Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 01:35 PM
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Dirt
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Did the brochure show only 3" of ice and no two foot of snow to shovel first?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 01:37 PM
01/02/18 01:37 PM
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If you read the brochure, did you take not of the * on page 3? The disclosure for this * is found on the back page in fine print. It reads "Wait until spring, dummie."
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 01:58 PM
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There's an under ice Yeti peeking at you through the hole.Better get some bigger traps.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: muddyriverdogz]
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01/02/18 01:59 PM
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There's an under ice Yeti peeking at you through the hole.Better get some bigger traps. It's Jason Voorhees
Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Aaron Proffitt]
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01/02/18 02:34 PM
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There's an under ice Yeti peeking at you through the hole.Better get some bigger traps. It's Jason Voorhees Ch Ch Ch Ch ch... Ah ah ah ah ah Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 02:55 PM
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Finster, forget the axe and bring a spud...
~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Redknot]
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01/02/18 03:00 PM
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Finster, forget the axe and bring a spud... Yup, I don't have one. I'll have to get one.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 03:37 PM
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I can only remember a couple years when we needed a chainsaw. This ain't Alaska. The problem here is we rarely get solid ice that lasts. Watch out for those runs with next to no ice over top. Not worth taking a polar bath for $10 beaver.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Hornytoad1]
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01/02/18 04:20 PM
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Any of you guys use a ice saw instead of a chain saw to cut threw the ice? I heard they work real well. So I ordered a Fish's Ice Saw today. www.icesaw.com How do you get a hole open in order to use the saw????
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: bctomcat]
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01/02/18 04:24 PM
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Any of you guys use a ice saw instead of a chain saw to cut threw the ice? I heard they work real well. So I ordered a Fish's Ice Saw today. www.icesaw.com How do you get a hole open in order to use the saw???? Some are designed to be able to open their own hole. Others you spud a starter
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: bctomcat]
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01/02/18 04:33 PM
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Any of you guys use a ice saw instead of a chain saw to cut threw the ice? I heard they work real well. So I ordered a Fish's Ice Saw today. www.icesaw.com How do you get a hole open in order to use the saw???? A Spud
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 04:58 PM
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Throw away all that junk and do like Hutchy said and get a chainsaw,unless you want to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around all day instead of setting traps.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Boco]
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01/02/18 05:15 PM
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Throw away all that junk and do like Hutchy said and get a chainsaw,unless you want to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around all day instead of setting traps. x2! I usually set 3 snare poles around every feed pile I can find or know of, plus any obvious or known trails in between. Just setting 4 different ponds that is a minimum of 12 different holes to cut through anywhere up to 30" of ice- I will stick with a stihl or jonsered myself.
Last edited by beltrami trapper; 01/02/18 05:15 PM.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 05:48 PM
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If you have 6 inches or less of ice I would just use a spud. I don't break out the chainsaw for thin ice.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 06:17 PM
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I can swing an axe better then a spud....I have a spud, it's heavy and can't get the job done for me like an axe...jmo If your remote on foot like me, I'm not dragging a spud for a mile....chainsaw sounds best if your walk is close or on a snow machine. Or wait till spring
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 06:21 PM
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I pull a sled with a spud, axe, trap setter, 330 or 2, 1.5 coils, 1 longs, 110, 120, mink lure, wire, pliers, snares, and depending on the area, 220 and bobcat box. Doesn't take much more to pull and I'm ready for most things I find on the location.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Boco]
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01/02/18 06:46 PM
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Throw away all that junk and do like Hutchy said and get a chainsaw,unless you want to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around all day instead of setting traps. When Boco Is All Jacked-Up On Poutine and Tim Horton's Coffee, He Doesn't Need An Axe, Spud, Or Chainsaw. He Just Tears Open The Ice With His Bare Hands !! w
"Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: zammerak]
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01/02/18 07:34 PM
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. We use an auger to cut holes in the corners and saw the rest out. Now you have two additional tools to haul around with your chainsaw while trapping. Doesn't make sense to me.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 07:38 PM
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Is not nearly as fun as it says in the brochure. The chances are very good that I'll catch my first under ice beaver in the next few days. In Alabama! Huh?
Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Josh Weizenegger]
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01/02/18 09:38 PM
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white17
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Axe is what i use all year chainsaw can stay home if youre on active runs it never gets to thick one problem is that with an axe you get splashed when you break through the bottom of the ice. That SUX ! Also, in over 40 some years of looking...I have NEVER found a beaver run...where the ice was thin.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: white17]
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01/02/18 09:56 PM
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Axe is what i use all year chainsaw can stay home if youre on active runs it never gets to thick one problem is that with an axe you get splashed when you break through the bottom of the ice. That SUX ! Also, in over 40 some years of looking...I have NEVER found a beaver run...where the ice was thin. I don't think the frozen levels of overflow are prevented from freezing by beaver activity under the initial layer of ice.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 10:11 PM
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Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one. Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house.
Last edited by Boco; 01/02/18 10:13 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Boco]
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01/02/18 10:16 PM
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Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one. Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house. White has been searching for that next house for 40 years maybe it will be the next one.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Boco]
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01/02/18 10:17 PM
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Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one. Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house. Problem is when every house is like that. Long ago I would use an ax for the first 12” or so then finish with a chisel. Now it’s chainsaw with no bar oil.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 10:18 PM
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Boco
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No two are ever the same.It even changes from month to month.End Feb and March is prime time for under ice beaver trapping here.Good snow cover and less ice being made at night.Best conditions and the pelts are peak prime.Dec/Jan lots of ice being made every night.
Last edited by Boco; 01/02/18 10:22 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 10:24 PM
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Oh Snap
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Anyone ever see beaver coming out from under 2 feet of ice and chewing on spruce? Starving!
I found a old house and the ice was 3 feet thick and when we busted through there was no water. It smelled kind of like a barn and was active. I met the guy who trapped that area in the 50's and he called that colony his dry farmers.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Boco]
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01/02/18 10:24 PM
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No two are ever the same. True. Bum freeze up for me this year and when I left camp 2 weeks ago every puddle had overflow. Didn’t think I was going to get out. Gonna be thick ice for beavers this year. All there is to it.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 10:28 PM
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Boco
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If we don't get a good snow cover soon we are on track for another freezeout like the one in the early 90's here. Yesterday we had a frostquake here,shook all the houses.Frost is going deep this year with the long term frigid temps and no snow to speak of. Last freezeout,after doing an aerial survey one line went from 65 live houses to 8.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Finster]
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01/02/18 10:33 PM
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Oh Snap
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I don't remember what year the regulations changed but prior to change you couldn't trap closer to a house than 25 feet and could not start till February 1. IMO waiting till February is Like Boco said February and March beaver are the best.
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Re: Beaver under the ice
[Re: Dirt]
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01/03/18 12:12 AM
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Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one. Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house. White has been searching for that next house for 40 years maybe it will be the next one. LOL !!!!!! God !! I hope not !!!
Mean As Nails
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