Thanks for the advice, I'll get hay tomorrow over the area.


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107685
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Do you have a lift tank or is it gravity ? Real drain field or seepage bed ?

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You might consider getting the tank pumped in the meantime


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107965
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I had a buddy who made his own steamer to thaw his waterlines (steam is better than hot water if you dont want to get wet with sewage water...dont ask how we learned that wink he used a pressure cooker pot and some very small diameter pex piping slipped over the vent, just feed it down the cleanout pipes in each direction, and thaw the blockage. Heat traces in the tank seem to help too, anything to warm it up and keep the heat in.


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107974
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I have a gravity system...that's all I know, a longer than normal run from house to tank...they did that to get to a stopping sand Hill for the drain field.. don't know what type of drainfield but left and right 4" pipes coming up. White, they tell me not to pump tank out now or it will freeze harder.


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I might talk to the designer tomorrow...


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107976
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Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
Yes.. White's correct...it's freezing up and out of the lower vent pipes sticking up in drainfield Bellow tank... Thanks for the advice, I'll get hay tomorrow over the area.


I agree with White also. I have seen that happen before when the temps stay so low for so long and the ground doesn't have snow cover. Good luck when extremes happen so does the problems.


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6107994
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Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
I have a gravity system...that's all I know, a longer than normal run from house to tank...they did that to get to a stopping sand Hill for the drain field.. don't know what type of drainfield but left and right 4" pipes coming up. White, they tell me not to pump tank out now or it will freeze harder.



Yeah I can see that. Any liquids in there should be generating some heat


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Re: Drainfields freezing Help! [Re: 330-Trapper] #6108196
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I would go and buy some septic blankets and then cover them with added straw and insulate real good.

I would be inclined to pump tank and by the time the tank filled up your drain field may thaw as the ground below is warm and if you insulate and over do it the field will thaw I think.

I also have made a steam tank and it's very simple. And you could run some pex down your drainfield lines and thaw it out. Also you could hook up a nipco and force heat down your clean out pipes. But make sure you insulate first. If you need help with steamer pm me

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