The local news has ran a story the last couple of nights that the local dog shelter is picking up dogs that are left outside. If they see a dog outside they come back in 20 min if it is still out they take it to the shelter. I remember in previous years they would bring a bail of straw to the dogs left out, but taking them seems over the top to me. I have always had outside dogs. They have a doghouse with hay to sleep in, but outside. Not sure if someone came into my yard to take my dog it would end well.
What do you all think?

It's stupid....another sign that people don't understand animals, property rights and are looking for things to care about.

When we had dogs the outside dogs were well taken care of in good dog houses and straw.

I remember I had a friend over ince who thought it was mean that the dog house was so small.....couldn't get them to understand that a small house keeps the pooch warm.

Growing up n the farm in northern Ontario our dogs never came inside. Never had one get sick or have any trouble at all with the cold. They also ate beaver all winter.

Cant reason with those people, waste of time.

I think I'd be going to jail.

Do they come with officers and a warrant?
They pick up aLL these dogs then complain the shelters are over capacity.

It’s been really cold here this week. -46 at night. We have two dogs and they stay outside. They don’t come in the house ever so they’re use to being outside no matter what the weather is.
I wonder how people think foxes, coyotes, and other animals stay alive during the winter. Look at squirrels for crying out loud. Toasty warm.

Andrew I know it would end badly. For the people trespassing on my property and stealing my dog. Not doing that here. Last dog I had was a mountain cur. Short hair like a hound. Got straw in his dog box in the winter. Never came in the house. Never had a hound that came in either. Even those short haired dogs can take cold weather if they are not constantly being brought in the house.

I personally don't agree with leaving dogs outside but I understand it is necessary with some working dogs.

It is not a "cold" issue with me assuming they are well-cared for and have some sort of shelter where they can get out of the wind and weather. We keep cats, chickens and rabbits outside. All are well-fed and watered (not easy keeping their water liquid with these temps) and have shelters stuffed with wood shavings and straw where they can get out of the weather and try to keep warm.

But dogs are pack animals and we treat ours as part of the family. They live in the house with us 24/7. It's impossible to create a pack bond when the dog is isolated away from the family. Too much time in the kennel or chained out makes any dog neurotic, same thing would happen to an isolated human.

I really hate to see a single dog chained out 24/7...what is the point of having one?

But, it's up to a dog owner how he treats his dog, the do-gooders should bugger off and mind their own business.

Having a box with straw and being chained out in the cold with no where to go are 2 different ball games to me. I put my outside dogs in at night when it's well below zero. But there old hounds that don't have much fur. They love when its time to go into the 40 degree shop. What gets me is these guys that are always looking for a cheap or free dog because they can't afford anything. How will you feed it shelter it and doctor it if you need a free or cheap dog ?

I think I wish I had a taser. I believe that would be trespassing and theft if not mistaken.

This AM the blond lady says they are offering specials on doggy adoption as they are over capacity. Animal control officers helped them save 80 dogs over the weekend. Some of the dogs even had frozen water bowls. They even had a couple of huskys. Sounds like they take all dogs outside.

The more people I hear talk on TV the smarter my dog seems.

Private property.They better have their guns out.

I have had dogs outside my whole life.Nice warm insulated dog houses with a flap over the entrance with a walk way on the inside of the dog house and another inside entrance to the sleeping box with straw.

Do the coyotes and fox go inside when it's this cold?

I think people ought to mind their own business. An outside dog is a tough animal. When I used to have coon dogs and it got cold we always piled straw bales over their doghouse. I remember several mornings when it was -20 or more the dogs would be laying on top the straw bales.... not in their hay stuffed house. If a dog is well feed, dry, off the wind and has hay inside his box he is happy. I had a coon dog get lost out hunting once. I could not find it for several days. It got cold. After a couple days a sheriff deputy came driving in my yard. The Sheriff Dept had picked up my dog and put it in a small kennel outside. Then they forgot about the dog. For three days. The deputy told me the dog froze to death. No food, water,shelter... just a plywood wind break. It was a bad deal. So if they ever come to me about my dog being outside (dry, fat, happy and sheltered) I'll remind them big time about the time my dog was in "jail" and how they took care of it!!

Morons....with an agenda.

My dogs are inside, but I still dare them to try to grab one. kate the great dane would hit them low, while doc the ridgeback , would land on top of thier head. He is getting very protective of his family!

Outside in an insulated house full of straw Eating Beaver, and other meats. Half or more of this "rescue" crap is outright Theft brought on by brainwashing. No 90% is more accurate.

My ridge back lab cross is happy staying in the garage when it's cold. In fact she comes in the house and five minutes later she wants out there. I'd feel sorry for anyone tried to take her. They'd meet 73 pounds of teeth and fury.

When will they head to Alaska. They will be busy there. Idiots they are. My outside dogs used to push the straw out the door, onto the snow, then lay on top. Heated waterers. Food, and kids to play with on nice days. my two dogs are house dogs now. And I don't have a pack of hounds, so its inside dogs for us. At -8 this morning, they are out playing as much as they are inside. They like the snow.

Just exactly where did they steal 80 dogs at? In Fontana? That sounds like something they would do in Lawrence.

People need to leave others alone. I know some dogs do not get taken care of properly, but most do. I was working on a powerline right of way in Iowa 3 years ago. I had to meet with all property owners as we entered thier property. I met with a guy that had a bunch of walkers chained up, with nothing more than a steel barrel to get into. No straw, carpet or anything. I watched those dogs quivering from the cold. They were under fed and just looked emaciated. It was sad. This person was a total jerk in my mind. Most people would not do that, and would take care of the hounds, that work hard to please the owner.
Now going around to steal dogs that are outside is exactly that, STEALING. Thieves are thieves no matter thier reasoning.

Plenty of dogs that are built for living outside...but some that clearly aren't.

There are Idiots on both sides of this topic.

We have a livestock guardian dog that HATES to come inside. The more snow the better in his mind! If someone came to take him have at 'er! We can't get him in the car if it meant drugging him! He is a 100 pound ball of fighting fur when it comes to things trespassing on his turf!

Taking a dog is wrong no matter what. If anyone comes for my dog's then go ahead and taste lead!

Some breeds do fine outside when properly cared for. But I see small house dogs kept outside around here and it makes me mad. I never could understand someone having a lap dog and not letting it in the house. Hunting dogs and work dogs are one thing, but some breeds were bred for companionship. My maltese woke up under the covers this morning, his job is to bark to let me know something aint right in the house , the rest is up to me. He is my companion not a tool. I understand some dogs are nothing but a tool to some people and that is fine if they are cared for, personally I see a lot of divine intervention in this one species of animal.

Dogs are comfortable outside if the outside is the climate the breed was developed in.
Just like Alaskans being comfortable in long sleeve shirt and jeans in thirty five, forty degrees. People from more southern climates would be"cold" in their bubble rap "parkas". I agree stealing is what it is, but common sense is needed also. A short haired dog
In single digits is miserable unless he is exercising and burning calories to stay warm.

We had a little dog that could not deal with the cold. Some days, he would be freezing in the house. He always stayed in a pile of blankets. I'd actually shovel a path in the snow, to the yard for his outhouse missions. His legs were about 4" long, so his junk would drag in the snow. If I did not make a path, he'd go where he hit deep snow, which was the edge of the garage floor. 4" of snow, he was belly deep, so I did what I had to do.

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Meaning I made him a path thru the snow to the grass.

Unfortunately, if you brandish a gun while a humane officer is performing their duties, you are viewed as in the "WRONG" and are in deep trouble. Even if they enter your private property, the humane officer has the duty to inform, but after that you are in trouble if you resist. I'm not certain this applies to every state, but it does in most.

Wife has a little lap dog that lives in the house. She puts a dog sweater on it when its cold out. That dog does its business in a hurry when she lets it out on cold days even with a sweater. An outside dog acclimated to winter will immediately if not sooner start panting if you bring it into a heated environment. Plenty of food, a warm dry bed out of the wind, fresh water stead of ice a couple times a day, and dogs do fine outside all winter.

Just exactly where did they steal 80 dogs at? In Fontana? That sounds like something they would do in Lawrence. [/quote]

This was on fox 4 news KC, it is the closest news we get. KC pet project is the pet rescuer.

I'm 5'10" and mine drags in the snow when I to out to cool off when taking a sauna. The cross I have to bear.

Me and a buddy were taking a whiz off a bridge once. He says to me, "That water is cold."

I told him, "It's deep too."

Finn, if BS could fly, you would be a jet. Happy New Year!

Zim

How low do it go, into the snow.

Sitting here watching the local news the other morning they usually have a veterinarian on there she’s always trying to get folks to adopt one of the dogs at their shelter, she mentioned how they have a city ordinance against leaving pets outside during cold weather. The news anchor ask how k9’s survived outside and her response was wolves have dens. Mind you this is an ohio news channel.

Last year in Sioux Falls, SD animal control took a Siberian Husky that was outside. The family got it back after the local news ran a story with the family saying the dog is well cared for and enjoys playing in the snow outside.

This year a Boxer got lost for 7 days in this below zero temp and was found alive. The dog and family were from Omaha visiting over Christmas.

When Animal control tells everyone their pets will freeze if not inside. Then this Boxer from 3 hours south lives for 7 days in below zero weather. Kind of goes against what they tell the public about dogs dying if left outside in a dog house.

I am guessing high IQ is not a requirement to being in animal control.

I don not believe there is such a thing as a "humane officer", maybe a dog catcher but a "humane officer"?

Now I have to get meatloaf out of my nose and off the keyboard. Way to go.

Finn, I guess when I think I see some big muskrat tracks in the snow it must have been you passing through. Good to know. I would hate to have to post a "What kind of track is this Post".

When he runs, where his feet hit it looks like an otter trail!

A lot of fisherman on here

I had a golden retriever for a while. Hed climb out of his insulated doghouse at 30 below and the steam would roll off of him as he stretched. Lol.

This weekend my in laws lab husky cross always kept laying by the door while inside. Always seemed to want to be where it was cold...

I know of a breeder near here who keeps his german shorthairs penned outside all year. Has a blanket in the kennels. Dogs seem to do fine.

Most dogs are fine outside, but I wouldnt leave a non husky type outside without a good doghouse.

Some states have given authority to animal shelters and other AR types to go on private property and seize "Mistreated" animals.

Branish a gun????????If I pull a gun out its to use it.I'm protecting myself,others and my property.

Back in March of '67 we had a heck of a snowstorm. I don't remember the amount we ended up getting, but it was near 3 feet all in one storm. It was a windy deal too, so there were unbelievable drifts. One went from the peak of our roof clear to the ground....12-14 foot deep snowdrift.....my dogs house was against that wall. I was certain he'd suffocated, but my Pappy shoveled for what seemed like hours to extricate the mutt. When he'd finally cleared a path to the door flap of the doghouse, you could hear the dogs tail thumping away in there, but the dog refused to come out! He was warm as toast inside that buried doghouse, in fact, he was likely warmer before his house was dug out.

We had 10 + Hunting Dogs all the time I was a kid and they lived in insulated houses outside with lots of fresh straw, good tripe, other meat and dry dog food, water. and they did just fine. I can see some / one shelter doing that; however, I would hope it would be ruled illegal. In fact we were on the shores of Lake Huron in the tip of thumb and it was one of the windiest, coldest places - huge wind farms are built there today.