When will the 1/9 results be posted.

Very good question

right now

Results are on their web page, I don't know how to do links or I would

Go here to download or see:

FHA

FHA Auction Results

Glad I sold my rats to groney.

Looks like castor Is In demand.

Yeah, that castor average should have added about $10 per beaver to what the hatter market paid for the pelts.

Thanks. IMO. Limited beaver harvest equals increased castor price. We are at a point where castor, tail, and meat for bait making is worth as much or more than the pelt.
Question for raccoon it says “fresh”. This means goods just received?

That's what It means.

Hey how many million are they sitting on? Groney is making a first time ever run thru Northern NY. next week. Thanks I’m going to check it out.

It looks like the easy money was in weasels.

How do those prices compare to a year ago.

It appears Taxidermy items are up a little, fur items are about the same as last year, and a few items didn't even have any interest and did not sell for the asking levels, like rats and otter. This sale is not a good indicator and the march sale in Finland will be better. Keep your Polar Bears in the freezer, the market for them stinks.

not sure which they considered top lot on coon but 2 of my lots brought the same money.

oh yeah , these were not fresh. i had fur from the last 2 years up there.



RACCOON
LOT# DESCRIPTION STOCK # QTY PRICE EXTENDED
9001 4X-3X SELECT A-B 9309003 3 $19.50 $58.50
9002 4X-3X SELECT A-B 9309004 2 $19.50 $39.00
9003 4X-3X SELECT C-D 9309001 4 $19.00 $76.00
9004 4X-3X SELECT C-D 9309002 2 $19.00 $38.00
9005 4X-3X I A-B 9309007 4 $13.00 $52.00
9007 4X-3X I C-D 9309005 3 $11.50 $34.50
9009 4X-3X I D 9209080 1 $10.00 $10.00
9216 1X I-II D 8109059 1 Unsold to be re-offered
9350 3X-2X REG II 8509066 1 Unsold to be re-offered
9354 3X-2X REG II 9209127 3 Unsold to be re-offered
9362 3X-2X III-IV 9209128 1 Unsold to be re-offered

Average: $16.21 Sold: 19 Unsold: 6 SubTotal $308.00

I'm glad their telling us folks are still buying fur coats or we would be screw.

Last jan sale coyotes were $56 for western and $25 for eastern averages.

Jim

Fresh must be a the only thing they sell because I have never seen where they are selling stale goods. LOL

Good to see the very small price difference on color on those coons that sold. It would be nice to have better prices but it sure seems that size and grade are the big drivers on those that were sold there and not color. A $3 dollar drop from good to poor color on $18 coons is acceptable to me. Now we wait to see what happens in the future auctions. It would be nice to see what the prices were for the very limited rats that sold. What were the better going for compared to average or ordinary. There may not have been enough sales to even make quotes but that just adds to the unknown that much longer and not only for fur shippers but those taking pelts to local auctions and or buyers.

Bryce

What does it mean when it says the averages are "1st section pelts"

1st section pelts are the better goods - 1s, 2s and slights.

Section III goods - damages, low grades, slippers - are not included in the sale average.

$10 avg per beaver for the castor is about right on BP.I always count my castors and divide it by the total price,and $10 avg per all in is what I got.

It appears the demand for heavy western coyote has spilled over to the better Eastern grades, at least on this sale. With just over 50% clearance it is pretty clear which half they let go, but the the advancement over last year on the Eastern section is good news. Now let's see how it holds up with a significantly larger offering at NAFA.

had some coyotes up there from last year that sold, Did better then what I expected. Not so worried now to send them this year.

How do your MN coyote grade at FHA?

And F H said all summer that the coon market was stronger......yep, sure looks like it.

I'll continue to trust reports from reputable souces.

12.50 avg for coon is not good?

No that's a terrible average.

I seen guys posting on here selling coon for $9.12 is a lot better than 9.

Way to haggle!

Look at It this way.

They only sold 35% and normally they are selling the better goods. So If better goods sold at a $12.00 average that's not good.

But since FHA didn't post the different grades and those prices we don't know for sure.
It's tough to make any money on $12.00 coon.

The answers will be in the catalogs in a few days.

Checking the averages at FHA for the last 4-5 years, the January auction results show that castor is increasing by exactly $5 a pound for that time period in January. Bad thing is the overall average for beaver skins is still going down.

Is $12.05 good for eastern beaver?

Yes.Better than 9,Dont forget to add 10 for the castor.

No It Isn't.

I'm doubting you can take $10.00 worth of castor off one beaver. Probably a third of those beaver are going to have shells and It takes a lot of shells to get you $10.00. All beaver aren't created equal.
Boco I think your living some kind of daze.LOL

I doubt boco is off by much on that figure Beav. If you set mostly for adults and have a decent run, I averaged about 8 bucks per beaver in Castor a couple years back and prices are higher now. Some beaver certainly have less than ten bucks in castor but more than a few have quite a bit more than that.

I heard Stetson pays $13 for frost scraped beaver.

Beav,get with the program,we are talking avg here,fur as well as castor,the castor I sold last fall to a buyer here in Ont.netted me $1200 cdn.I had 120 castors,barkstones right down to shells.Do the math,beav that's $10 avg per.

That's $8 in real money.

Dirt,I think I already told you my avg is always quite a bit higher than the auction avg,due in part no doubt to the handling of some of the junk that comes in to the auctions.

You tell me a lot of things. I'm sure you do average better than $12. But your average is still going to be bad, because the international fur market for beaver is worse than the coon market.

I like coon fur and would trap some if there were any here,alas,I am stuck with beaver and marten so have to make do.

I expect to average $10 on castor this year. Average about 5-6 beaver to the lb on our river beaver.

Same here on spring beaver.
Hard to want to skin them when the castor has more value then the skins lol

Boco all the castor you show in that picture are nice plump castors. I buy castor from all over the U.S and you never see castor that runs that plump as an average. There is always some real nice castor in every lot but what I buy has a lot more seconds than first. I never buy a batch of castor that doesn't have some shells in the batch or I will say I hardly ever buy a batch that is all #1 castor. Sometimes you get a real nice batch with all # 1 castor. In my area we never see many good full castor sacks. I would say that the castor I bought last year averaged closer to 6.50 or 7.00 per beaver. The castor out of my own trapped beaver probably averaged close to 6.00 per beaver. Even some of our 60 pound beaver have very poor flat sacks in the things. Most all northern beaver have sacks that are full because they stay under ice. I should start seeing some nice sacks here this year, because our beaver have already been under ice for close to a month and it will be a few more weeks before we get any open water to catch beaver again.
If I remember right, Beaver peeler had some of the best castor I bought last year. He had a large percentage of # 1 sacks.

Beaver castor is badly handled in many cases, going to sell this stuff today will share my prices when I get back tonight.
Jim

How exactl do they want castor prepped for sale ? I have always used mine for my own use. Dry for few days then freeze, freeze instantly, or dry longer? Thanks

Anyone have any Ohio yotes on this sale?

Don,those are frozen in that pic,they are a straight run of castor from all 120 beavers caught.Shells and seconds included.Like was said,lots of castor mishandled,(just like the pelts).I don't overdry my castor before freezing,because it needs to dry a bit after freezing,before marketing or it will be a sloppy mess.

My average gets helped out a lot by individual beavers having a half to 3/4 lb of castor. I catch quite a few of these on the river in mid winter. The other thing is I focus my beaver trapping on sets that multiple beaver are using to mark territory. Those beaver tend to have bigger castors.

Beav, You are correct for fall beaver, but changing light conditions that trigger melatonin production (a hormone secreted by the pineal gland) in the skin and start the priming process also trigger a beaver to begin producing castoreum, and by spring the older beaver castor glands can be quite plump, as I'm sure you've observed. After the vernal equinox (mid-march melatonin production falls off and castors become flat again. Castors are at the heaviest between Christmas and mid March with some exceptions in the far north and south. I wonder if both fur and castor is affected by a cloudy overcast (or sunny) fall? Much like a mink or fox rancher darkens a shed to make the fur better.

Spring beaver here, my avg over the years has been 10 dried castor to the pound. These beaver are not particularly large and I tend to accumulate them in the freezer for several years before I sell so they tend to be freeze - dried as much as anything else.

What? LOL

I did not know this.

Huh?

My fullest castors are from beaver caught just before breeding season starts. Breeding season has already commenced here in western Oregon.

Thanks for that information. Very interesting.

This is what Gord Stickles was paying today for dried castor
#1 $68.10 US or $85.00 CDN
#2 $60.16 US or $75.00 CDN
#3 $52.14 US or $65.00 CDN

That's a pretty good price Jim.

Wish we had a buyer paying that on the south side of the border.

I sell to Gord.

...I don't try to ship over the border anymore. Learned my lesson.

What does Gord do with the castor?

The whole castor business is somewhat secretive, as probably it needs to be. But I believe Gord is one of the big boys and deals directly with international buyers. I know that FHA and Gord don't care much for each other. No doubt due to each competing for the scarce resource.