Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/07/18 09:45 PM
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Hey mousetrap trapper I am in the same boat send me a pm
Your only as good as your last job!!
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/07/18 09:47 PM
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Experience is the teacher . Paying attention to tracks and things after the initial setting to refine it . Hard to give an answer without seeing the situation .
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/07/18 09:56 PM
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TheBig1
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I'm 2 weeks into my first season. I'll be paying close attention to this.
You can't cheat the mountain pilgrim. Mountain's got its own ways.
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/08/18 05:39 AM
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red mt
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Snow is one of the very best teachers of location, tracks .
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: Brokenboots]
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01/08/18 07:31 AM
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Look it over good and put in 2 or 3 sets in the area if you feel led. You’ll either have multiple catches at times or learn the preferences of target critters. I have found it to be worth the time if you have the equipment. That's what I've been doing and kind of know my spots on the farms I been Trapping now but I want to get away from setting say 20 traps and maybe get down to 10 with the same results. Thanks for your input.
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: red mt]
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01/08/18 07:34 AM
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Snow is one of the very best teachers of location, tracks . Yea I agree, but I don't want to wait for snow at a new spot I want to be able to look a spot over and know almost every fox is coming to this spot. Just always hear location,location,location but nobody elaborates more than general location. Hard to explain but thanks for your input
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/08/18 08:42 AM
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Snow is a great teacher. There is no way to hide from it. Another great teacher is technology. With today's trail cameras and a little scouting there is no reason you can't keep track of animals year round if you wanted. I had a spot before snow that had 3 sets. The middle set caught most of the fox there with a straggler in the outer traps a couple times. The sets we're only 30 yards space. I set cameras to see what was going on. I highly recommend setting cameras before setting traps. If you don't get them on camera you won't get them in traps and you don't have to check the cameras daily. This is my experience. I am sure not everyone has cameras laying around but I do and I use them. They are relatively inexpensive now days.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Let's talk location...
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01/08/18 10:21 AM
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I'm right in there with you guys. Mousey trapper doesn't want to share secrets with the public....lol
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/08/18 03:01 PM
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Golf ball said a mouthful there. Not if but when it IS going to change. So when you find it set, because it will change. Deer same way.
I have learned new things by taking friends on my line. Two heads better than one even if one's a cabbage head lol. What County are you in 1989?
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: USMC47 🦫]
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01/08/18 05:52 PM
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I can't tell you how many times I've been with a trapper. We hop out of the truck, I say "You pick first." And he picks a great spot but in the predominantly wrong wind direction.
Wind changes often, but if it doesn't, you want that wind to take the smell to where the target will be.
Also, remember that as it gets colder at night, smell goes down with the air currents. Look at your set and determine where "down" is. I'm not sure we trappers realize how much the wind changes. I documented the temp, and wind direction, and any major weather events (snow, and inch of rain ect) this year in the morning before I pulled out of my driveway. I was amazed at the directions I recorded. Talk to any trapper around here and the predominant wind is North West, and I have always set accordingly. The wind varied that much, that next year I am going to intentionally set a few sets in other directions, and see what happens.
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Re: Let's talk location...
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01/08/18 06:25 PM
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Golf ball said a mouthful there. Not if but when it IS going to change. So when you find it set, because it will change. Deer same way.
I have learned new things by taking friends on my line. Two heads better than one even if one's a cabbage head lol. What County are you in 1989? I'm in Lancaster county, you?
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/09/18 09:54 PM
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I have only been trapping 6 yrs on my land. Something that really helped me is what others have hit on.. Taking advantage of the predominant wind direction. I’m down in a valley so to speak, which makes wind direction difficult to predict, so I started setting multiple traps in what I think to be good locations, to ensure the critters smell one of my sets no matter the direction of wind. I know you stated you would like to minimize the amount of traps but this helped me.
As far as location, Something which helped me pick good locations was boots on the ground. I would (and still do) pick up tracks in the snow and follow them. Try to understand why the coyote went this direction or that direction. Some I just could not understand why they walked the way they did, however, most of the tracks I follow almost always led to areas where multiple habitat features or travel corridors intersect.
Criticism is the death gurgle of a non achiever 7 yr apprentice Coyote- 94 Red fox- 2 Grey fox- 9 Fisher- 46 Bobcat- 1 Coon- 14 Crow- 2 Turkey-1
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/09/18 10:13 PM
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Because of the ever changing wind direction, I try to make 2 sets at each stop. I make One set on each side of the path so I have it covered when the wind shifts.
Life always offers a second chance. It's called Tomorrow
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/09/18 10:36 PM
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patrapper1989, am from Pa. too. Make more then one set per location. Here's a few locations, in my area, that produce each season. Hope this helps. Location is where the point of the brushy ravine stops, dead ends in field. There is also a swale in field, running from brushy point to left. Two sets located 25'-30' from point. Same set, different year. Bingo I think this location is what folks call funnels. Am standing in funnel neck, high fields on both sides, brushy below. 2 sets on crop change left, 2 sets at tractor path between trees. Once in awhile there will be 2-3-4 critters waiting. High, high atop an open field, in the middle of nowhere. Why? Why? This location, I liken it to a Beaver dam crossover. Woods & Brush 80 yds. to right, Woods & Brush 100 yds. to left. Fox/Coyote 'crossover' right here. The Lone Tree location. Lone Tree = fur Brushy Hollow dead ends into a field. Swale running up hill to diversion ditch (left, not in pic) 2 traps 20' from brush, 2 traps at top of swale, on diversion ditch (not in pic) Good location is the longest crop change or fence line in your area. Corn field runs for 2 miles with ole canal on right. Tractor lane next to brushy canal. Long travel way. Another long travel way. Crop change, property line runs down hill, then up hill to woodlot. (same view behind me, not in pic) Longest crop change in the area. Same location on long travel way. Forgotten fence post is the spot Hope those pictures help you patrapper1989. When you find some locations and get the hang of it... I'll tell you how to catch Fox/Coyote in the Corn fields.
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: JoeyHalk]
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01/10/18 11:42 PM
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Awesome pictures Hern, I would never think to set out there in the middle unless it was a crop change. That is awesome. X2
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: the Blak Spot]
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01/11/18 08:36 AM
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Hern
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Thank you guys. Am sure these locations are in everyone's area here in the east. I trap all private property. Rural area. Open field trapping one has to read the terrain. This property butts up against our local Mall. Only property I've have not caught a Coyote. Here's an open field behind the Mall Movie Theatre. 600 yds. open field behind me, no tractor lane. Groundhog hole was the attractor at this location. In Pa. we must legally set 5' from a land den, so I put sets 6' from hole, on each side. GH hole is between Fox. (If you look close, the farmer spread manure & saw the Fox. I pulled those sets so he could finish manure the next day.) Same set Better view of terrain in open field. Slight change in terrain, swale with GH hole, let's set some traps.
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Re: Let's talk location...
[Re: patrapper1989]
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01/18/18 07:27 PM
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Yes palogan. Approach the pee post from the back side and put a trap on a drag with 10' of chain in the footprints where it was standing when it urinated. They show you where to place the trap. Dont track up the place. Walk away in the same footprints you made. The less disturbance the better.
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