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wolf creek products dogless # 2 any experience with them and what do you think? I would like to keep discussion to experience with these traps. thanks!
need a trap i can afford, lol
also reviews on super stakes with chains would be great. thanks for your help.

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I run and build super stakes on chain. They are tough. Hold up well in rocky conditions. Unless you are in very loose soil, the originals will be more than enough.


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Sorry your not getting many replies. We have not had this trap out very long but it is selling very well.
If you have ever used the original Montgomery dogless it is very close to that trap.

Sorry, no experience with super stakes.


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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: Trapper new] #6119586
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Originally Posted By: Trapper new
wolf creek products dogless # 2 any experience with them and what do you think? I would like to keep discussion to experience with these traps. thanks!
need a trap i can afford, lol
also reviews on super stakes with chains would be great. thanks for your help.


I picked up two dozen. They're built a little stronger than I imagined for $99 a dozen. The "dogless," feature sticks up just a tad higher above the jaw then the Bridger 2's. The only complaint I've had so far. I'm going to be setting them for cats so I'm not real worried about modifications as of yet. I think if I was going to be going after coyotes you might want to laminate the jaws, weld the jaw tips, and possibly base-plate. I plan to run them bone stock without waxing or dying. See what they're made of. I love the fact that the pan sits well below the jaws.


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Thanks for the info, I'm definitely gonna get a dozen, they look great.

Keep me posted on catches thanks.

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I was given two by Glen couple weeks ago a #2 and #3 - Very nice trap - I placed a large stock order; hopefully, we receive and I'll make a few more sets this winter before breaking out the fishing poles. I think fox and coyote trappers are really going to like this trap.

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Originally Posted By: John-Chagnon
I was given two by Glen couple weeks ago a #2 and #3 - Very nice trap - I placed a large stock order; hopefully, we receive and I'll make a few more sets this winter before breaking out the fishing poles. I think fox and coyote trappers are really going to like this trap.


They are making this in a #3 as well??

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Yes, I also have #3s.


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How does the #2 fare as a coyote trap

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I used a dozen #2 dog on models this year and smoothed the jaw edged and laminated. Caught a few coyotes and some fox in them with no problems. Good spring strength and good hard steel. They function about like the other #2 square jaws out there.


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I'm familiar with the Bridger #2 dogless and how they have sort of a convenient night latch to set the pan. Do these wolf creek dogless traps have a similar set up? Lift the pan the whole way up to lock the jaw down, then drop the pan til it clicks?


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Originally Posted By: hubler13f
I'm familiar with the Bridger #2 dogless and how they have sort of a convenient night latch to set the pan. Do these wolf creek dogless traps have a similar set up? Lift the pan the whole way up to lock the jaw down, then drop the pan til it clicks?


No, they do not. They are like the original Mongomery traps.


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I ordered a #2 and #3 dogless. I'll post some thoughts once I receive than and get to play with them a bit.


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Me being a rookie an all can anyone post pics of what you mean by laminating jaws or the best way. I had a duke #2 set off this evening standing up stretched out, don't know what caused it.

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probably a deer happens a lot here.

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Here's a 1.5 that's been double laminated

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How's the lock up on the #2s? I've not had the best luck w #2 Monty square jaws locking up. Even the later model high lever factory offsets. What is jaw spread on the #2?Offset available? Thanks

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No offsets yet. Jaw spread 5 7/16".
Lock up is the same as our other traps. No problems.
I only designed the trigger after the Montgomery.


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Do you have a website?

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I do but these traps are not on it. You can see them on FaceBook.
And Wolfdog91 has pictures on here.

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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: WadeRyan] #6128791
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Originally Posted By: WadeRyan
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wolf creek products dogless # 2 any experience with them and what do you think? I would like to keep discussion to experience with these traps. thanks!
need a trap i can afford, lol
also reviews on super stakes with chains would be great. thanks for your help.


I picked up two dozen. They're built a little stronger than I imagined for $99 a dozen. The "dogless," feature sticks up just a tad higher above the jaw then the Bridger 2's. The only complaint I've had so far. I'm going to be setting them for cats so I'm not real worried about modifications as of yet. I think if I was going to be going after coyotes you might want to laminate the jaws, weld the jaw tips, and possibly base-plate. I plan to run them bone stock without waxing or dying. See what they're made of. I love the fact that the pan sits well below the jaws.


I just rec'd my dozen in the mail to try. I would agree with Wade. They feel lot heavier build than a duke #2. I had to adjust 1 pan out of the bunch(it was a little "hair trigger" grin) and swap 1 end swivel that was backwards. Not a big deal. I'm glad I got them!

I have them getting a quick degrease in the Dishwasher before the boss gets home from work.......wish me luck.

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How much are a dozen #3 dogless

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How much are a dozen #3 dogless


I was told $140/doz. Can’t recall if that was shipped or not.

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Yes, fir right now they are #140.00 a dozen shipped.


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1st night in the ground for my new #2 dogless traps.


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Glad you did good. That's a pretty cat.


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Finally got to play with th #2 dogless. It is a workable trap if you want dogless. I personally prefer dog on if fox are a percentage of the target.

I was going to do a long review with photos but can’t post from my phone. You can thank photobucket...


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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: Trapper new] #6144844
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Posting for coon duke

They set pretty flat with the pan pretty low on the 2s



Wish the pan was a little bigger but oh well



I cut the L off all Bridger type springs. It keeps coyotes from popping them and the loose jaw sets lower.


I had to remove the pan bolt nut. I could t get it adjusted right. The bolt stud should be a little longer on the 2. It’s fin on the 3.

I had to bend the pan to lower them by putting a screwdriver or rod under the shank and bending down

I also popped the jaws and sanded the edges on a vertical belt sander. This smoothed them and lowered pan tension a bit. The pan notch needs some filing just like the old Monty dogless

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I have never had anything pop a Northwoods type spring but I have heard of it.
Some used to put a spot of weld on the tip.
I will just keep using them till I have a problem.
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I like the traps, caught a nice red fox with one today and 2 coons, I did happen to pop a jaw out on my own trying to pry frozen trap open. welding tips is probably a great idea

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Just got a dozen of the wolf creek #2 dogless today. In full disclosure I have never used any of the old Montys and was not used to a pan setup and adjustment as these had so there was a little bit of a learning curve. I agree with everything Wolfdog laid out.
-I had a few that I could not set out of the box without some adjusting and file work. The adjustment bolt could stand to be about 4-5 threads (about 3/16") longer, because by the time I had adjusted them out to where they would hold the nut was about 1/4 of the way off the threads.
-The pan does sit really low between the jaws which I like.
-The pan seems a bit small but because the pan sits so low it seems to limit the width due to the space between the levers. Although I may be able to add a little bit to the length.
-The price point is great at about $8.33 per trap shipped to your door they are hard to beat, I was out in Grampian, PA today and told Sunderland about them and he seemed amazed at the price.
All in all I am very happy with them I may have to do a little tinkering to get them right where I want them, but I think they are well worth it.


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When will these be on the site? I'm hoping to get a dozen or 2 when I get up some money this spring.

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Springs seem pretty strong? How hard are they to set?

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Originally Posted By: hillbillyjake
Springs seem pretty strong? How hard are they to set?


Yeah, the springs are strong and they seem very fast! They were kind of a pain to set until I figured them out, but by the time I adjusted and set the 12th one I had it down. I was thinking about 4 coiling them until I got them, now I think 4 coiling them might be a bit much. I may leave them alone for a couple seasons before I start modding.

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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: hillbillyjake] #6147043
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Originally Posted By: hillbillyjake
Springs seem pretty strong? How hard are they to set?


My springs seem strong and I agree they are fast. If you don’t get dog on the jaw right, you can’t get your hand out of the way quick enough. Ha ha. I agree that there seems to be a learning curve in setting vs a dog on trap for me anyways. If I can set em, anyone can set em.

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I believe Montgomery eventually did away with the adjustment bolt going down from the pan. That's how I set them. Just use a finger to push the pan up with the bolt. Then you are not in the trap.


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Originally Posted By: Wolfdog91



Are the #3 traps listed here dogless?


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I hope not, because I ordered a dozen of the no.3 dogless that were 140.00 dozen shipped.

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Not on that sheet but I do have them


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#3 vs #2 for reference
#2 - 5 7/16” inside; 5 11/16” outside. 1/8” jaw
#3- 6 3/16” inside 6 9/16” outside. 3/16” jaw



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Inside jaw spread is exactly ?
I sure would be interested thank you in advance.looks to be 6 1/16 close? Thanks
Offsets jaw version available?

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I get 6 1/8" inside. 6 1/2 outside.

Im working on offsets but not yet.
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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: Trapper new] #6150073
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Jaw tips look mighty short on that #3


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When will offset jaws be available?


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So how much are the dogless?

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Originally Posted By: Coyotejody1979
So how much are the dogless?


#3 Dogless are $140 shipped per dozen

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Originally Posted By: trappergbus
When will offset jaws be available?


Hopefully next fall


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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: yote65Ga] #6150718
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Originally Posted By: grey55
Jaw tips look mighty short on that #3
X2. Definitely want to bubble tip those.


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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: Trapper new] #6151134
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I really like the dogless, caught a nice red fox friday, real deep

i do find them tricky to lighten poundage. Any tips.....although I guess i higher poundage the deeper the catch.

Has anyone used the wolf creek dog on traps, how do they compare, what do u pefer.

Anyone laminate jaws yet

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You have to tune them with a file.


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Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: Trapper new] #6152791
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I wasn't going to 4 coil mine, but I'm not one to leave anything alone. I ended up using the Taos Lightening Spring Kit#7. Its the same kit used for Northwoods and Bridger #2s. It makes them pretty tuff to set but doable, They were fast before but now they are dangerous. I hope not to get my hands caught in these while in the woods or I might be stuck for a while.


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Got my new #3 Dogless today. I had one that took about 10 minutes of work before I could even set it, but the others were working fine right outta the box. I usually dont modify traps too much but I will put a bubble on the jaw tips. Pan tension is pretty high, which I really like. I dont plan on base plating or adding extra springs because I think they will hold any coyote just the way they are. Overall, it seems like a good trap and I look forward to using them.

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Glenn's a great guy and has a good product, andkeeps his prices modest to boot. I Met him at the National Trappers Convention in pennsylvania couple years ago.I won a bunch of DP's from him on a photo contest.

Re: wolf creek products dogless # 2 reviews [Re: hubler13f] #6157552
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Originally Posted By: hubler13f
I wasn't going to 4 coil mine, but I'm not one to leave anything alone. I ended up using the Taos Lightening Spring Kit#7. Its the same kit used for Northwoods and Bridger #2s. It makes them pretty tuff to set but doable, They were fast before but now they are dangerous. I hope not to get my hands caught in these while in the woods or I might be stuck for a while.


When setting them hold one lever down with your knee and the other with one hand, then reach under the loose jaw with your free hand and push the pan up until it catches. That's how I set my dogless traps. Than way if it goes off for some reason you hand is not between the jaws. Happy trapping.

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