Hey does anyone have problems with coyotes stretching out the 385lb breakaway’s on snares?

I caught my first coyote using this setup and it opened up the BAD and gets to live another day. Hope it was just a fluke, but has me worried since it was the first catch using them.

I use 285lb. and never had a problem, not saying it won't happen.

Was it a 350 or a 285 lb. Never heard of a 385 lb. Also, are you sure it was a coyote?

Yes I’m sure it was a coyote, clearly see the tracks in the snow.

Here’s a pic of the package they came in and a few of them under it.



Before these I bought S hooks from the hardware store which were much thicker, just barely squeezing through the cam lock hole. The thing I didn’t like was that they were so tight that sometimes they’d kinda kink and I couldn’t get a nice loop. So I bought these 385lb BADs and they’re super thin. But I figured this is what they are, so.

I'de get a different brand in that 285lb range. Mine came from Sullivan, and the only critter that opens one is a deer with it's leg.

I have used a variety of the 285 lbs breakaways and have not lost a single critter due to a failure. On all the one I have used they all came with the cable end crimped shut. Maybe that is the problem?

and even at that sometimes the smaller deer I've got to cut free.

Wrap them coyotes up and they wont be opening up any B.A.Ds...

I’m hoping the coyote just got lucky and it’s not something that’ll keep happening. You would think 385lb BAD would be stronger compared to a 285lb and brands wouldn’t matter.?

I crimped the BAD with a pair of pliers and had them just like HFT’s pic. I guess we’ll see if it keeps happening or it was just bad luck!

And our coyotes aren’t big compared to some places. The coyotes I catch are around 30lbs. The heaviest I caught is 37lbs 14oz.

Indeed, I have let a few deer go myself .

I would hazard a guess the 285 are rated dead pull, as opposed to what you are using.

Are you required by law to use a BAD?

One thing to consider is how you closed the BAD. Not saying you did but With the S BADs you don’t want to short side it when you close them. If that was done then I could easily see the BAD being compromised at a far lower weight. JMO

No, I just find it makes the lock sit nice on the cable and doesn’t kink the loop.



I understand what you’re saying, but every one I closed always closed evenly from the middle.

If these continue to fail me then I’ll just switch back to the fat S hooks from the hardware store. I figured these 385lb BADs were meant for snares, and would work better. The snare and the build is better, but if they don’t hold a coyote then they’re garbage to me.
I’m leaning to it being a fluke since these are senneker BADs and I’m using the senneker system so it should be good. We’ll see.

I use a BAD on my camloks to orient the cable right too, not because I'm required to. I don't like putting the cable through the hole with a 90 degree bend with a kill spring on it.

Yup exactly Les!

With choke spring I use 180 bad, 385 a deer might not break it, they don't always break 180
Some bad don't work at what they are rated at

I am pretty sure Marty Senneker knows what he is selling etc..Might be best to send him an email or give phone call to get his take on it.He catches 1000's of coyotes and I bet he will have your answer for you.

Absolutely! I know he’s the best when it comes to snaring coyotes. Has me a bit nervous when I’m 0 for 1. But I’m sure it was a fluke.

That is shocking a coyote broke it.