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Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124677
01/14/18 01:09 PM
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As far as Lynx, in northern MN where I have crossed their trails on many occasions they have little to do with any sort of large timber structure. Brush, bunnies, and grouse are the common attractant I see and those relate best to new growth. Mousing in dirty new clear cuts before the snow gets deep is a big pull for both Lynx and Bobs.

In all my shooting from the Canadian border to Mexico in the west an honest "big" coyote was right where Jurrasic put it, around 37lbs. Very few ever topped 40 on a scale, nor do I think I shot and left any in the field that topped 40. Food source and all variables considered if your finding "coyotes" over 50lbs or nearly double what I consider average ( 30lbs ) you have crosses.
Then again, who am I but boots on the ground.

Osky


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Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124690
01/14/18 01:24 PM
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I certainly hope that Canada Lynx will be delisted. I also thank God that the reintroduction of these critters by a jackarse professor into the Adirondacks was a total failure. Trapping regulations have been needlessly and adversely affected because of these stupid federal regulations. I saw the dumb cage method for fisher that was being advocated by the Maine Department.Hopefully trappers may harvest fisher and marten in the traditional methods.

As for the Algonquin wolf I saw these animals in Canada 60 years ago and I still believe there is little difference between them and our Eastern Coyotes.I do believe that there is wolf blood in these animals and that they were correctly named by the old timers as "Brush Wolves". Big difference from gray wolves or timber wolves.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Osky] #6124760
01/14/18 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Osky
As far as Lynx, in northern MN where I have crossed their trails on many occasions they have little to do with any sort of large timber structure. Brush, bunnies, and grouse are the common attractant I see and those relate best to new growth. Mousing in dirty new clear cuts before the snow gets deep is a big pull for both Lynx and Bobs.

In all my shooting from the Canadian border to Mexico in the west an honest "big" coyote was right where Jurrasic put it, around 37lbs. Very few ever topped 40 on a scale, nor do I think I shot and left any in the field that topped 40. Food source and all variables considered if your finding "coyotes" over 50lbs or nearly double what I consider average ( 30lbs ) you have crosses.
Then again, who am I but boots on the ground.

Osky




This photo shows a couple NJ coyotes. Not particularly impressive until you figure in that I am a tall, fat man (6'4" and 260 lbs) and the hound weighs 65 pounds.

My experience is not extensive, but I've trapped quite a few coyotes in Interior Alaska over the past 50 years. In all that time, I've never caught an Alaska coyote that weighed more than 26 lbs. These two NJ 'yotes weighed in the mid-40's as I recall (feb 2017)

Where I trap in northern NJ at this particular point in time, the largest coyote I've caught weighed 57 lbs! The array of color variations here is astounding. You do not need to be a university trained taxonomist or a DNA analyst to realize that there is a LOT of cross-breeding going on.

Pete

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124782
01/14/18 02:45 PM
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Edsurveyor I don't trap that far south
I live between the 2 big rivers and usually head west then north. I did not catch yotes in the 80s and I wish it was that way now. I like fox and the yotes have changed how I trap now. That being said I do target them this time of year and try to not catch fox but that is a hard thing to do. My only goals this year are to improve my fox numbers and catch a jet black yote around my house. So far I've done neither.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Pete in Frbks] #6124796
01/14/18 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pete in Frbks




This photo shows a couple NJ coyotes. Not particularly impressive until you figure in that I am a tall, fat man (6'4" and 260 lbs) and the hound weighs 65 pounds.

My experience is not extensive, but I've trapped quite a few coyotes in Interior Alaska over the past 50 years. In all that time, I've never caught an Alaska coyote that weighed more than 26 lbs. These two NJ 'yotes weighed in the mid-40's as I recall (feb 2017)

Where I trap in northern NJ at this particular point in time, the largest coyote I've caught weighed 57 lbs! The array of color variations here is astounding. You do not need to be a university trained taxonomist or a DNA analyst to realize that there is a LOT of cross-breeding going on.

Pete



WOW !! U G L Y !!! The coyotes are much either !

Good looking dog though !


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Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124799
01/14/18 02:59 PM
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There's coyotes around Dicks Hill now.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124808
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Reading that artical, i'm like someone said before..Doesn't sound good for now as far as getting regs relaxed.

The trappers need to put the pressure on and then maybe there's a chance of being able to actually trap like a person should.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124813
01/14/18 03:09 PM
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It wasn't that long ago we narrowly defeated a ban on baiting and trapping bear. The powers that be in this state seem to be keenly aware of how slim a margin we have with the anti crowd. I think that's what drives them.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124821
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I agree Posco, we had a fund raiser here when that went down.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124822
01/14/18 03:13 PM
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Hippie I believe they are everywhere in the state. Do you trap Dick's hill area? If I come south I don't want to step on anybody's toes that might be trapping that area. I try to trap private property with exclusive trapping rights. I just try to avoid any problems with hunters and other trappers. I will pull traps if there is someone else trapping the property.
God bless and stay safe

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124827
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No, i don't trap that side of the mountain but a long time friend traps over there.

He lived in Wila but now lives between there and sugar valley.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: hippie] #6124828
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Originally Posted By: hippie
I agree Posco, we had a fund raiser here when that went down.


That help is most appreciated. Most of the anti funding came from out of state. They'll try again another day.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: hippie] #6124849
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Originally Posted By: hippie
No, i don't trap that side of the mountain but a long time friend traps over there.

He lived in Wila but now lives between there and sugar valley.



Might be called sugar run now that i think about it.
The road out past the old creamery at Millerstown.

Anyhow, he traps around there, not very hard and ctaches a couple every year.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124863
01/14/18 03:32 PM
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Pete, I've caught wolves that aren't that big!

Back to the lynx, the Service will be accepting comments on the delisting proposal. That is where there's opportunity for trappers and others to participate, although it's a structured and bureaucratic process, unfortunately. Details are on the USFWS lynx page.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124873
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Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124886
01/14/18 03:44 PM
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Hippie he's just over the hill from me. As the crow flies. When you talk with him ask if he caught 2 yote toes within the last 2 weeks. I'm trying to find out because I caught the rest of that yote. And all the trappers around me are inside staying warm.lol Just curious.

Re: Canada Lynx Could Be Delisted! [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6124895
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I'll do, i see him everyday.
I know he didn't catch any yotes yet, but set some snares out now.
He caught some fox i know of.

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